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Meat in diet and AF

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We should all know that too much meat is bad for humans. We were never designed to eat it every day. Now I'm not promoting veganism or even vegetarianism despite my wife being veggie but we do eat far too much meat.

I remember years ago watching a programme about a South American tribe who went and hunted a monkey to kill and share around because the chief decided it was time his people had some things that ony meat could supply.

What has this to do with AF then?

Well a recent post about AF having started after a lot of meat had been consumed reminded me of my experiences a few Christmases ago which I suddently realised I was repeating. Over the Christmas and New Year period I had eaten a vast amount of meat, both poultry and beef and in early January started to get some serious chest pains which resulted in a visit to my doctor (You could do that back then.Lol 😁 ) Lots of tests were done finding no cardiac issues and eventually it was decided that it was most lkely digestive. Apparently oesophageal spasm can often mimic a heart attack. By careful diet and some short term use (about ten days) of an "asole" the pain went away.

Fast forward to last weekend when Sam bought a nice peice of beef for Sunday dinner, knowing we had a full house of sons +one. It was very nice but one son went out and there was a lot left over. On Monday I had beef sandwich for lunch and similarly on Tuesday and Tuesday evening we had Cottage pie. Wednesday I woke with a slight pain to left of chest which over the day also affected my back between my shoulder blades. Now I know my cardiac arteries are fine having had an angiogram in August so was trying to work out what I had done thinking maybe a pulled muscle when I suddenly had a Homer moment. DOH! All that Beef!

OK so no AF but then after three AF ablations that would be unusual but it does show just how sensitive our bodies are.

Everything in moderation.

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sassy59 profile image
sassy59

l completely agree Bob as I suffer with digestive problems and pain in upper back. I’m trying hard to be careful with my diet and not eat too much meat. A good post.

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Tommyboy21

Having digestive problems I've cut back a lot on meat eating veggie alternatives like the vegetarian butchers magic mince and veggie sausages ect. I still eat chicken once a week and fish. I've stopped bread products and sadly have to be careful what fruit i eat. Helps the gut but not with the afib . But if I eat red meat when out somewhere I feel yukky.

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Cavalierrubie

Unfortunately as we get older, our digestion and other parts of our body do not work as efficiently as they used too. Meat has essential vitamins that we need and is particularly beneficial to individuals who are anaemic. Everything that God created for us to eat is good, but everything in moderation is the key. We are all individual and what one can tolerate, another cannot. Like you Bob, we learn to listen to our bodies and learn by our mistakes. It is essential that we all look after ourselves and eat good food. Like a car engine, we need to keep running efficiently, so 5 star. !!!!!!!!!

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pd63

Hunter gatherers for 250000 years, ate the occasional animal, otherwise mostly wild fruits veggies etc.10000 yrs ago settled down to farming etc. we ain't had enough evolution to adapt

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Singwell

Well, what I learned from this was that an oesophagal spasm can mimic a heart attack. Since developing AF I too changed my eating habits - only very rarely have beef except as consommé. We get around this by eating meat or fish one day, vegetarian or vegan the next day. It now feels weird to me to eat meat 2 days in a row. Early warning for Christmas Bob! And there I was contemplating a small glass of dry organic cider...

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secondtry

Hear hear, everything in moderation should be a goal for most of us.

We have got too detailed with diets etc etc. So many times, something be it food or supplement is said to be good for you and then it unbalances something else.

I liked the following advice I read recently on food:

Was it available 150yrs ago

Did your ancestors eat it

Do healthy cultures like it

How does it make you feel

Who is marketing it

Have a great Sunday Bob and thanks for your consistently wise words!

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wilsond in reply to secondtry

Love that one!

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Auriculaire

I think the problem of "too much" is less a problem of how often but how much you actually put on your plate and this applies to all animal protein. Most people probably eat far too much at one time. I have noticed that when we eat out the piece of meat , fish or poultry (vegetarian restaurants are as rare as hen's teeth in our part of France which is cow country) on the plate is at least twice and sometimes three times the amount I would serve at home. Omelettes are huge made with at least 4 eggs. And often starters are enough for a main course. I watch stick thin French women hoover all this up and wonder how they do it. Small amounts of animal protein can be eked out with beans or chickpeas. My husband will not eat vegetarian food other than egg dishes but is satisfied with small amounts of animal protein provided the dishes are tasty. I would never serve meat two days running or more than twice a week .I don't actually like beef apart from mince so we eat very little. Cooking Indian , Thai or North African dishes is good for reducing animal protein content without it being noticed too much!

I don’t believe there is anything wrong with eating as much red meat as you want.

As long as it is fresh and comes from a trusted organic source with no hormonal additives in the steer’s diet.

My guess is that it is preservatives and burning the meat that increase the risk of colon cancer.

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