Hi,
has anyone any idea what I can use to treat fungal toenail nail? Says definitely not the standard tablet route with AF and our meds.
any advice please?I'd go to our chemist but there have been problemswith staffing,suddenly a sign goes up randomly to say closed due to no pharmacist present and the phone....well let's not go there!
Is that Boots Wilsond? Our local one is diabolical. Notices up every five minutes,no pharamcist.There may be bigger Boots issue.
No its Lloyd's. What is going on ?!
Lloyds is even worse! The whole staff walked out of our local branch which was then closed for 2 weeks and when it reopened it was chaos! Our GP told us to avoid so we now drive another 5 miles to a recommended Independant Pharmacy - who are brilliant!
Two Boots shops been shut at times in my area too.
What next?!!!
Well a popular cafe in a nearby town was shut, through lack of staff. What on earth is going on!!!
I just don't get it. Surely people need work even more now!or are they all working in distribution warehouses?! But eventually no one will have money to but the stuff!Beam me up Scotty.
A lot of positions were filled by east European workers, including many dentists so I think that’s why we have a labour shortage! Something the government is playing down. The Lake District hotels are really suffering. Good Old Brexit! How the masses were conned!
Rubbish our population has shot up in the last 25 years ,staff shortages are nothing to do with Brexit.
My sisters care home struggled with staff after Brexit but thankfully has managed to fully restaffed with equally lovely Sri Lankan and Philippine staff
There's nothing to stop anybody in the world working in the UK ,good luck to your sister.
UK Immigration Law? UK Government anti EU worker sentiment, unless they are rich of course? Other EU countries are paying more for the same jobs due to the decline in our economy due to Brexit?
All the best.
Roy
This is not a political forum, but in reply to your remark ...the UK government is not anti EU they implemented a democratic decision,whether you agree or not. When Germany stop paying Russia a billion euros a day to finance the Russian war effort come back with something useful to say.
I was responding to your comment that there was nothing to stop anyone in the World working in the UK. Unless they are rich of course, in which case I totally agree with you. Nothing else.
All the best.
Roy
Well try telling that to establishments in the Lake District! Everywhere you look there are staff wanted notices. A friend who had a very thriving hotel is only able to open to residents… although much of her business previously was passing tourists. She’s just recently started to employ a few Ukrainians who have moved here recently. One care home in Kendal announced on the local news that they are now full staffed again… nearly 40% of new staff coming from south India… to replace the Eastern Europeans who left after Brexit!
Well tell that to establishments in the Lake District. Staff wanted notices everywhere and many places really struggling. A friend with a very thriving hotel has had to close to non residents… although much of her business was passing tourists.Care home in Kendal recruiting nearly 40% of its staff from south India due to the return of east Europeans after Brexit!
Couldn’t agree with you more Thomas. Utter chaos in our Sunlit Uplands.
Happening here in the USA too Jean. The minimum wage has been raised by the government to $15 an hour and many mom and pop businesses just can't afford to pay that and pay their overhead too. People are leaving the restaurants and finding other work less stressful. Many people still working from home as that's cheaper for the businesses who are still doing that. Rent is so high in many areas people are moving to other areas to find someplace to live. More and more people are becoming homeless because they can't afford the rent. They are being evicted. These aren't bums. These are hardworking people. Many husbands and wives both work. Many work more than one job and still can't afford rent. For example a house that rented for $1000 a month is up to double or triple that in many areas around the country. Utilities are double and triple. Home insurance and car insurance has gone up significantly. Many people have had to drop their home insurance because it has gone sky high. Several home and property insurance companies here in Florida have closed or moved to other states. We are suffering from the highest inflation in the USA in 40 years. And before long if things don't change soon we will be in for another depression. I would assume you in the UK and other countries have to be suffering from the same. We have a great restaurant not far from where I live. It's an old sugar mill that is in a park. Been in business for over 60 years. They are closing because they can't afford to pay the increase in utilities and other overhead. There have been many mom and pop businesses close. Chain restaurants and stores do better but still have risen their prices. I see people in the grocery store look at the meat counter and walk away because they can't afford to pay the high prices. Including myself. I tend to look for the meat that has been marked down. Even canned pet food is double in price. So now my cats only get wet food once a day. Dry the rest of the day. 😿Like a friend of mine would say--The world is upside down. 😕😞
It certainly is!.
