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Dare I state that a homeopathic medicine stopped my AFib attacks!!!

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How can a simple homeopathic medicine stop my AFib attacks that were getting more severe and much more prolonged prompting admissions to a+e, despite taking conventional medication to treat it? I myself cannot answer this question. In all honesty I don't think anyone on this site could answer it neither but one never knows someone might be quite knowledgeable regarding this matter. What I can do is relay my experience and share the good news being that I have not had a single AFib event be it minor or major and I have been in constant NSR, despite episodes of palpitations, for the past 5 weeks which is a miracle for me.

Bit of prior history. April 2022 cardiologist changed my meds from bisoprolol to verapamil. I could not tolerate the "non existent life" on bisoprolol which turned me into a sofa potato. For a good four months on verapamil got some respite from AFib which gave me new found hope. Then the AFib started again which got progressively worse and longer lasting with numerous admissions to a+e. Literally, I was falling apart, full of fear apprehension and doubt knowing my heart could not take much more of the severity of these attacks.

Hence got to see my NHS cardiologist privately at a cost of £390. He prescribed Dronedarone 400mg at an additional cost of £88. Did not take this medication, because two days later 30 Nov 22 I had an appointment with a homeopathic practitioner who is also a NHS GP, and I needed to find out if the homeopathic doctor could treat the AFib. After an mind opening consult he prescribed the appropriate medication and informed me that I could come off the verapamil but not the apixiban.

As already mentioned above I have not had a single AFib attack, been in constant NSR for the past five weeks but I am experiencing palpitations when doing hourly walks twice a day in sand dunes with my energetic dog.

Considering the improvement with AFib and my life I am feeling very optimistic for 2023.

As for now I am taking one day at a time and looking forward to my next consult with homeopathic practitioner 30 January.

Have a rewarding day.

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Jalia profile image
Jalia

Well, don't leave us hanging on !! What is the name of this drug?? I'm very eager to know!

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DizzyD in reply to Jalia

Its not a drug!!! Please read replys to other comments below

Jalia profile image
Jalia in reply to DizzyD

I realise that ....a slip of the finger but you know what I was getting at!

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Tomred in reply to Jalia

yeah ,same here ,what is the name of drug.....

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sassy59

Great news, I’m keen to know more. X

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DizzyD in reply to sassy59

Sassy pls read my replies below

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jeanjeannie50

Hi DizzyD

Yes, of course you can state your good news and thank you for sharing it! We're eager to learn all we can about what helps reduce AF. Can you tell us anything more please?

Jean

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DizzyD in reply to jeanjeannie50

Hi Jeanie pls read my replies below. Have a rewarding day

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to DizzyD

Will do.

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Hennerton

I am a great believer in homeopathy but this is remarkable and I am delighted for you. Nevertheless, your treatment will not necessarily be the one used for someone else, as I am sure you are aware that each person in homeopathy is treated differently. I have had success with it for various problems in my life and I hope you will continue to benefit from this wonderful safe treatment.

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DizzyD in reply to Hennerton

Hi Hennerton, i have explained in replies below that one treatment, like the one i was prescribed, (LACHESIS 12c) would not suit everyone. Some folk seem to think that homepathic treatment is similar to supplements. There is no comparrison. My homeopath is also a NHS gp which is quite reassuring. Cant see him fobbing off any of his NHS patients who mention alternative treatments...! To some extent he knows that science/ pharma meds dont have all the solutions. Hence, my moto today is: Live in the solution not the problem. AFib was a massive problem for me.Great that you have endorsed Homeopathy as being safe.

Thank you

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Hennerton in reply to DizzyD

you are extremely fortunate to have found a GP who also practices homeopathy. I should love to know of one but I think they are rare. I suppose you are not in the Thames Valley, are you?

