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So, after discovering that making myself sneeze stops AFib I have discovered another novel way to stop an attack. It involves drinking a litre bottle of water while holding my nose. It's especially effective if I experience almost panic as I can't get a breath. I don't always finish the bottle but find that's not always necessary to gain the desired effect. Works especially well if I catch an attack early. Don't judge me too harshly

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mjames1 profile image
mjames1

Ken, I would never judge a man who for all practical purposes is drowning himself to come out of afib. I'd call that motivated :)

Jim

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Kennyb1968 in reply tomjames1

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Singwell profile image
Singwell in reply tomjames1

You put my thoughts into words beautifully. But seriously- that's the survival mechanism kicking in big time isn't it?

jeanjeannie50 profile image
jeanjeannie50

Hi Kenny, I only judge you as blimmin marvellous for sharing your tips. Thank you, I'll add your tips to my list if you don't mind.

Jean

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Kennyb1968 in reply tojeanjeannie50

Share away Jean

Anon2023 profile image
Anon2023

Whatever works!! 😊 when I was in hospital with atrial flutter it briefly went back into sinus rhythm every time I vomited or retched, apparently something to do with the vagus nerve!!

jeanjeannie50 profile image
jeanjeannie50 in reply toAnon2023

I've heard that making yourself gag can put you back into sinus rhythm.

Spangle14 profile image
Spangle14 in reply toAnon2023

That vagus nerve, though I'm sure very important, has a lot to answer for!!

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pusillanimous in reply toAnon2023

funny how we are all different. I have asymptomatic Afib (It's familial my sisters and my late father, had it. he died of prostate cancer because of the long NHS waiting list(I have a list of the faulty genes involved in familial AFib. Anyhow, I was diagnosed after I was prescribed an antibiotic that did not suit me, and after vomiting countless times, I vomited flecks of blood, I phoned my surgery, the GP did an ECG, my HR was 140 and I was in AFIB She was concerned about a dissection because of the the blood and I was bundled of to a Cardiologist, shows vomiting had the opposite effect on me, but thankfully led to diagnosis!

GrannyE profile image
GrannyE in reply topusillanimous

At least you had a silver lining

GrannyE profile image
GrannyE in reply toAnon2023

Not sure which I would rather A/Fib or being sick

Erm....I think I'll stick with the sneezing, but thanks anyway! 🤣

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Kennyb1968 in reply to

Wimp 😂😂😂😂😂

in reply toKennyb1968

Try hard 😂😂😂😂

JOY2THEWORLD49 profile image
JOY2THEWORLD49 in reply toKennyb1968

HiI wonder if it has something to do with thyroid TSH level.

The smart not sick thyroid maintains ALL processes in your body.

Keep TSH between 2.0 - 3.0. don't worry about the T3 and T4 levels.

cheers JOY 73. (NZ)

GrannyE profile image
GrannyE in reply to

Preferable. I am afraid when i am sneezing away with my allergies it does not have the desired effect. Pity

stargazer52 profile image
stargazer52 in reply toGrannyE

Me too, I have horrendous body shaking sneezes but I’m still in Afib after 2 months!

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Gumbie_Cat

This reminds me of the cure for hiccups, drinking from the wrong side of the glass. Not that I’ve ever managed to do that. Wonder if other hiccup cures could work - I seem to remember something about dropping a key down your back. Though I could have dreamt that up as it seems random.

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poppystorey

Kenny great idea,2birds 1 stone I have to consume a litre and a half of water a day wonder if it will help my permament AF.Stay well POPPYSTOREY

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Frances123

Thanks and that will be added to my list to try. With some of the other things I usually try I just hope no one ever sees me or they’ll think I’ve gone 🤪xxx

Hilianna profile image
Hilianna

Thanks for the sneezing tip - definitely worth a try!!

secondtry profile image
secondtry

I would welcome more positive experiences.

Spangle14 profile image
Spangle14

I found myself almost looking forward to the next afib episode just so I can try, then I thought, 'What am I thinking!'Thanks for sharing - will definitely try when the unwelcome guest visits again

Glemham profile image
Glemham

That could be good for stopping hiccups as well! However a few sips will do, no need for a litre. Better though to use a straw while pushing your ears in or find someone to do the ears , while you drink some water. It works I promise you. Love the look of surprise after the one of scepticism….

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GrannyE in reply toGlemham

Good grief. Imagine asking someone to hold the ears while you hold your nose and drink. I would think that they would think I have def flipped!

Glemham profile image
Glemham in reply toGrannyE

Obviously I wasn’t clear. Don’t hold your nose as well 😂

Ablation7 profile image
Ablation7 in reply toGlemham

We do this for hiccups and also hold the nose. Also feels almost like drowning. 9 times out if 10, hiccups are gone in a minute.

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oscarfox49

I would say you have just discovered a variant of the Valsalva manouevre. It means effectively you are holding your breath and nose while you drink and is likely to have similar effects in reducing blood pressure and affecting heart rate. But it works! Great!