So far I haven’t found anything that’s any good. My 2nd toe right foot was always cracked as my foot was trodden on by adult when small and now is fungal. All but 1 is now fungal 😭 So will be interested also
Neat tea tree oil twice a day. Cheapest in 100ml quantities off ebay.😁
You have to be careful with Tea treatment oil!
I have never had any problems with it. Also no one i know that uses it has either. Is it a case of the pharma industry demonising natural treatments I wonder.
I’ve been a multi disciplined Complementary Therapist for 25 years, possible but a very learned friend of mine who uses oils regularly warned me to be careful, it is a very powerful oil and as they say ‘less is more’. I have felt burning on occasions from it neat. I use the book ‘The Fragrant Pharmacy’ brilliant and very knowledgable lady.
Does it say ‘Essential’ because if it doesn’t its been mixed
Yes it's essential. I use it neat and always have. I'm sorry it affects you. I must have tough skin! I was a therapist too.😊
I use tea tree oil neat if I get a hint of athletes foot . Works well. I have a small patch of thrush in my groin ( probably due to excess sweating during the heat and my current couse of antibiotics making it worse) and I put some neat tea tree oil on last night. It stung a bit but definitely looks improved this morning
😱 I bet it did
It's an all round treatment in our house. 😊 I get a bit hot under the breast area but don't use tea tree there because it's a wet treatment. Men are lucky they aren't shaped like us! Last time I had a rash I took a chance and bought prickly heat powder with menthol. It worked a treat. I thought if it works in clammy countries it will in the UK. We seem to do "humid" well!😁
I have the same problem but found abandoning my bra when at home in hot weather helps. I used to get awful chafing with underwired bras. Going braless has also helped enormously with breast pain that I used to suffer from a lot. Apparently you get better lymph drainage. The heat here in the Limousin is not the dry heat of Provence and the Med. It can be extremely humid.
Auriculaire. I agree with everything you said. Oh to be flat chested. 😅
Yes I've wished that for years! My husband is not in agreement but he does not have to put up with the inconveniences. And the flatchested often pine for augmentation . Grass greener .
Lol.😁😅🥰
Oh dear, I sympathise. I’m not so endowed but still suffer. I’m sure you know that fungal infection can also be a problem. I prefer natural fibre clothing but difficult to find in garments.
I wear mainly cotton clothes. I am allergic to wool -it has made me itch since being a small child. I do sweat a lot especially when working in the garden in summer. But I always feel better - perhaps sweating out toxins has something to do with it. I am overweight so have more skin folds than I used to so have to watch out for fungal infections. Luckily I don't get them under my breasts .
I have been trying an athletes foot cream and whilst it’s not cleared yet after just a few days of putting some on the nail twice daily, the nail does look better.
My husband used a fungal toenail paint with the active ingredient Amorolfine (I think it was 5%?) in it- it comes in various brand names. The GP recommended it in order to avoid taking the tablets, and it’s worked for him… (Not sure about any contraindications - I’ve googled but can’t find anything helpful, sorry.)
Same here with our pharmacy! What is up with them? And last week I received my meds from them in a box with a good expiry date on it, but once home, the tablets inside the box had an expiry date of July 22!! Shocking…
Good luck with the toe xx
Have you tried Tea Tree Oil - few drops in warm water to wash and then the cream. If it’s not severe it works OK.
I'll try that thank you
😅 Great minds think alike. Much better than chemicals and more effective.🤗
Was prescribed Clotrimazole by a podiatrist. Seems to change the color, not sure of total effectiveness, probably don't use it enough.
But do stay away from tablets, many issues possible.