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mjames1

Ok. Someone is going to eventually rain on this parade, so let me start. LOL. Five weeks in afib land is not very long. I can't even count the number of times I thought I found a cure, be it exercise, a diet change, etc -- only to be disappointed a few weeks or months down the road. Also, just because one event follows another doesn't mean one event influences another. Your five week respite may not have anything to do with the new drug at all. That said, you never know, and as long as what you're taking is safe (we would all like to know the name) and you're remaining on ACs, don't see the harm and I wish you the best of luck. Jim

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DizzyD in reply to mjames1

Hi mjames, 5 weeks free of AFib is like an eternity to me considering the intensity and prolonged events of attacks, so pls dont undermine what 5 weeks afib free means to me. I have not stated that the homeopathic medicine i am taking is a CURE. By the way let it pour with rain!!! The heavier and wilder the better....my favorite time for hiking in the great outdoors in that type of weather. Yes i am still taking abixaban. Advised by homeopath who is also a NHS gp not to stop taking them. Thanks Jim, have a rewarding day and if you dont already do it, try walking in the rain. Lol

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mjames1 in reply to DizzyD

Hello DizzyD, not my intention to undermine what 5 weeks of being afib means to you, just sharing my own experiences, which is an important part of a public forum. And I repeat again, in the world of afib, 5 weeks is not a lot of time to draw conclusions from. That said, and I mentioned this in my original post, I do hope you found your cure and the best of luck moving forward be it a rainy day or sunny. Jim

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CDreamer

I’ve had great success with homeopathy for various ailments, sadly with AF this didn’t happen for me but everyone has a different cause for AF so just maybe……🫰🏻for you.

I think it will certainly help your worry and anxiety so may reduce the number and the severity of the episodes.

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OzJames

That’s great news! Are there any other changes in diet or routine that might also have helped, often changing how we treat our bodies can improve things as well. Im sure all here would be keen to know what homeopathic treatments you have been given…. Well done on 5 weeks let’s hope it goes to 5 years!

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DizzyD in reply to OzJames

See my replies below please. 5 years afib free would be brilliant. As for now i take one day at a time.5 WEEKS AFIB FREE feels like an eternity to me considering how horrendous the afib was. Better still 5 weeks feel like i have been to infinity and beyond.

Hope you have a joyous day

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Threecats

I’m really pleased to hear your story Dizzy and sincerely hope your AF free run continues. I’ve also had some success with homeopathy in treating minor ailments but not with AF but then I’m only dabbling, I’ve not consulted a practitioner. For those dying to know the name of the remedy used , as Hennerton has said, each person will have a different remedy prescribed based on their individual symptom picture, there isn’t a “one size fits all” as I understand it.

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DizzyD in reply to Threecats

Yes totally agree with you. See my replies below.Have a properous day

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secondtry

That's excellent. An Alternative Practitioner is worth consulting for various reasons.....the prescription, less anxiety and covering all bases.

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Bunnyuk

I'm delighted to read this! I too am under an excellent homeppath, but unfortunately we didn't find a remedy for my very symptomatic and frequent PAF, so I went the ablation route. I've had success in other areas with homeopathy tho, and it certainly helped my recovery from the ablation. As others have said homeopathy works with rhe individual so any remedy is personal.to them.

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DizzyD in reply to Bunnyuk

Hi Bunnyuk i cannot have ablation due to enlarged heart. Although i not had afib for 5 weeks, this does not mean i am cured. Am hoping to arrange a consult with Stephen Hunter in Sheffield to see if i am suitable for mini maze procedure. God bless and thank you

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Bunnyuk in reply to DizzyD

Ah, but maybe, just maybe you wont have another episode! who knows. To go 5 weeks without is encouraging. Stay positive! Good luck xxx

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tunybgur

Some simple cheap supplements can be very effective, but why make these statements and withhold the punch line?

I understand there is strong evidence that vitamin C is very effective at preventing AF attacks, but the pharmaceutical companies won't make any profit from it.

Maybe I'm a bit cynical in my old age....

