HiGuys it was always during the night normally after a couple of drinks fleckenide did the trick poping back in at 11-30am two days later!
Been in perm AF for two years now so dont have to worry although did have a pain in middle of chest at the weekend which could have been caused by large glass of red went to hosp everything normal apart from heart rate up BP up and palpys pain was mainly when breathing deeply anyone else get this? Cheers Robert
Hi Robert
Red wine is a well known trigger for heart arrhythmias because of the sulphite (preservative) it contains.
Jean
Thought it might be related should stick to AF beer for us AF people!
I can sometimes get away with a small glass at Christmas but any more and I'm soon sorry.
Almost can't believe it but as a moderate but committed drinker since my teens, I'm currently 8 weeks without a drop, trying not to jeopardise the benefits of recent ablation. Not sure if I can / should / want to keep this going. Have tried out low alcohol beer (ok) and red wine (not fit for purpose). A friend gave me a nice bottle of proper red for sometime later, maybe I'll have a small celebratory glass when England wins the Euros.
Nearly all my AF occurrences were either just at the end of a meal in the evening or a little before finishing, most of them included red wine which has made me very wary. I still drink it but when I take the first sip if it has a certain taste I pass it to hubby to drink and have water instead. Some red wines seem fine but I restrict myself to usually one glass or occasionally two but not often. I don't experience any chest pain though, just the usual discomfort felt mainly in my stomach area which is how I know I'm heading for AF. In the last couple of weeks though I've been snoozing mid day on the sofa and woken up with AF which isn't alcohol or anything else related, bit odd for me. Lasted 2-3 hours and then thankfully stopped. I don't have any sort of medication for it so just ride it out.
I'm guessing that you're not an OAP like most of us, who have to take anticoagulants to prevent the occurrence of a stroke? I can't sleep on my left side or it can trigger an AF attack.
Jean
I'm, er, 73 lol. I did try to get some help but was referred to a specialised cardiac unit at a hospital, waited and waited for an appointment and was finally telephoned by the consultant who chatted to me for some while. On the strength of what I told him he decided I had AF, that I needed an ablation and should take anticoagulants. I was a bit wary but agreed to the ablation on the grounds that the waiting list was nearly 2 years so I'd have time to change my mind. I have a Kardia, he asked me to send some readings, I did, all those marked "possible AF". After months he sent an outcome letter saying he had seen me in clinic, he hadn't, I had refused blood thinners (not true I merely questioned them as my mother died from a stroke, she was on warfarin and had a colossal bleed) and that he had made a follow up appt. He didn't. A few months later he sent a second outcome letter saying again he'd seen me in clinic, nope, he hadn't, he'd looked at the Kardia readings. He said they didn't show AF so I wouldn't need an ablation as I didn't have AF. Never heard from him again, never saw him at all. Now strangely, on my medical record it says I have both Paroxysmal AF and Permanent AF? I'll just live with it, I read it doesn't kill you lol.
Oh and by the way, you don't have to take anti-coagulants you have chosen to. They scare me to be honest, I'd take a whole lot of convincing I should. I paid to have an Echocardiogram taken which showed there wasn't any structural damage in my heart. Good enough for me for now.
I used to work in a nursing home and after seeing people who had suffered the effects of a stroke, well believe you me I'll swallow any pill to prevent that. Many can't speak, eat (fed through a tube in their stomach) can't move at all and are doubly incontinent. It's like a living death. They look out on the world with confused eyes. Someone I've met went blind after a stroke.
No, I'll take the pills willingly and certainly it is our choice. I'm 73 too.
Good morning Robertmacintyre
Thanks for your post on the Atrial Fibrillation support forum.
Hopefully a member of the group will be able to advise you about the deep breathing, if not please seek a Medical professionals advice.
Kind regards
SamAdmin
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