hello, I am new to this board. I have A fib and take Eliquis twice a day I heard there’s some type of book called a fib cure. And it prescribes some type of diet. Does anyone know what the diet is that they talk about in that book?
, when I have an AF attack a l I put a lot of ice on my face and neck in the back of my neck to try to get it under control and then to finally stop. Does anyone else do this?
thanks
Jeanie
Hi Jeanie245.
Sadly there is no 'magic' cure for afib. However, diet is important to help to control it. Plant based diets seem to the best bet. I hope Jean reads the thread as she will be able to help more than I.
Paul
PS - welcome to the forum
I think you might be talking about 'The doctors kitchen' it's a cookbook written by a doctor who claims to have cured his atrial fibrilation with diet, but I don't think he's saying his plan can cure afib, just that it did for him.
Great book and lots of info on beneficial foods and some very tasty recipes, mostly vegetarian.
The AFIB Cure by Dr John Day is probably the one though I haven’t read it myself
Don’t bother! I gave up on it half way through and it’s by Day and Bunch!
You couldn't be more mistaken. It is excellent.
Perhaps you were overweight etc but I have never been and as I now have chronic fatigue the 10,000 steps a day is far more than I could now manage and rarely achieved when I was fit and healthy and walked regularly in the countryside where we live. Great if it has worked for you but as we know, we are all different!
The A-Fib cure is an excellent book - but it’s NOT about diet - although there are some dietary recommendations in it.
I guess you are trying to replicate the divers’ response with the ice, no didn’t work for me although some vast-vagal maneuvres did sometimes help.
The Doctor’s Kitchen is much better for info on which foods are helpful.
A cold drink gulped down can put you both in and out of AF (at different times!) if your Vagus Nerve is sensitive.
I think a few people with PAF can "shock" their system in some way and cause their heart to revert to NSR. It sounds as if your ice trick is doing just that. Mine just eventually returns to NSR and nothing I can do seems to affect it (or at least I wouldn't know as it seems random in the way to starts and stops). I read a study in which the majority of people couldn't find any trigger for their AF, so I guess stopping it would likely be the same.
I think a small minority of people will always be willing to try one of the many "cures" that the internet offers, usually for a fee. Most are harmless so why not try? The book you mention seems quite popular and likely does offer a lot of useful information in a single source. Like the other Internet cures, I don't think it offers anything original but you might find otherwise.
I suspect the changes to the heart that allow the left top chamber (i.e. the left atrium) to develop its muscle shivers, and, from that, any effects on the heart's pumping ability (i.e. the bottom pumping chambers, the ventricles) along with the symptoms that brings, are well beyond simple methods to "cure". They are more likely the long-term result of age, genes and Western lifestyle. Keeping blood pressure and weight down, exercise up and avoiding sleep apnoea seem the only truly important ways forward.
Steve
Ice has never worked for me, but running up and down stairs for a bit has always worked for me. I think everyone has some trick that works in their particular situation. I have only had one outbreak in the past six years however, and that was when my Doc tried taking me off of daily Flecainide. I am now back on it, but only 50mg twice daily, and it seems to be working.
Tried all sorts of things .One that worked for me was going for a walk at a decent pace , you get a sort of this out of world experience when it spontaneously goes back to normal rhythm . Trouble was after a few years the walk went from 5to 15 minutes to over a hour. Found out a couple of swift ones ( pints of lager)when on holiday can do the trick as well !
The Afib Cure is an excellent book. Yes diet is extremely important for us, I would say it is number one wether you are overweight or not. I have been slim and athletic all my life! But if you are deficient in magnesium and pottassium, you are at risk for afib.... Before getting this book and learning about great afib diets on this forum, my heart was racing and frequently afib... Of course there are multiple factors but I would put diet first and then slow nasal diaphragmatic breathing. Whatever you do, always listen to you doctor about the meds.
Hi
Tried a private message but didn't work. May be cause you need to consent to be my friend first.
Perhaps the ice does the same thing as a cardioversion where the shock converts the heart back to normal
or
could you be dehydrated.
Try a cool drink and see if that does the same.
I was diagnosed 'rapid and persistent AF H/Rate" so nothing different would happy
but
I was thankful that a private cardiologist introduced CCB Calcium Channel Blocker and my H/Rate Day dropped 156 to 51 in 2 hours on 1/2 dose. Then twinked
CCB Diltiazem 120mg AM for control H/Rate Day (always 47bpm avg Night)
and
BB Bisoprolol 2.5mg PM for BP control
happy now with BP and H/Rate controlled but I still stop during exertion for 5 seconds. With ECHO showing 2 defects for abnormality in heart no cardioversions, ablasions or anti-arrhymic meds allowed.
cheri JOY. 75. (NZ)
A man who has an interesting take on curing his Afib naturally 
Is there any success story that people had truly cured their afib?
Lecture on curing AFib. by Prash Sanders on Dr John Mandrola's web page.
Afib
Afib