Good luck

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DizzyD in reply to tunybgur

Not holding back on name medicine at all. Homeopathic medicine is holistic, so the practioneer takes a detailed account of you as a whole person, personality type, likes + dislikes, diet, exercise, what makes you anxious etc and much more. Then he makes a descion as to what medicine, well remedy really, to prescibe. I was prescribed LACHESIS 12c which is made at main homeopath pharmacy in London and dispatched to me from there. One size does not fit all! Depending on your personality type etc you could be prescribed a totally different remedy. This is not a supplement...its minute particles of a toxic substance and can only be prescribed by a homeopath practioner. When i go see him again, end of January, i will specifically mention the palpitations which is totally different from horrendous Afib attacks, and he will most probably prescibe another

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DizzyD in reply to DizzyD

Continued from above.another remedy.

Normally use my laptop, its playing up so first time ever i am trying to reply on phone which i find too small.

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tunybgur in reply to DizzyD

Gotcha....so it's all individualised '3 parts of this' and 'dash of that' etc.....I think a lot of it comes from traditional Chinese medicine which is proven over thousands of years, some of which forms the basis of modern meds.

I also think some of it is psychosomatic, as are many modern cures.

Good luck

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stoneyrosed in reply to DizzyD

Is it snake venom dizzy? Also used to act against certain cancers I believe. I really hope it works for you, fingers crossed dizzy 🤞

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wilsond

Im not sure what you mean when you say you have been in nsr for 5 weeks but experience palpitations every day dogwalking ?

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DizzyD in reply to wilsond

Just normal palpitations, check my fitbit every time it happens suspecting a fib is about to show itself, but it reads Normal Sinus Rhythm.

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wilsond in reply to DizzyD

Odd! Best wishes for it to continue x

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Mugsy15 in reply to wilsond

I don't think that's odd at all Dawn; I know what you mean: how can it be called normal rhythm if it's abnormal rhythm? But NSR naturally includes ectopics in almost everyone, and Dizzy's palps, going by what they have written, fit within the Fitbit's logarithm for NSR. Perhaps the main point, however, is not so much whether or not it can strictly be described as NSR, but more importantly that it can be described as 'not AF'.

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wilsond in reply to Mugsy15

Yes,I get your point.

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Ppiman

AF is a highly variable condition that comes and goes at will. Homeopathy has never been shown to be effective and, essentially, it is impossible for it to be so. And yet, successes happen and that's wonderful. It's like taking vitamins or magnesium, the science isn't there but some people find they help and, well, they are safe.

Steve

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DizzyD in reply to Ppiman

Science does not have all the answers if it did why is there more sick people in the world despite the vast amount of pharma meds? Do some research homeopathic medicine is nothing like a supplement in any way. I did not start this post to create a divide between pharma meds and science. I simply aimed to share my experience of being AFib free, for five weeks, which is a miracle for me. Have a rewarding day.

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Ppiman in reply to DizzyD

But my point was that successes happen despite science showing they shouldn’t.

Science, however, never claims to have the answers. It’s work is to keep looking for explanations in a rational, objective way.

Steve

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DizzyD in reply to Ppiman

So sorry Steve I misinterpreted your comment.. Have rewarding day

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Auriculaire in reply to DizzyD

Pharma meds on the whole are not meant cure people. There is no money in cured people. The moneyspinners are drugs that have to be taken long term preferably for life that just suppress symptoms . One company has brought out a drug which actually cures Hep C . As a result there are less Hep C infections and so demand for their drug is falling and so is the money it was bringing in. Pharma companies are businesses first and foremost with shareholders to satisfy. I really hope your success with the homeopathy continues. I have used it in the past with mixed results. Acupuncture too. Even if the result is due to placebo it is not to be sniffed at.