Anyone have a recommendation for trimming a fungal toenail ? Mine is quite brittle and normal clippers do not work. Podiatrist did trim but he since retired and others recommend only filing which is quite cumbersome.
If you soak your foot in a bowl of water with a few drops of tea tree oil for a half an hour and then try, it should trim ok and not fracture.😊
I'm a foot health practitioner.😊. Tablets are the best way if its a particularly bad issue with a few nails affected. However, they are contraindicated with a few health conditions as the active ingredient, terbinafine can cause liver problems, so doctors will be reluctant to prescribe it.The reason tablets are better is because the fungus is actually in the nail bed beneath the nail so it's difficult to treat topically.
However, some of my patients have had good results with the Scholl Fungal Nail Treatment. You must use it religiously for effective treatment but it will still take a few months to improve. Or, you could find a practitioner who does the Lacuna Method treatment, which involves drilling little holes in the nail so the topical treatment can get through to the nail bed. It's not as gruesome as it sounds.😁.
Lamisil is also an option. This has terbinafine as the active ingredient, not as potent as the tablets so I would still suggest you discuss that one with your pharmacist.
You can cock your foot up on the table for a free consult when we meet for frothy coffee 😁........ trying to free space in the diary for that.x
OK Ducky! Drills (!!) I trust you.....I can do most afternoons 3pm onwards, Inc Saturday. ( on taxi duty for son,daughter in law giving birth v soon) Perhaps the Costa by the Walsgrave triangle..by cinema/ bowling?
Bring your drill lol 😆
Now I cannot get this sight out of my head ARGHH. But good to know about the Scholl treatment. Will inform hubby who's got a particlarly manky toe.
😆
Yep, I've had some success with the Scholl treatment, and it does take a long, long time to work. I found the treatment pack fell short on the abrasive and things, but the treatment oil went on and on, so I used regular emery boards. Got there in the end, after about twice as long as they said.
Yes, it dies take a long time and folks usually get impatient and stop using it as regularly, which then takes it longer to go.I just tell people to get a big pack of Emery boards from the poundshop and cut them in half to make them stretch and throw them away after single use.😊.
I have the dreaded fungal nails from my running days. I have been on Terbinafine for 5 months and my Dr wants me to come off at 6 months. I have had one liver function blood test. All OK. Nails slightly improved as they grow out but a long way from perfect.
Vick, old fashioned remedy but it works, although it takes a few months!
Hi
A friend had a really bad case but his toenail was saved.
Prevention always cut a V in the nail at the top to stop the toenail ingrowing.
Soak feet/foot in salt water.
Dry properly.
Put antifungus cream on sparingly. I PREFER DAKTARAN not a partially funded ointment. Look for a good date forward to use again as you get another infection.
I have "athletes foot" now. But with 1 week twice a dsay and 1 week wash, dry thoroughly and reapply.
In total 2 weeks. Mine started itchy and sore.
Only one foot! I dont need to treat the other.
Are you flip flopping about?
Maybe beach or shower and not drying between toes carefully.
Best of Luck.
It is very cntagious. I got it off my husband's feet.
Washing in sensitive washing powder. Standing on a guest towel when you step into the shower.
Change socks and guest towel daily. Socks in hot water and cotton is the best. Sweat can also cause it.
Are you taking antibiotics? Include mushrooms in your daily diet.
Cheri JOY. 73. (NZ)
Thank you xx
Hmm. I've found washing daily the best preventive for athlete's foot, not for toenails though. Agree that thorough drying is needed.
Hi, I have never dealt with that issue, but it just so happens that in July I had to get this for my mom who had a potentially life threatening skin infection from a spider bite! As I read the reviews before making the purchase I saw multiple customers saying that it worked wonders for toenail fungus. This is on Amazon, we are in America, but I can't imagine why you couldn't find it 🙂 good luck and please read the reviews. Also, it helped my mom's wound heal a lot faster than without it. She had two antibiotics and this spray.
Thank you for this!
I hope it helps you 🙏🙂
Just to point out that this is anti bacterial whereas the question was about fungal infection.
