2 1/2 years ago I had 2 root canals done. Within 3 days I was in emergency room with A-Fib. No one, including me, connected the A-Fib to the root canals. Prior to the root canals, I had never had Afib.
I suffered so terribly for the 2 1/2 years. The A-F morphed into Supra Ventricular Tachycardia. That morphed into Sick Sinus Syndrome. And, I still had the A-Fib.
I was at the stage where the Electrophysiologist said I need a Pace Maker. Also had been recommending an Ablation, which I refused to have.
Prior to that, another dentist told me to watch the documentary, on Netflix, titled "Root Cause". I did not watch it for almost a year. When I did, it all made sense and I, basically saw myself on that documentary.
Apparently, the Endodontics Industry went wild and threatened Netflix with all kinds of lawsuits so Netflix had to remove it from their line up.
2 months ago, I found a dentist that specializes in root canal removal. He is a Holistic Dentist, but not fanatical. I had him take them out and it was a quick ( one hour) thing, no pain during or after. A little bit sensitive after, but no pain.
Here's the Good News, my heart started settling down. No more emergency room visits. No Afib attacks.. had a few flutters now and then, Energy started coming back, and as days went by, everything seemed to be normalizing in my body. Last week, I had a 48 hour monitor test. During those 2 days, I had many stressful events, plus the very hot weather. Usually, I would have been back in the ER. Nothing happened. No afib, whatsoever.
The Monitor test came back perfectly Normal!! At this point, just about 2 months from the dental surgery, I feel like my old self again. Energetic, no Afib, flutters, nothing. No fears now, and able to look forward, with God's help, to never have afib again.
Now, I know there is always the possibility it will come back and everyone is different, but I truly feel that it is something worth investigating. Since Netflix does not have the documentary anymore, UTube does. It costs $3.99 US, to see on UTube.
I'm only putting this out there because of my personal experiences. I never had Afib before those root canals. After the root canals, my life became hell.. Just be aware, that most dentists will try to talk you out of having root canals removed and most dentists do not have the skills needed to do an absolute correct job of removing them. The documentary tells in detail what needs to be done.
I'm just grateful, and I hope this may help others. Not trying to sell it. Just know how horrible all Afib, SVT, Sick Sinus Syndrome is. It's never ending and mysterious. Oh yes, Seems root canals are linked to the Vagus Nerve, which can affect your whole body and mysteriously, cause other health issues too.
Very Best Wishes for all my fellow sufferers. May this information be of help to you all.
Not watched the film but it is well known that dental infection is very bad for the heart. Anybody with any heart issues should take great care to maintain good dental hygene at all times. Remember that if your teeth ever bleed then you have gum disease. Don't kid yourself it is your anticoagulant doing it.
Since supplementing with Co enzyme Q 10 my gums never bleed. I have recently insisted that my husband start this and his bleeding gums have improved.
Hiya Sadie,
AF is in it's way a big challenge. I personally don't have a problem with what you say. Dentistry is clearly your trigger, mine is food, others maybe extreme exercise, others maybe beverages ( hot or cold, alcoholic or non alcoholic), and it just goes on and on .
My daughter had two pregnancies, in both cases each tripped her into AF! Once she stopped breeding, no more AF. In fact today she practices Thai Kick Boxing. No AF!
My belief is that it's not so much a heart issue but a vagal nerve issue.
John
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Carneuny, I'm 76 years old. Ive had tons of dentistry most of my life. Dentistry, in and of itself, is not a trigger for me. As evidenced by the fact that I've never had Afib before the root canal.
Yes. it is definitely a vagus nerve issue, however, it was created by the root canals. The root canals were done because my original bridge was old and just broke off at the gum line. Just fell off with no notice, weird pain, or cracking noises, etc. Just fell off very gently. To be able to attach another, new, bridge, posts needed to be installed. Otherwise, there was no way to attach a new bridge.
Dentist didn't know what he was doing. He made a mess out of them, creating a situation that was manufacturing toxins via necrotic tissue, infections, and bone damage.
