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[bobify]

Hi everyone thanks for all your replies it was so helpful 😁 one thing more if you could help I have been in afib since last Monday and it won't settle can this be normal,I am as I said waiting for some more tests and then see the specialist but finding it hard to keep going through this at the moment although I keep trying I am am on meds bisopralol and digoxin any ideas how to help me cope while I have to wait for the hospital to come back or will it eventually go back in rhythm thanks again so much

[Paulbounce]

Hi Bobify

I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing afib again. While I'm not a doctor, I can try to provide some general information that may help you cope while waiting for further tests and seeing your medic.

Firstly, it's important to note that every individual's experience with afib can be different, and the severity and duration of episodes can vary. It's not uncommon for afib episodes to last for a prolonged period or to come and go sporadically. However, it's always best to consult with your healthcare provider for personalized advice and guidance.

In terms of coping strategies, here are a few suggestions:

Follow your medication regimen: It seems that you're already taking bisoprolol and digoxin as prescribed. It's crucial to continue taking your medications as directed by your doctor, as they play a key role in managing and controlling your heart rate during afib.

Manage stress: Stress and anxiety can exacerbate afib symptoms. Explore stress reduction techniques such as deep breathing exercises, meditation, mindfulness, or engaging in activities that help you relax and take your mind off the symptoms.

Avoid triggers: Some people find that certain triggers can worsen their afib symptoms. Common triggers include caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, excessive physical exertion, and certain medications. Pay attention to your lifestyle and try to identify any triggers that may be contributing to your symptoms.

Maintain a healthy lifestyle: Adopting a heart-healthy lifestyle can help improve your overall well-being and potentially have a positive impact on your afib. This includes eating a balanced diet, engaging in regular physical activity (if approved by your doctor), and getting enough sleep.

Educate yourself: Learn more about afib, its causes, symptoms, and available treatment options. Understanding your condition can empower you to make informed decisions and actively participate in your own care. However, be cautious about relying solely on online information and always consult with medical professionals for accurate advice.

Remember, these suggestions are not meant to replace medical advice. It's essential to maintain regular communication with your healthcare team to ensure appropriate management of your afib. They can provide you with specific guidance based on your individual situation and medical history. Stay strong, and I hope you find relief soon.

Have a lovely evening.

Paul

[bobify in reply to Paulbounce]

Hi thx so much for that 🙂 very helpful take care yourself 🙏

[mjames1]

Don't know your medical history, but in general, if you haven't converted in 3-4 days, then it's time to head to the A&E and hopefully they will convert you there. After that, speak to your doctor about a home plan for conversion such as a PIP anti-arrythmic, which can end episodes in 1-4 hours. If your episodes are very frequent, then daily anti-arrythmic's might be in order and/or ablation.

Jim

[bobify in reply to mjames1]

Hi cheers for that 🙂 will check into things

[opal11uk]

Hi Bobify, I have had P/A/F for over 20 years, had a stroke as a result, had ablation, have a Pacemaker and life was ticking along quite nicely with the help of drugs too so after visiting the GP several times for a cough, breathlessness dizziness etc., they finally turned their attention away from my lungs to my heart and low and behold found I was in permanent A/F, something ive never suffered from and was also in minor heart failure. My Bisoporal has been increased from 2.5mg to 10 mg and if this doesn't slow my heart down talking about introducing Digoxin. There is no 'normal' as such with A/F only measures of control so if you are feeling unwell then my advice is to go back to the GP or hospital and pressure them for that appointment. I read Paulbounce response to your post and agree with him entirely and as he says, its always best to consult with your healthcare provider for personalised advice and guidance. Good luck x

[Fullofheart in reply to opal11uk]

Hi. Your story resonates for me. Similarly, I have mild heat failure from 18 years AF. Been on digoxin. And looking to go back on it. Its a drug I tolerate well and I'm told helps with the rate control as well as heart failure which I'm starting medication for. They won't do pace and ablate for me (yet) as I'm too young. But had 3 unsuccessful ablations last year. I'm curious, if you have a pacemaker why do you need the rate control meds as well? Hope it's OK to ask.

