High heart rate

[shanelomax]

Hi just recently I have been have high heart rate this only last for minutes then goes back down, heart r.ate is in a range of 130-150 then goes back down to 70-80. My resting heart rate has also gone up recently from low 60s to high 70s . Has anybody experienced this and should I be concerned ? Its been 2 years since my ablation

[CDreamer]

It is worth noting and mentioning to your doctor next time you see them and if you can produce the evidence from a home monitor, that helps but if it settles within a few minutes I personally wouldn’t be concerned as our thoughts alone can elevate HR and BP. If it starts to happen very frequently or lasts for more than a few minutes then I would be more concerned and think about going to A&E.

I assume you mean that this is your resting HR?

[shanelomax in reply to CDreamer]

Thanks for the advice

[Buffafly]

Think about your general health - I have recently had the cold from hell which turned to a string of infections and asthma exacerbation and my resting HR went up as well as having random runs of tachycardia which sent my average up too. Amazingly no AF 😀

[jeanjeannie50]

Hi Shane

It's a known fact that even people without AF can have very short runs of a high heart rate lasting a minute or so.

[shanelomax in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Thanks for the reply

[mav7]

You really need an ECG or have you checked with a Kardia or Apple Watch ?

Regardless, best to see your GP or cardiologist/EP.

[shanelomax in reply to mav7]

I have done one on my watch when the episodes are happening and they are inconclusive due to the high heart rate , I have booked an appointmentwith the Cardiologist in November.

[Buzby62 in reply to shanelomax]

Hi, the determination may be inconclusive due to the higher rate but the trace should be accurate and you should be able to look at the trace to see if the beats are fast and regular or fast and irregular. Show your doctor the traces and ignore the watch’s determination of it. Hope this helps

Best wishes

PS, just read your latest reply and realised it’s an old post, best of luck with the ablation in January.

[Paulbounce]

Hi Shane.

I'm with you on this one. I bought a Finger Pulse Oximeter from Boots a few weeks ago. It always starts off at about 125bpm when I turn it on and drops to 75 - 80ish after a minute or two.

It makes you wonder how reliable these devices are? A medic once told me I would be better off spending the money on a decent whiskey and 20 fags rather than monitors!

The Kardia comes out as the best one to use on the forum.

Paul

[pusillanimous in reply to Paulbounce]

I'm a bit of a gadget queen my kitchen is full of them! Fortunately ,Kardias seem to be hard to obtain in South Africa, which for me is a blessing in disguise, because that is one less for my collection to cause me anxiety and to make the manufacturers rich !

[Sue6666 in reply to Paulbounce]

I'm all for the whisky treatment! 😄

[Paulbounce in reply to Sue6666]

Works wonders Sue heheh

[Sue6666 in reply to Paulbounce]

If you love whisky and not tried it before try Teelings - it's amazing!!

[Paulbounce in reply to Sue6666]

Sounds nice but I'm to sure Sue. Too much whisky and Afib are sworn enemies!

Paul

[Sue6666 in reply to Paulbounce]

I only have a tot here and there 😆 and yes I have to choose my times to have it xx

[Still_Breathing]

If you have already had an ablation then you already know the answer ........ go see your doctor

[Ppiman]

If you are concerned, there is a home ECG device that has the ability - unique for a home ECG, I think - to measure for up to 72 hours and produce an ECG trace and excellent results summary, arranged by arrhythmia or whatever it finds, which can be shown to your doctor. The version I have, the original, does need a laptop, but not, I think, the newer model. It's made by a Chinese company called Wellue. I found mine (the 24-hour version and the handheld one) to be very useful. Both use AI to determine the results of what is found but the results need an expert eye as AI can be fooled.

Steve

[ozziebob in reply to Ppiman]

Steve,

When recommending the main Wellue 24/72 hour ecg monitors it is worth reminding potential customers that they need the ownership of a laptop to utilise/investigate the AI results most effectively/as intended.

[Ppiman in reply to ozziebob]

That’s a very good point, Bob. I always forget not everyone has a laptop. I’ve edited the post above.

Did you ever get round to buying the latest model? I was wondering if it worked well with a mobile phone or tablet?

Steve

[ozziebob in reply to Ppiman]

No, I decided that I needed a laptop to get the info the Wellue is designed to produce. Doh! 🤔

With the help of another Forum member I did see a full Report from the new Wellue 72 hour device, and the limited Report produced by the App alone, and decided the App alone Report wasn't worth the full price of the device.

I concluded these devices are evolving and perhaps what I need will appear on the market before too long. Interesting in this regard is that Kardia now have a portable 12 lead ecg device, but it's restricted to use by medical professionals, which seems appropriate.

alivecor.com/products/kardi....