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frazeej in reply to Auriculaire

In fact, there are very few cures in medicine, aside from what you say are the money spinning folks at "BIG PHARMA", save for the infectious diseases treated (and cured) by antibiotics (is this another "money grab"??). However, the success rate in "controlling symptoms" is substantial, even without a "cure". High blood pressure, diabetes, even some afib, numerous other heart conditions, COPD, some forms of mental illness, etc., etc. The list goes on and on. It's a shame that folks seeking a nonexistent cure will flock to unproven and debatable therapies such as homeopathic medicine (IMO a fraud), and other highly suspect therapies. Big Pharma does make money-that is permissible in a capitalistic society, but the benefits brought about by this alleged "money grab" are incalculable.

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Auriculaire in reply to frazeej

High blood pressure and diabetes are largely lifestyle affairs - for the most part brought on by poor diet and sedentary lfestyle and both can be corrected without medication. Many antidepressants work little better than placebo and are too often prescribed for unhappiness which is part of life and not any sort of illness. Overprescription of antibiotics is going to lead to a medical disaster unless new ones are discovered and Pharma is now reluctant to do this as they are not profitable enough.

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DizzyD in reply to frazeej

Get it right please frazeej I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR A CURE VIA HOMEOPATHY! However, I was looking for a more holistic approach to help with severe attacks of AFib that were ruining my life, thankfully, I found help and relief via homeopathy. Clearly, you are biased with a closed mind and tunnel vision. Do you know the main reason why homeopathy and other safe alternative medicines, proven to work for centuries, is frowned upon by conventional medicine and especially big pharma? Money it's all about the money, massive bucks. If big pharma could make money out of homeopathic medicine believe me they would have taken over this homeopathic institution in the blink of an eye.

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frazeej in reply to DizzyD

>>proven to work for centuries<<. To the best of my knowledge, there is not a single responsible, peer reviewed study that has ever demonstrated any benefit from homeopathy. Ancient wisdom and anecdotal observation is not science, but folklore.

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Mugsy15 in reply to DizzyD

Homeopathy is a science, just as pharmacology is. It's easy to romanticise the differences between the two by labelling one an evil, profit-driven soulless business and the other a wonderful caring force for good with its roots in ancient wisdom.

It's just as easy, and perhaps lazy, to see one as the result of hundreds of years of painstaking research and experiment and the other as a quack remedy pushed by snake oil salesmen.

Let's not use the word 'science' to describe one but not the other, thereby using the word negatively. Science is simply the search for truth and we'd still be in the stone age if Homo Sapiens hadn't evolved an insatiable curiosity!

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Ppiman in reply to Mugsy15

Isn't science more a methodology of testing hypotheses, and retesting them to validate or invalidate them - to find the "truth"? That's why homeopathy has failed the scientific tests applied to it and its efficacy must, therefore, remain at a different level, one beyond science - a kind of spiritual level, for want of a better phrase. For those, like me, who trust to the scientific method, and whose personal experience of alternative therapies and therapists has so far been negative, I can only say I think those who find success to be very lucky.

Steve

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Astridnova in reply to Ppiman

Steve, Magnesium is of fundamental importance to cellular metabolism and has a very important relationship with potassium. I suggest you check out medical research on this, and for instance the incidence of stroke.

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Ppiman in reply to Astridnova

Oh, I agree that magnesium is central to many metabolic processes. Indeed, I think I have read as much about magnesium and its metabolism as I have about much else. You are completely right in what you say.

Sadly, its oral use hasn't been shown to have any meaningful anti-arrhythmic effect that I can find. Perhaps if a way could be found to increase gut absorption, but then it seems it might seriously disturb the metabolism of potassium and other electrolytes with potentially dangerous effects on the heart and elsewhere.

Intravenous MgSO4 has been shown to be useful, but not the oral form so far as I can find. As for magnesium taurate, which is the Flaherty of the month, so to speak, the science remains lacking.

Steve

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Desanthony

That's fabulous news. Please do tell us more. I would love to be able to refer my friends with paroxysmal Afib to your homeopath.