This help heals wounds faster, fights some complicated bacteria that can slow down healing and gets rid of fungus. I wouldn't have mentioned it if I was unsure and didn't have some experience with it. As I also said there are multiple reviews on it working very well on stubborn fungal infections.
It says it right on the label even lol. It's not a simple sanitizer. Nooo.
This article discusses some options:
webmd.com/skin-problems-and...
Unfortunately, the 3 month course of tablets (which require a liver/kidney test) are by far the most effective option-other treatments just may not work. I would check with your GP to see whether your particular heart medications rule them out.
Thank you will read that in a while xx
Don't take Clotrimazole if you take Propafenone. Awful effects
Neat tea tree oil twice a day. I used to do pedicures. It's natural and is a great fungus killer.😊
We've tried several paint on lacquer type products, all proved to be utterly useless and a waste of money (some rather pricey). My GP assures me that the only treatment that works is the oral tablets. We've given up bothering, though, as the tablets caused our son's taste to alter for some months and the fungus returned anyway.
Steve
Hi. I was recommended ‘Curanail’ by a chiropodist and I double checked with my GP pharmacist that it was safe for me to use. I’ve been using it weekly for about 6 weeks. No improvement yet but I was told it can take many, many months to clear.
Coconut oil - rubbed in daily
I had a go with the paint on stuff but it made my toes bleed after a while so I gave up. I now cover my discoloured nails with nail polish. I accept this may be a stretch for the men.
I can't help, I'm afraid, but I am reading all the answers with interest as my husband has one toenail that he has been trying to clear of infection for years without success! Hope one of them works for you.
Propolis liquid. It’s what the bees make to keep fungi controlled in the hive. It smells strong but you can dilute it.
The company u can order from is ? Beevita in U.K.
I use it for mouth problems so I know it’s safe with Afib. I had ablation 2018, only get problems with dehydration from IBS.
What strength and how often?
I use about 3 drops in 300mls water for my mouth. I imagine for a foot would need more water. But phone beevital a d ask. They are in Yorkshire. Or email them. There product is quite concentrated so a little goes a long way.
Other propolis I’v bought appears to be very diluted already.
I use it on insects bites and cuts from the garden also, usually undiluted and they heal very quickly.
Lavender essential oil is also very good antiseptic and burn treatment. But always buy good quality, first press oil. High altitude lavender oil is also good.
Hope that helps. Bella
Sorry didn’t say how often. If it’s Candida in the mouth I mouthwash usually twice a day. When it necrosed about every hr. for insect bites or cuts from the garden about twice/ day after cleaning the wound.
I’ve not had fungal nail disease even though I’m diabetic, so fortunate. But I would soak with the foot in a bowl, soften the nail to cut off excess then either soak in the diluted propolis or use it direct in, over and under.
Hopefully the people at beevital can give you advice or put u in touch with a therapist using it.
My very nice chiropodist had now retired otherwise I would ask him.
I have multiple allergy syndrome so can’t take many meds so I have to find alternatives.
Does that answer the query.
Bella
“Beevitalpropilis.com” Whitby Yorkshire.
Sadly my hubby suffers from this and has to resort to Terbenafine occasionally. It does have side effects though. He lost his sense of taste and smell for about 6 weeks. It is prescription only though
I had a fungal infection on my big toe nail for over a year, tried lots of recommended over the counter products, nothing worked. Given tablets by GP but after reading the guidelines, did not use them, I have afib and on a lot of meds. Decided to leave my nail alone and it was coming into summer so put nail polish on my toe nails including top coat etc. When I removed the polish about 6 weeks later, the fungal part had reduced, so continued doing this for about 6 months, and it cleared up. Worth a try, but don't share the nail polish with anyone.
Wonder if the nail polish smothered the fungus? Or kept moisture from getting in the nail somewhat? Or maybe the chemicals in the polish killed it? Whatever it was it worked. 😊
It's under the nail but will try thank you xx
I know this sounds daft, but I found a study a while ago about this. It seemed someone had thought it a good idea to try treating fungal nails with - wait for it! - Vick. As one of my fingernails was turning yukky I had a go and have been rubbing Vick under and on my nail for the last couple of months. And it is working, so I'll keep it up! Not a quick solution but that doesn't matter. Hope this may help.