[opal11uk in reply to Fullofheart]

I had the Pacemaker fitted because an ablation did not work and as a consequence of this my BP would plummet making me vulnerable to passing out so the Pacemaker was fitted to stop the rate going beneath 60 revs a min. the heart drugs are to stop the heart beating too fast ie going into A/F and for 8 years all has been well however a year ago, whilst playing table tennis, I broke my hip and life has gone a little down hill. Formerly I would know if I went into A/F but I didn't feel a thing, just became out of salts with breathlessness, cough and dizzy, had all sorts of tests and scans and finally they turned to my heart, had an ECG and they found in permanent A/F and heart failure so you can imagine my horror!!!! I hate taking drugs but they said if they can't get it under control then Digoxin so we wait and see, I am taking daily readings as requested and have an appointment on the 8th June. I am 79 years of age so generally think my heart is wearing out lol and me with it but am willing to try the Digoxin if it will help and I would like to get back to some sort of normality again, was hoping to play table tennis again and exercise to music too, I was fit for an old girl, now I walk with a stick and can't walk too fast without getting out of breath.......life can change very quickly i've found so very grateful for the good life that has gone before, despite A/F!

[Fullofheart in reply to opal11uk]

Thanks for taking the time to explain. That all makes sense.I'm currently off digoxin and I've been definitely more breathless. The cardiologist I think will put me back on it and I'm told its likely to help with that aspect. Will also be going on heart failure meds.

I'm only 47 which means they won't do the pacemaker route at this stage so just hoping the meds will do the trick for now to retain some quality of life and prevent or slow down further deterioration.

Hope things go well for you. You've had a rough ride! 🌸

[opal11uk in reply to Fullofheart]

Thank you for your reply, I so hope they get you sorted out soon so that you can get on with the rest of your life. Wishing you the best of luck x

[bobify in reply to opal11uk]

Hey thanks 👍 keeping a good eye on it taking in all this good advice so thankful to have this forum 😀

[Singwell]

Hi, sorry you're getting an extended episode. I read your other post and though it's several months since you were first diagnosed it sounds like it's early days for you yet in terms understanding your condition. I'm wondering if there's any way you can speed up the process of seeing a specialist - preferably an electrophysiologist- by paying privately. The appointment can then be followed up on the NHS. Especially if it's the same person.

When I first started my Af journey I remember posting here about distraction. What did others do to distract themselves during an AF episode? I got lots of useful and fun answers. So, sometimes it's a matter of finding a way to sit it put and get on with your life in a kind way. Are you able to enjoy the weekend at all for example? Not rushing about but perhaps sitting in the garden. Keep hydrated but avoid alcohol and sugary drinks for the moment. Read a book, watch a movie, listen to music. Or potter around the house or garden. Distraction into normal life can help keep us calm. Personally I find being in nature always helps me.

The other thing is the fluttering yoy mention. Some of us get this - it can be digestive so notice if it happens within an hour after meals. If so, eat slowly and take a good 5 minutes after eating to sit quietly.

The fluttery feeling can also be anxiety and I'm guessing you are feeling pretty anxious at present. Many of us experience this so you are not alone! Here's a breathing technique I use. It might help you.

1. Sit or lie comfortably so that your tummy can move easily when you breathe in. If you're lying down, this is easier on your left side.

2. Take a breath in.slowly through your nose. I usually count a slow 2. Let your tummy relax when you do this so it moves out gently.

3. There is a natural pause for most people after the inbreath

Try to tune into it but don't force it.

4. Let the breath out again all in one go - don't worry that you'll be out of breath - there's always air in the lungs right up until our last moments

5. Don't be surprised if you feel like another pause after the outbreath but again - don't force it. Keep tuning in either to the feel of the air moving through your nostrils or the sound.

6. If you need to breathe out through your mouth purse your lips slightly as it helps to feel the breath and know we're in charge of it.

6. Repeat.

Typically your breathing rate will calm and slow down. You may even feel like you're about to drop off to sleep.

This technique is one of many used by breath practitioners to help calm our systems and regulate breathing. I have often got my HR down by 15-20 BPM using this technique and sometimes seen my AF off. Also helps me if I cannot go to sleep

[bobify in reply to Singwell]

Hi thanks so much for your help I will try the breathing and look into some other things take care cheers

[bassets]

I do hope all the good advice here will help. I use deep breathing too. Let us know how you are going on? x

[bobify in reply to bassets]

Thanks 👍 you take care 😊

[bassets in reply to bobify]

😊

[bassets]

You too.