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DizzyD in reply to Desanthony

Hi read my replies above and maybe some below. Have a lovely day

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Lilypocket

That sounds really positive and obviously makes you feel well too. You have us all waiting with bated breath to know what this plant based cure is.But maybe wait until you pass the 4 month respite mark you had on Verapamil which was also something that worked for you and you could have argued had stopped your Afib ( until it didn't). At the moment you have had 5 weeks respite plus the bonus of feeling really well which is a big plus. I really hope it continues to work for you and look forward to your updates .

Take care

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Palpman

Good luck to you but we all at one point thought we found the holy grail only to be disappointed later.I'm sure if the homeopathic medication you took really does work then the mainstream pharmaceutical companies would be selling it to the NHS by now.

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DizzyD in reply to Palpman

No way would pharma companies be interested in homepathic medicine. They woukd not make enough profit. Homeopath medicine is an independent institution with the sole aim trully treating healing people.Pharma meds just treat symptons, not actual cause of illness, plus more pillsis given to treat side effects...revolving door issue back to doctor, more pills. Before long end up with an arsenal of meds but sicker. Considering pharma meds are so great why has society got sicker and sicker? Why is NHS so over whelmed with sick people? Surly with all those wonderful pharma drugs in circulation our NHS should be virtually empty. But sadly thats not the case is it.

I did not state i was cured and found the holy grail. I said that i have been afib free for five weeks thanks to homeopath medicine prescibed by homeopathic practioner who is an NHS gp

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JayDJ in reply to DizzyD

Ignore the negativity and if it works for you, then that is all that matters.

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MarkS

Verapamil can interact with Apixaban , see drugs.com/interactions-chec...

Sorry to be a spoil sport, but I suspect the improvement may be more to do with stopping verapamil rather that some property of a homeopathic medicine. Also, can I suggest that AF is not an emergency condition unless you have a stroke or heart attack, and there's not a lot of point going to A&E.

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DizzyD in reply to MarkS

With afib as severe as mine gets which lasts for dsys in its severity you are supposed to be admitted or attend a+e as soon as possible incase of stroke or heart attack. When i say afib i was not referri g to minor afib which one is able to function in life with on a daily basis.

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DizzyD in reply to MarkS

Thank you Mark for the link. Just read it and surprised to read that verapamil can interact with apixaban in an adverse way. I had awful headaches on the two meds, kept checking my BP to rule out hypertension, but it was always ok. Sincere thanks, I really y have learnt something new today. Have an awesome day

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Desanthony in reply to DizzyD

I hadn't known this but anyway couldn't take any beta blockers or calcium channel blockers or any rate control drugs. They made me feel worse than the Afib.

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Astridnova in reply to Desanthony

I hate those meds. Did you just do without or substitute?

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Eirecara

Thank you for passing this on. Best of luck to you ☘️

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Tomred

This brings me to the herbal route i tried starting around last may when someone mentioned hawthorn berry, i decided to give it a go under my own supervision, well WOW, FIRST TABLET FIRST DAY ,TOTALLY AMAZED , it was like a miracle and continued for approx 3 weeks to 4 weeks, couldnt believe i actually felt like i was 16 again, didnt want to report on here until i was totally sure, so now 7 months later i still take and still feel good especially my breathing , but the overall miraculous feeling disappeared after those initial 3-4 weeks, it hasnt stopped afib but i feel my heart has a stronger beat to it,plus i can carry a weighted object or the use the stairs much easier, maybe an altered dose could be of help but because im on bisoprolol and multaq im been cautious.

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DizzyD in reply to Tomred

Hey Tomred that's brilliant news. Great the the Hawthorne Berry worked for you. I tried Hawthorne Berry tinture for high BP but after first small dose, as a test, I got really bad migraine with visual auras. Don't know what would have happened if I taken the recommended dose. I see you take tablet form. If you don't mind me asking could you private msg me with brand name. The tinture I took may have been too strong. The good thing about homeopathy is that you can take it alongside any conventional pharmaceutical meds. As of now I only take levothyroxine and apixaban which is fine by me. As far as I am concerned the least pharmaceutical meds I take the better. I will be out picking dandelion roots this year...brilliant for cardiovascular treatment. My faith is now being restored in natural way to treat health problems.