Little did I or anyone else know that this is not an unusual outcome of many root canals.
The only evidence was the onset of heart issues, and fibromyalgia. Plus depression, etc.
Prior to the root canal, I had no Afib, pain, issues, gum disease, caries, infections, etc. The root canals created the heart issue. Verified by the fact that I blacked out in his chair. He and his assistant revived me and sent me home. I had no clue what was happening to me, as I had never had Afib, so nothing to give me clues. I was in bed for 3 days. It was so severe, I finally went to the emergency room. I was diagnosed with major Afib and they did everything possible to treat me and sent me home with many meds which most of us on this blog are familiar with.
So, now, for the first time in 2 1/2 years, I am out of Afib, SVT, Sick Sinus Syndrome, and no longer having the heart stoppage, which make for blackouts. The reason the EP wanted to give me a pace maker. Which he no longer advises and doesn't feel it's necessary.
From what I understand, one does not need to have botched root canals. Afib can be created by a root canal that has been installed without the procedure of first removing necrotic tissue and unknown infections which do not show up on many Xray machines.
Im happy to know your daughter only had Afib during pregnancy and it didn't continue on. I'm thinking that maybe some pressures were put on her vagus nerve, (there are 12, including the main one).
So, thanks for your post and Best Regards,
Sadie
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Hi Sadie,
Wow ! What a journey.
I have to say, on reflection, and I'm now 75 ( was 65 when AF mugged me) my whole life as been one of extensive dental work and I now have very few of my original teeth left. I have lurched from one dental drama to another.
The other thing too, I have always said I have led a healthy lifestyle. Again, on reflection, this is not strictly true .... true that I have never had anything other than outpatients treatment and tests and xrays, but nothing surgically invasive until 2015 when I had a partial knee replacement.
However, what has dogged me since about the age of 32 ish, has been an increase in a variety of digestive issues, starting with a suspect gall bladder, even in my mid thirties I was being introduced to diets, not for weight loss but to assist my digestive system. Back in those days I had to cut out lettuce, and to a lesser degree tomatoes.
Digestive issues have been my strange bedfellow right through my life until AF hit, so its now no wonder diet/food planning preoccupies my life to keep the AF at bay ..... vagal nerve.
I have also found out that genetics has played a part and strokes and AF have run in the paternal side of my family for two generations.
I now wonder how my daughter will be in her mid 60's
I have been on this forum now for some 9 and half years and based on posts that I have read, in huge numbers, AF doesn't always beget AF - there are shedloads of factors which come into it, from genetics to diet and lifestyle including marathon running and cycling and to a speedy and precise diagnosis.
My first bonus was my AF was detected and treatment started in 9 hours from feeling unwell with some sort of killer flu.
The trick is to get the condition identified accurately to start with. Then look for cause and effect and focusing on the cause. Then go to work on the cause. In my case it was food and symptoms of a dodgy digestive system, i.e. vagal nerve.
However, if you ignore it, or leave it, or neglect it then there is a pretty good chance AF will beget AF.
I find digestion affects my heart now whereas I had good digestion up to about five years ago. Nearly all my afib attacks have come on after eating and I can no longer eat a lot at one time. Living in France this is sad as large meals that go on a long time are part of the culture! I also find walking about after a meal uncomfortable.
This does not surprise me as I have a friend who was consistently feeling unwell...he had heard that amalgam fillings could effect your health as they deteriorate and leach with your mouth saliva. So he went and got ALL his amalgam fillings removed and redone using a different product. This was not cheap...but he is feeling a lot better after his new procedure.