I use betadine (povidone iodine 10%) after I shower, let it soak in and dry. It works for me.
After I sent a photo of my 2 big toe nails to our GP!!! he prescribed Amorolphine lacquer which did the trick eventually. Hope you're doing well. Lots of love. Jan xx
Vicks vapo rub. Rub a bit under nail top and around edges daily. Will clear only as fast as your new nail grows in.
Thank you x
Use Excilor Extra. My chiropodist tells me its the only thing that works, it did for me.You paint it on the nail daily, rub the previous coat off before you apply, preferably after a bath or shower as it comes off more easily.
You will need to be persistent as you need to continue the treatment until the infected area of the nail has completely grown out. You can buy it online if chemists are not open local to you
I agree with the tea tree oil treatment. You can dilute it. One to two drops tea tree mixed with a carrier oil like coconut, olive or almond oil. Another is 20-25 drops tea tree oil mixed with 1/4 cup water and 1/2 cup distilled white vinegar. This can be put in a small spray bottle. I think I'd put it in a bottle with a lid and maybe brush it on the nails or dab it on with a cotton ball or something. Another remedy that helps some people is apple cider vinegar. The kind that has the "mother in it". Raw unfiltered organic apple cider vinegar. We have Braggs brand here in the USA. And lastly Vicks vapor rub works for some people. The main thing is patience. 😌 Natural remedies can take a long time to work. But worth it as they are not hard on the body when taking other meds. I have a chronic problem with yeast overgrowth (fungal infections) anywhere in my body living in this humid climate in Florida. I used to take Diflucan. But it's hard on the liver plus now it causes my palpitations to be worse. So I go for the natural route. Good luck and take care.
Thank you very much xx
How many times a day do you use Braggs?
I haven't personally used it. A friend of mine did. Remember the natural treatments take awhile and may or may not work for everyone. But vinegar certainly won't hurt you and it also helps get rid of calluses too. You'll want to use 1 part vinegar to two parts water and make enough for a foot soak. Soak feet couple times a day. I would imagine you could dab the diluted vinegar using a cotton ball right on the nails. So it may take several weeks to work. Good luck finding what works for you.
I have 4 toes affected with toenail fungus, been trying to get rid of it for years. I've tried all the treatments mentioned on here except for the tablets. None have worked. Currently trying Gentian Violet. Don't know yet if it's going to work but it makes my toenails a lovely purple colour.
Takes time for the natural treatments to work. Sometimes months. 😕 Don't give up!
Don't eat processed food and throw out any refined sugar . Eat real fruit free from pesticides , and eat only organic meat poultry and pork and your fungus will eventually disappear.
Oregano oil worked for me , started with eucalyptus ( smells so much better than oregano ! ) but it didnt appear to work . I had early stage white superficial onychomycosis so started treatment really early before it spread too much, still took over two months to be satisfied it was gone.
Howmuch and how often?
I used to put a drop on my finger and rub it well in straight after my shower.
In summer I never wear socks so I was inclined to do it a few times a day ,particularly if I had been to the beach.
But as others have said it only shows its working as new nail grows out - months of patience !
HiAdd mushrooms to your diet.
Either raw with salad, added to a steak, meat meal , or stew.
It clears up fungi, bacteria.
cheers JOY. 73. (NZ)
Just to add for those mentioning Vicks. It depends on what type of fungus you have as to whether it will respond to Vicks. The most common culprit is a dermatophyte called Trichophyton Rubrum and this is not helped by Vicks.
Some fungus is yeast based and a small amount have other causes so one size does not fit all.
Some preparations just bleach the nail so you think that it's gone but it's not.
Whatever treatment you use will take months. There is no quick fix for this.😊.
Ok, I’ve found a nail oil applicator from Super drug that has oil in it and added Tea tree oil to it:))
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