Over and out, have a rewarding day.

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philologus

I'm really glad that you found someone you feel you can trust. I am very much in favour of homeopathy as a large number of people (including family) have benefitted from seeing a practitioner. The fact that you have been free of "the mongrel" for five weeks (and counting) affects your well-being mentally - and that has amazing knock-on effects. Long may it last!😀

Work along with Mother Nature. If you don't - you will lose! Our bodies are often capable of repairing themselves as long as we give them the tools they need and stop doing things that work against that. A surgeon might skillfully stitch a wound - but it's our body's natural ability to heal that repairs the wound. The surgeon just makes it easier and we can be grateful for both.

Many 'illnesses' are classed as 'modern' and were almost unheard of only a hundred years ago. I was amazed when I read a book 'The Invisible Rainbow' and learned what could be behind this. If you want a challenge; see if you can find out when cancer was first mentioned in a medical journal or book and then follow up by tracing it through the years.

I'm not against modern medicine and I appreciate the new medical techniques and devices but I still question everything and tend to use the (broken) NHS as a means to gather information (from various tests etc) and then I ask myself, "What can I do to work along with Mother Nature?"

It's another subject, but what do you think is needed to 'fix' the NHS?

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Kingst

I think we have to mention the elephant in the room here. When people find success with anything other than Big Pharma meds, it often threatens others who are so afraid of their condition that to even consider leaving the fold of Western medicine is threatening. I have often observed the intense fear on this site, and that fear is entirely understandable. This is your heart, for Pete's sake! But sometimes these fearful people feel the need to challenge your success using alternative treatments, perhaps out of anger that you dared put doubt in their heads about what they are doing. Let's be honest. This forum is essentially a daily litany of people dealing with difficult and frightening side effects of Western drugs and procedures. The descriptions of the awful daily side effects have my head reeling. I made the decision years ago to seek more time-honored modalities for health issues, often founded in supplements, homeopathy, Chinese, Indian and Japanese medicine. My belief is that if something has worked to solve a health problem consistently for hundreds of years, I am willing to give it a go before I put my body through the rigors of Western chemicals. So far it has worked well for me. Back to my point. I see that many here are "raining on your parade". I ask you to respect your own successes and ignore the fear of others, because that's all it is- fear. There are piles of evidence backing your choice in homeopathy. Sadly, much of the information about this is rarely emphasized in the news media. There is a wonderful documentary about special homeopathy clinics all over India that are solving health problems for the masses. Many of the people visiting these clinics had previously been on Western medicine without resolution, but in the hands of seasoned homeopathic doctors they are made healthy again. It sounds like you are in great hands and I celebrate your success. Best of Luck!!

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Threecats in reply to Kingst

Well said, Kingst.

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AussieHeart

An interesting post as I’ve sought out natural remedies in my time, never knowing if it’s the placebo effect but I enjoy learning about alternatives so thank you for posting. I researched this product and found it also has efficacy against a common bacteria Staphylococcus aureus linked to the respiratory tract infection sinusitis ijhsr.org/IJHSR_Vol.10_Issu.... Suffered with that complaint forever so might just seek out a homeopath to discuss. PS: I’ve always wondered whether AF is linked to a virus or bacteria. My gastroenterologist ran an extensive microbiota test and my gut lacked diversity despite excellent diet :-)

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Hairem

Hello,

I live in Canada and Homeopaths are only allowed to prescribe anything with only tiny amounts of active ingredients, the rest is water.

Good luck with your Afib journey.

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LACHESIS 12c is on sale in amazon, are you taking it daily?

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