Thank goodness I refused the root canal my dentist suggested not long ago. Given that the xrays showed no cavity and no infection at all it seemed a silly suggestion to me just to get rid of the pain the cause of which which was flummoxing her. She filed the tooth down a bit. I did a bit of research with the much maligned Dr Google and came up with inflammation of the periodontal ligament as a possible cause. On my next visit ( for the extraction I said I preferred to a root canal given this was a tiny mishaped tooth not visible when smiling) the pain had gone. I asked if it could have been the ligament and she said yes and of course taking the pressure off the tooth with the filing would have helped. "Bruised /SprainedTooth syndrome is visible on xrays but possible to miss if not looked for. I feel that suggesting a root canal was totally inappropriate and will be looking for another dentist. Given my susceptibility to tendon and other connective tissue problems since being poisoned by Cipro and the fact that sometimes ALL my teeth hurt when going through a floxing relapse ( a not uncommon symptom reported in the floxie community) the periodontal ligament inflammation seems logical . Needless to say I did not have the extraction either. Vive Google!
Sooo happy you were suspect of what you had been advised to do, and followed your own instincts. Especially glad for you that you dodged a bullet or even maybe a missile!!
The whole root canal boondoggle is so scary and causes so much damage to people.. It causes so many mysterious illnesses that Drs. cannot find a diagnoses for. So they end up trying to treat the symptoms and not the cause. I do not blame them, they can only do what is available to them.
Myself, I have unused bags full of all kinds of different life saving drugs from my multitudes of emergency room visits, particularly in the year 2018. One of my worst times, I was in ER 3 times in 11 days. Most of the rest of time I was bedridden because the Afib was so severe. I was totally sick, unable to care for myself, was probably heading for a care facility. Always foggy brained, etc. Consequences of blood not getting to organs or brain, as well as all the crazy meds. Especially Diltizem. Gave me loss of memory. Big time. had to quit taking that right away.
Anyway, enough of my whining about Afib. As everyone on this blog knows all these same issues.
So, thank you for your post. And wishing you complete health and no afib!
Interesting Sadie, I have had 5 root fillings. You say you have had them taken out by a good dentist, can I ask what replaced the filling as I wasn't aware you could just cap it and leave it empty? I presume you are in the US, I am in the UK so I guess no point asking for the name of your dentist.
What they do is remove the whole root and the ligament (very important to get the ligament out too). Then they clean and sterilize the complete area with Ozone. It must be Ozone because that is the only method that completely kills all bacteria, bone rot, decay, infections, etc. They are careful to make certain that no outside bacterias get in while they are working.
Then the use tiny stitches to close up the whole area and add an ozone soaked pad to remain on the gums for a small period of time to insure no other infectious bacteria enters.
After that, it takes about a week of healing and not eating anything hard or abrasive that could possibly get jammed up into your healing areas. To complete healing it took about 3 weeks, but was never a difficulty.
The answer to your basic question is you have the choice of having a bridge or an implant. Can't put a crown on it because there is nothing to hold a crown in place.
The most important thing about having root canals removed is this: you must find a dentist that specializes in this and does use Ozone. If they do not, do not use them.
I found mine by Googling Holistic Dentistry (as recommended in the Root Cause documentary).
Then I Googled actual user reviews of that dentist. Then I called some of the other ones and spoke with the dental, whomever, answered the phone and asked questions and especially prices. It turned out that the dentist I chose was the least expensive and the most experienced. The others wanted $1800 US per root canal.
My dentist charged me $950 for the 2 root canals and that included many follow up appointments to keep a check on how I was healing. Fabulous Dentist!! So kind, gentle, communicative too.
I do hope this helps you in some way. Please watch the documentary. It explains everything in depth.
My PAF episodes decreased markedly after having an infected tooth that had a root canal filling removed. So I believe what you are saying 100%. I had no symptoms with the tooth though for years previously there had been a slight ache which had disappeared. I developed a red spot on my gum , my dentist did an x-ray and saw the infection which he said could spread to my jawbone if I didn't have it removed. The tooth had a curved root so although dentists in the past had done their best to root fill it, it wasn't possible to do properly. Hence the infection
There are so many unknown illnesses connected to tooth issues. Sadly, the whole root canal issue is not widely accepted by most dentists due to the fact it impacts their business.
So, people suffer, have strange unnameable illness, get diagnosed incorrectly and are put on heavy meds, all for naught. In fact, after getting Afib, I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I no longer have fibromyalgia.
