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I have just had Covid , inspite of 6 boosters. Apart ftom Persistent AF I have Ankylosing Spondilitis . I was put on Lagevrio ( anti viral)

I think it was later than the 5 day’s limit . I did feel really unwell with Covid , still feel exhausted . I have one more day of anti virals but , apart from unexpected nightmares my AF is faster.

Any advice would be welcome.

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jeanjeannie50

My heart rate increased when I had Covid. I think it's quite normal for that to happen. I was in hospital with pneumonia at the time and was given stronger beta blockers, until I started to get better, then my heart gradually calmed and the dose was reduced.

I hope you soon feel better.

Jean

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Autumn_Leaves

Viral illnesses will increase your HR. It’s part of your immune system’s response. Your body has a lot of additional work to do, and the recent hot weather is yet another stressor on the body that will increase your HR. But I can imagine it feels quite awful when you’re in the thick of it. You don’t say what your HR is at the moment, whether it’s little bit higher than usual or it’s worryingly high. If you take BBs it may be a good idea to temporarily increase the dose, but I appreciate that you don’t want to over medicate or risk more side effects. You could also ring 111 to see what they advise.

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mjames1

Covid is the worst. Put me into afib. Don't know your situation, but if your're on anti-arrythmics, ask your ep for a temporary dose increase. Make sure you're hydrated and sugar or not, Sports drinks can help unless you have a sodium/blood pressure issue. Other than that, you may just have to accept the fatigue, because if you fight it and do too much, things can get worse. I had two relapses in 3 weeks and wish I had taken an antiviral but couldn't because I was Flecainide.

Jim

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Silky57 in reply to mjames1

Covid put me into my first and only AFib episode. I’d noticed how much faster my heart was running on very little exertion in the weeks that followed Covid and then, wham, there was the AFib notification on my watch at 167bpm. The positive news is that my heart did settle (albeit with beta blockers to help) and now is as steady as pre-infection. Hopefully Luludean yours will settle to.

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Luludean in reply to Silky57

thank you Silky. I have persistent AF. Sometimes it goes overboard .

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CDreamer

Best advice - listen to your body. I was 5-6 weeks before I even started to feel anywhere near ‘normal’ and still seem to get fatigued, even more than I used to easily. Lots of rest, gentle exercise in short bursts, good hydration and electrolyte as per above. I didn’t do the anti-virals, I have mixed views on the COVID ones, I am immune suppressed so could have qualified, I have other anti-viral meds on repeat prescriptions and use them maybe 4-5 times yearly and don’t have any problems with those. I don’t know enough Lagevrio.

I was having raised HR and episodes of AF for about 3 months after being COVID clear, I did have pneumonia though and was on antibiotics so that would have triggered the AF, chest infections always do for me.

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Luludean in reply to CDreamer

You have been through it Dreamer!! You are very well informed!! Good advice.

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secondtry

Unfortunately, from what I have seen, there is precious little details in the UK on treatment protocols for individuals to deal with Covid, whilst at home.

Useful background reading is available elsewhere, eg covid19criticalcare.com/tre... as always satisfy yourself first and then double check with your GP before taking any decisions.

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MikeThePike

6 boosters? Are/were they really necessary? No further questions your honour, nuff said.

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CDreamer in reply to MikeThePike

I’ve also had 6 - after my last in April I’ve said no more!

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TxVet33

Seek immediate medical attention for taking the clot-shots. Don't take anymore of them.

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TxVet33

Dr Robert Malone. Read/Listen

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Luludean in reply to TxVet33

I did read it! It took stamina !!

Probably prompted « lessons in chemistry”

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Ppiman

I’ve read that the Omicron variant is able to infect people regardless of their booster status but that the booster does prime the immune system effectively to prevent the severe form of the disease (when it targets the immune system and leads to respiratory and organ failure).

I’m not in the category to receive further booster shots and I’m not certain of the necessity but the science seems to favour having them overall.

Our two fully “boosted” older neighbours had Covid in the spring and were worried by how very poorly they were with it, but both have now entirely recovered.

Steve

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Luludean in reply to Ppiman

It seems such a variable virus !! Still lurking.

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Ppiman

It's an odd thing as it all seems in the past now but a friend's daughter has kidney disease from covid caught last year so it's far from "gone".

Steve

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Luludean in reply to Ppiman

Ugh!!! How horrible!! Can it be proven that it came from Covid? Poor girl. I am much cheered by all the kind messages I’ve received !

We all have different reactions to drugs and to “ minor” illnesses . But I ‘d challenge anyone now , who tells me Covid is nothing more than the average cold.

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Ppiman in reply to Luludean

Oh yes. The nephrologist is sure and it is even possible that it might have been made worse by the booster vaccine. In rare cases covid can, apparently, cause a range of “autoimmune” conditions. Hers is called ANCA vasculitis which then attacked her kidneys. If you look it up you’ll see there are reports of this and many other conditions that Covid can cause, mostly through messing up the immune system. It’s a potentially horrible virus.

Steve

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Luludean in reply to Ppiman

thank you . I won’t look it up .

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Ppiman in reply to Luludean

No - we were shocked by it but these are very rare things.

Steve.

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Luludean

keep in touch !!

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Vonnegut

Poor you! I tested positive for covid too at the end of January despite having had all the jabs. Fortunately, I felt no different than I had previously, apart from the bouts of AF I had during the time, though they didn’t last long with extra PIP. That was a bit scary and must have been related to the covid. And it seems to have worsened the Chronic Fatigue I have too.

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Luludean in reply to Vonnegut

yes it is horrible and goes on and on .

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Vonnegut in reply to Luludean

Guess you are right on that! Chronic fatigue plus!

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