This looks interesting!

[Elsie1955]

tctmd.com/news/vagus-nerve-...

Can you imagine being able to stop afib by using a small clip on your ear?

[BobD Volunteer]

You wish! lol 😁

[Teresa156]

Thanks for sharing- I think there might be something in this as I had a response the other day to one of my posts and there was a chap who had been using vagal stimulation of his ear to stop his afib with good results - I will hopefully try and draw his attention to this….

OzRob

[Threecats]

Looks interesting, thank you for posting, Elsie. Initial results from the small study certainly suggest it’s worth further research.

[Elsie1955]

My sister was a severe epileptic and they discovered that certain stimulation of the vegus nerve stopped epileptic attacks. There's an implant that goes into the chest, to the left (her left) of the heart. When she began to have an epileptic episode, we could run this magnet over the Vegus Nerve Stimulator implant (VNS) and her seizure would stop! So why couldn't this be done with afib?

[CDreamer in reply to Elsie1955]

It has been done, trialled and not been affective enough to be considered as a treatment although it did lessen theAF burden. It really depends upon what causes your AF and there are multiple causes. If you have purely vagal AF then there are other ways you can regulate vagus without electrical stimulation.

I think there was one on the market you can buy - I seem to remember seeing it some years ago.

[secondtry]

Its up to Alternative Practitioners and ourselves to keep trying to make AF control easier as mainstream medics & Big Pharma are unlikely to come to the party. VN stimulation through humming 'Ohmmmmmmmmm' can I understand be effective. I believe my VN was stuck in anxiety mode and over years I have reduced stress to get it to go in and out of anxiety mode as normal.

[SingingT]

Now that does look good. I’m sure it might help me. I often get a tremor in the right side of my jaw, where the vagus travels, when my heart is arrhythmic.

[Poochmom]

Hi Elsie,

I see you are in the US? I firmly believe my lone AFib was a vagal nerve issue. I don’t know if you have read any of the posts regarding Dr Randall Wolf and the Wolf Mini Maze but he believes also that the vagus nerve is the culprit in lone AFib and treats it very successfully. I had the WMM in June this year. I had episodes every 5 days and haven’t had one since. This procedure has an extremely high success rate long term. I just thought I would mention it in case you aren’t familiar with it. You can Google wolf mini maze for info.

[OzRob]

I am the person that has been using a Tens machine to stimulate my vagus nerve via my ear.

I have Vagal Afib and have been getting Afib episodes almost daily over the last 3 months.

It is only 10 days since I started with the Tens machine, this post contains everything so far which will be updated with my results and thoughts.

healthunlocked.com/afassoci...

[healingharpist in reply to OzRob]

I have also experimented with the Dolphin Stimulation device using painless micro-current, which can include ear clips for vagal stimulation. You can search this online and see the many uses the Dolphin handset has for pain, AF, and issues in every part of the body. You apply the device to various acupuncture points (it’s painless), and stimulating the points is said to relieve pain, especially. My acupuncture doctor uses one on patients. This is a well-researched device with professional support for questions etc., but it is $300 to $900 USD. I have stopped some Afib episodes by stimulating the vagus nerve in the ear, but doesn’t always work, because I think I have mixed adrenergic and vagal AF.

Recently, I stopped two AF episodes by playing (attempting to play, is more accurate!) a didgeridoo!! I had read it could help AF, but I didn’t believe it could stop it cold, as it did. I bought a didgeridoo at a farmers market for about $40 USD but never learned to play it properly. However, that doesn’t seem to matter—I just started blowing into it while in an AF episode, and it stopped almost immediately. Something about the pressure of forcing out the air, perhaps, because it takes some rather strong blowing out to get a sound.

I am keeping the didgeridoo handy… although I can’t say my technique is improving much 😸.

All good health to you… keep us posted! Diane S,

[Elsie1955 in reply to healingharpist]

thanks for all that good information! I own a genuine Australian-made digeridoo and it helped my husband to clear up after being diagnosed with COPD.

[healingharpist in reply to Elsie1955]

Wow, you own a didgeridoo already! I did not post my comments about it previously, because I thought "not many people will have one handy", but you do, and probably more than I imagined. And it helped your husband's COPD, that's great. Certainly worth a try for atrial fib!

[MummyLuv]

very interesting indeed, let’s hope more studies follow 🤞 the trick to this will be to catch afib early if it is vagal afib rather than once it starts to progress and is harder to treat

[Ppiman]

That was interesting - thank you. I found also a more up-to-date review linked below. The problem seems to be that the vagal stimulation process can easily trigger AF as well as suppress it. It seems to be a work in progress. I did read of someone using a TENS machine for this with claimed success, only recently.

sciencedirect.com/science/a...

Steve

[Gertsen]

would be great 😊

[Tomred]

hi , my partner is diabetic and 2 years ago her pinky toe went black and dead and hospital said it would have to come off , she spent a year in constant agony , i meanwhile done some searching on the internet and came up with 2 supplements to try , 2-3 days later her toe started to reverse and one week later was as good as new , WOW WOW WOW, so she finished the supplements and all was great for about 1 year when suddenly the other little pinky done the same , Dr said it would have to come off , so she got more off same supplements and guess what, 2-3 days later the condition reversed again, needless to say she now continues with supplements every day, what im getting at here is , regarding the above link you included everything is worth a try before knocking . Anyone interested in supplement names please message me, obviously i cant say they will work for anyone else in similar position, but worth trying.

[riffjack846]

Where do I get one of those contraptions?

[Aus19]

Thank you for posting this, very interesting.