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My friend, bisoprolol

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It can get a bad press on this forum at times, but I have to say that I think of bisoprolol as a helpful friend, there whenever I need him, as was the case this morning. I expect I'm not alone!

Steve

P.S. The "48" is one of those blips the Apple Watch is prone to.

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Me too ......... thank goodness !

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The oddest thing is that only yesterday was I saying to my wife how my heart seems to have stopped racing these days, and then, the very next morning... up it goes.

I hope the heat is not causing you too much stress. It seems to have peaked here in Leicestershire at 38C.

Steve

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Hi Ppiman,

Fortunately over the last few days my heart has been spot on - not missed a beat - with a nice steady average beats of around 65 bpm. BP has been a bit varied though but nothing that would send me off to GP ( that'd be a waste of space anyway ).

Temps yesterday got to 25C but with a fair bit of humidity. Hope its cooler for all you guys in the Hot Zone from now on.

John

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Hi John

That's good to hear. I wish I could say the same. I tend not to get AF these days for some reason, last time was early June, but, oh my, those "missed" beats are pretty difficult to endure at times.

Stev e

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I was thinking of everyone down south - hope it’s cooling for you now. Edinburgh was hot, but bearable - and house stayed ok.I am due to get Bisoprolol along with Flecainide as a ‘pill in the pocket’. Just need an echo first. So crossing fingers on no episodes in between.

I get those blips on my Apple Watch and can’t figure what they are. I get worried as they are high blips. Resting rate usually in low 50s, though it was mid 40s on dronedarone. (So glad to be off that.) My blips are very high. I thought they might be ectopic beats, but I’ve no idea. Sometimes when starting an outdoor walk, I get a couple of high readings too.

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Last night was truly awful. I had to have a fan on all the time and earplugs for the hum it made. I've ordered a super quiet Klarstein fan this morning. Let's hope the Germans know how to make quiet fans.

My Apple Watch has always done this. Once I read that for some reason the watch can give these blips at a half or double the actual rate. That seems to fit my experience. Any single blip can't be accurate as the way the watch picks up the beat requires a longer duration. If I get anything odd, I run the ECG app as that is always spot on.

Steve

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Gumbie_Cat in reply toPpiman

That’s reassuring. I’ve noticed that mine are double the rate, and showing as those little dots. I also got a Kardia a couple of weeks back. My watch is an SE and doesn’t do ECGs.

Good luck with the quiet German engineering!

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The SE is a super watch, though. A friend has one. The ECG function is useful when I'm out and about but at home, I tend to use the Kardia. I find both reassuring and useful for relieving stress, rather than causing it as some suggest.

Steve

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Gumbie_Cat in reply toPpiman

I find that too. We’re all different, but I always want to know as much as possible. With moving to a PIP routine, I want to be sure too. I don’t really feel palpitations or breathlessness - more just feeling dizzy and tired, with drops in BP. When first detected by Apple Watch, I ended up browsing my phone and knitting in the hospital , while hooked to an ECG registering 170 highs. Lucky really, but it could still be damaging my heart.

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I think the damage is temporary or reversible normally, well, from my own experience. Keeping the rate down seems the key to heart health. I have branch block, too, so that is an added thing, but there we are.

I'm glad the weather has cooled today. Goodness last night was pretty unbearable here with 33C much of the night and so humid.

Steve

No, you are certainly not alone - I use it (1.25) when I feel things are going a bit fast which can sometimes (for me) be a precursor to a PAF attack …and it almost always helps. Definitely a helpful friend to me too at present.

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Mine rarely changes to PAF, thankfully, although when it does, I can't feel much difference long may that continue so long as the rate stays reasonable.

Steve

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HiI was on metroprolol which I didnt want after a stroke. in 2019. Tried to get it changed.

In Feb 2021 I was changed to Bisoprolol. But although it drove down my heart rate.

From 186 to 156 H/R avge day.

Uncontrolled and cardiac sp not assisting I went private.

Great.

CCB Diltiazem 120mg am and Bisoprolol 2.5 p.m

H/R day is 77-88. BP 123/72

Since started CCB in December 2021.

Bisoprolol left but separated is ideal for A.F folks.

NZ should change their regime from Metroprolol to Bisoprolol as first call after a stroke.

Unfortunately increasing Bisoprolol did nbot beat my rapid persistent H/R.

On CCB 1/2 dose 180mg t dropped 105 within 2 hours to 51.

At night my avge is 47. It stays there.

It seems we are all different.

You can only blame it on Bisoprolol if that is the only med you are taking.

I don't have any side effects.

cheri. JOY 73 (NZ)

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Ppiman in reply toJOY2THEWORLD49

Hi Joy - I read once somewhere that in New Zealand doctors prefer nebivolol, with bisoprolol in the Uk and metoprolol in the US.

Steve

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Auriculaire

I think Bisoprolol can be a helpful friend if used as PIP for fast afib . But taking it everyday for me was not tolerable.

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Ppiman in reply toAuriculaire

Luckily, I need eat only PIP. I think if I had to take it regularly, my heart rate would drop too low.

Steve

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