[Ppiman in reply to ozziebob]

Hi Bob. You do need a laptop, it's true. I don't know what extra development there might be in this field as it's a fairly small-ish area for companies to want to invest in. I would say improvements in AI analysis might likely be what will come. I suspect that the Wellue 24 / 48 / 72 hour devices do all that a single lead can and should do, and that a single lead ECG is all a home user truly needs.

I don't use mine so much these days as I seem to have settled into a more comfortable feeling that I have a pretty good idea what is happening. If I wonder what is going on, I first use first my Apple Watch, then the Contec PM20 to find out whether it is AF or a run of ectopics.

The strengths of the Wellue are it's ability to run for such a long time and catch everything that is happening. It]s not without weaknesses though, at least my one. I find, for example, too much electrical noise on the graph from, I guess, body movement (no surprise, really), and then there's the issue of it picking up VT when it is an atrial arrhythmia. This latter is because of my LBBB, though, it seems,, but the AI is obviously not perfect.

Overall, though, I think it's a very useful device and I would recommend anyone with an arrhythmia problem to get one since what it does, it does well enough, and is unique for home use.

Steve

[ozziebob in reply to Ppiman]

There are already private medical companies that provide stick-on electrode devices for multi-lead multi-day ecgs with their own AI, usually working at the request of private cardiologists and EPs and particular Health Groups. They are much better than Wellue, but at the moment they are not available to be bought by patients like me, and the cost of paying £400 for every ecg is beyond my means, and yours too I imagine.

And I don't really see why an App alone wouldn't eventually be written for a device that is able to produce a full Report as Wellue and a laptop currently do.

[Ppiman in reply to ozziebob]

Well, yes - I take your point, for sure, but the Wellue is inexpensive and available to hand as needed and when needed. The problem with the professional kit is it's expensive to hire privately, is only available on prescription and can only be used for the days it is provided. There's really no comparison between the two. In terms of the AI, I have no idea about the differences but I would expect, as you say, the AI of the prescription kit to be superior (although, I suspect, not in any way useful to an individual given the scenarios in which the Wellue would be used).

Steve

[ozziebob in reply to Ppiman]

Multi lead is better than single lead. Have a look at Cardioscan ...

uk.cardioscan.co/technology...

On the website you can get sample reports sent to you. But, it's true, I can't buy one. And I wouldn't be able to interpret the results anyway. Bummer.

So I'm still in need of a nighttime ecg device.

[Ppiman in reply to ozziebob]

I think multi-lead is better for a specialist as it can reveal much more detail, but I gather that a single lead will reveal all a lay-person could ever need to know.

If I were you, I'd likely get myself a second-hand laptop and buy a Wellue!

Steve

[Banquo]

Hi, For me there's a certain amount of accepting the "new normal" after ablation. A new ectopic that has popped up since my second ablation a year ago is the "superventricular tachycardia," which is like you described, and I have one or two brief episodes per day according to the Holter. Also my resting heart rate has never gone back to pre ablation times, but to read certain studies, a bit higher rest heart rate is not a bad thing for af patients. Maybe the item that has been weirdest for me is how quickly my HR goes up doing any activity and gow high it gets, and then how relatively slowly it goes back down. These things were of great concern to me in the months after ablation! Because it was so different. Good news..the total number of ectopics in a day has gone down, but it has taken a long time, like a year. Some HR stuff has not changed much, I'm just more used to it and don't pathologically check it. I just accept that a short jog i used to do and never get above 130bpm, now i hit 160+ at an even slower running pace. Stress, heat, intense exercise, alcohol, over eating..all good to limit and not stack on top of each other, of course. But, generally, it is accepting of the new normal, and being grateful AF stays blocked. Worth mentioning..when i originally did the Holter after ablation and had 500 ectopics per day ..my doc wasn't at all concerned and said it wasn't in the concerning range. lol Freaked me out though, ha...Anyway hope any if that helps.. Good luck!

[Jetcat]

I would try and catch it on ECG to see if it’s fast and regular or fast and irregular.? Have you got a device to monitor your rhythm.?

[Jackiesmith7777]

my husbands ablation stopped working without him knowing as he wasn’t wearing a watch to moniter it and he had a stroke so I’d get it checked to be in the safe side

[shanelomax]

Seen Cardiologist another ablation booked for 14th January I have both signs of Af and Atrial flutter in different chambers of my heart both will hopefully be sorted ! After my first ablation I went back to work after a week that was not the best idea as I had further2 weeks off as I was not ready .