Singwell profile image
Singwell in reply tooscarfox49

Yes. Primary functioning taking over

GrannyE profile image
GrannyE in reply tooscarfox49

OK I am glad it has a name. Somehow if you can tell people that you are doing a well known manoeuvre called the Valsalva and shame them into not knowing about it one might not feel so conspicuous while doing it in public.

GrannyE profile image
GrannyE in reply tooscarfox49

Just tried that but unfortunately I only managed to drink about half a mug and it did not work. Tried twice. How Kenny could drink 1litre while it is beyond me. Good for him.

Singwell profile image
Singwell

Hey, anything the works!!

RG72 profile image
RG72

I’m sure that most folks will agree that any and all tips are gratefully received. Having a full toolkit of different things to try when the heart goes crazy is great.

ian16527 profile image
ian16527

When I am in Afib I am back and forth to the loo every 20 mins so I will try this next attack😀

MWIC profile image
MWIC in reply toian16527

I’ve noticed that this is the case for me as well - whenever I’m in AFib I have to go really regularly and this is not the norm for me at all- doesn’t this mean there is some impact to the kidneys - any ideas on why this is a factor?

ian16527 profile image
ian16527 in reply toMWIC

No idea, other than there must be some sort of hormone release when in Af from the heart to make the kidneys work. My BP goes up as well so could be something to do with that

Janith profile image
Janith in reply toMWIC

This needing to go every ten minutes or so has something to do with excessive salt being released from the body when in afib. I read about it …

jimlad2 profile image
jimlad2 in reply toMWIC

I believe Afib causes increased release of ANP (Atrial natriuretic peptide) which causes diuresis (more urine) and natriuresis (more sodium) . . .

Auriculaire profile image
Auriculaire in reply toian16527

Huh you're lucky to last 20 mins between trips!

ian16527 profile image
ian16527 in reply toAuriculaire

True but I can be there a while 😀

Jetcat profile image
Jetcat

Keep doing it if it works I say.👍

jd2004 profile image
jd2004

I’ve documented recent struggles with change in drugs etc but I’m still experiencing daily AFib. What I have noticed is that if I lean to the left all hell breaks loose in my chest. I too find myself visiting the loo multiple times so I might as well give the water hint a try.

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Kennyb1968 in reply tojd2004

I get very frequent peeing when I get AFib too

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Letofeyd in reply tojd2004

Weird! Same here! I usually go to sleep lying on my right side, but if I get up in the night , I prefer to lie on my left side when I get back into bed.

I have noticed that often starts off my AF.

At first, I thought it was just waking up abruptly was causing it, but it doesn't start if i come back to bed and lie on my right side. It is definitely the left side that prompts it.

I wonder why?

Jfbould1 profile image
Jfbould1

Love it, can’t wait to try both! Thanks

Jamila123 profile image
Jamila123

Find the cause that’s the best solution

rubyr61 profile image
rubyr61

interesting ,i might try that

Slidingdoors99 profile image
Slidingdoors99

Hey, whatever works I say! I try everything that I’ve read about, but (I know I’m not alone, but I don’t read about many people like me here…) I only convert after a cardioversion!😟🤨

Jajarunner profile image
Jajarunner in reply toSlidingdoors99

Me too!!!

BRHow profile image
BRHow

How does one induce a sneeze?

in reply toBRHow

Pepper

Jajarunner profile image
Jajarunner in reply toBRHow

Pull out a nostrarly (nasal hair)

Kennyb1968 profile image
Kennyb1968 in reply toBRHow

Cotton bud up the nose and wiggle it

AUTigerFan profile image
AUTigerFan

How do you make yourself sneeze? lol

in reply toAUTigerFan

Pepper!

Jajarunner profile image
Jajarunner

Sounds like you are waterboarding yourself! Still if it works why not, sure beats a cardioversion!!!!

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seasicksurf

The bottle of water trick is a sure fire cure for hiccups too. Wonder if the same body “systems” are involved? Apologies to those who commented the same above (lazy me didn’t read before reply).

JOY2THEWORLD49 profile image
JOY2THEWORLD49

HiHa ha.

Too bad I always in AFib with controlled now rapid persistent heart rate!

cheri JOY. (73) (NZ)

Recently had TVT Johnson & Johnson Mesh removal and if I sneeze so glad to have a support panty.

Geeps527 profile image
Geeps527

I have found just holding my breath as long as possible very effective for hiccups and sometimes works for afib. I think it’s a variant of the valsalva manoeuvre.

Jfbould1 profile image
Jfbould1

I forgot to ask, what’s your go-to method for inducing a sneeze?

Kennyb1968 profile image
Kennyb1968 in reply toJfbould1

Cotton bud up the snoz and give it a wiggle

Nigel2000 profile image
Nigel2000

That’s so funny and a good tip. I wonder if old fashioned “smelling salts” would work the same way?

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