I'm aware that all of my experiences with this sound too good to be true. But, I have no reason to share my experience, other than to maybe help others to possibly get well. Myself, I'm absolutely floored that my Electrophysiologist told me I no longer needed a pace maker!! Particularly, since he was adamant that I had to have it because I was in a high percentage of facing the possibility of Sudden Death. That was scary!
I never had an issue with AFIB until a botched root canal in the spring of 2015. Weeks after the root canal I started feeling out of breath and tired. I could not even run short distances. I saw my GP and he said not to worry, just a case of stress and overdoing it. Then a month later I had a small stroke and that is when the AFIB was discovered. I completely recovered from the stroke - overnight by the way.
Only a small blip on a brain MRI showing the only evidence of a stroke. I was fortunate.
The root canal infection was then cut out of the jawbone and the AFIB went away for almost 3 months. AFIB now occurs 2 times a month and lasts a few hours - it does not affect me as badly as before. But... looks like I am going to be on Xarelto for life.
Question; When they removed the infections and cut out of the jawbone, did they do this also: Removed the root? Remove the ligament?, Did they use Ozone to completely remove ALL infections and then insert an antibiotic then close?
If they skipped these steps, you are likely still having effects from the necrotic tissues and infection that can regenerate themselves and never show up on an X-ray.
I'm certainly not a dentist, however I do know these are critical steps. Especially the Ozone. No other type of removal of bacteria will take care of what's in there.
Try to find out. I'm pretty sure it would not be a big problem to go back and complete these steps.
From what I understood the infection was very nasty.. The endodontist I went to did a horrible job. The infection grew slowly for months and when I went to see a new dentist, he sent me to an Oral Surgeon right away. The Oral Surgeon removed the root, I do not know about the ligament. He then drilled into the jawbone and removed a round core almost to the sinus cavity - also did a lot of scraping to remove infected tissue around that. Then that area was filled with a bone graft and an implant was done later. I do remember a lot was done to make sure all the infection was removed. But thank you for the tip, I will check with their office and see what they say about their process. Before the root canal and the AFIB showed up I never had any health issues (I was 64 when this happened).
Haveafib, I'm so sorry that you've had to endure all that afib has to offer. It should be helpful; for you when you talk to your oral surgeon again, if you would watch that documentary on U Tube. titled "Root Cause". It gives the actual reasoning for everything that happens to our bodies, and for the illnesses that usually happen due to the root canals and treatments.
I was 73 when mine happened. I was hale and hearty and still working long hours at my profession as a Realtor, and enjoying it very much. Plus the income. Now no income for 2 1/2 years, plus all the medical bills and new dental bills. We don't have public medical care here in the states. Costs plenty just to walk into a Drs office, much less go to an emergency room. OK, I'll stop whining now, (smile).
I hope you do find out something about your treatment. Especially if you are still having some afib. I think all 3 of my doctors are totally amazed that my 3 heart issues just disappeared over the last 2 months. Never to return is my hope.
And, Im hoping the same for you. Watch the documentary, please.
My dentist was horrified when I refused a root canal about 20 years ago. I had the tooth removed against his protestation,, I reconed I knew better. I explained Weston Prices work, theorys and experiments with cadavers and little bunny rabbits.
It was something he was quite unaware of,,, he would not have a root canal himself after looking into it but it's very lucritive work!
People tend to think that because something is sold or made or practiced that it has to be good, or at least reasonably safe.
They tend to look at things with a rather simplistic black and white atitude,, the last thing they will do is wide research.
I agree with all you say. I've been through the hell and back. I'm still in shock that my heart conditions - afib, svt, and sick sinus syndrome, are totally gone now. EP said no need for pacemaker now.
I feel the same about the implants. I'm having a new bridge being made. dentist wanted to do implants for the abutments to the bridge. I said no. so he came up with a different plan, without the implants.
Ray, did you see the documentary 20 years ago? Has the Endodontist Industry been able to suppress this, super important, information for all these years? Golly - Now they've forced Netflix to remove it from their offerings!
Happy for you that you had the info and haven't suffered terrible illnesses for the last 20 years!
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