Ectopics again

[Padayn01]

Anyone get ectopics when walking? Are they worse if you get them when you move rather than being still?

[Padayn01]

yorkcardiology.co.uk/ectopi...

Just answered my own question

[Jalia in reply to Padayn01]

Thanks! I found that interesting as one who has only recently been affected to a troublesome degree with ectopics. I've had more than my share of AF/Flutter over many years and had multiple ablations and dc cardioversions plus every drug known to man 🙄🤒

[Padayn01 in reply to Jalia]

Have they recently started your ectopics?

[Jalia in reply to Padayn01]

Yes, in the past few weeks

[Padayn01 in reply to Jalia]

Yeah they are very distracting and horrible just can’t get my head round them I’m still waiting results from my 7 day holter monitor

[Jalia in reply to Padayn01]

I know that they are harmless ( usually....) but they can still be very alarming. I sent a 30 second recording from my Kardia for analysis just for reassurance really and report came back with a yellow 'multiple atrial ectopics, see your physician within 24 hrs " I was back to normal by then so of course didn't bother.

[Padayn01 in reply to Jalia]

How many will you get a day roughly and do you take anything that makes them slightly better

[Jalia in reply to Padayn01]

I wouldn't be able to count they are so numerous ! I take Bisoprolol 1.25mg as a PIP and increase as necessary

[Padayn01 in reply to Jalia]

Do you get relief with the bisraprol?

[Jalia in reply to Padayn01]

Yes, and like Dangerousdriver stress and lack of sleep are triggers.

I also take magnesium glycinate which I consider has been instrumental in reducing my AF episodes

[Coco51 in reply to Jalia]

What dose of the mag glycinate do you take?

[Dangerousdriver]

Yep, me! Never used to but in the last 8 months when I’m walking especially if I’m carrying something like shopping I get them. I take 1.25mg Bisoprolol night and day and this helps to regulate me. Stress, lack of sleep etc will usually make mine worse. I get weeks where I get loads then nothing at all but the odd one here and there.

[Padayn01 in reply to Dangerousdriver]

You take any magnesium for them ?

[Dangerousdriver in reply to Padayn01]

I have, I tried Mag Taurate but it doesn’t work for me. But that’s not to say it would for you. Many swear by it and say it has practically cured their symptoms.

[Padayn01 in reply to Dangerousdriver]

Been on it a week notice some difference but might be placebo effect

[Coco51 in reply to Padayn01]

What dose do you take?

[RexH in reply to Dangerousdriver]

Hi,

Just on ectopics, I get them almost constantly, except according to the halter monitor, when I am asleep at night.

When I go for a walk I feel the heart seems to be more steady, as if when I put it under load, it seems to help.

Had an ablation 4 years ago.

My electrical cardiologist says must keep on my pradaxa, and if I can't keep up with my wife on walks I need to go back and see him, otherwise will see him in a year.

Definitely stress is bad, and lack of sleep.

I no longer wear a Garman as only causes stress.

[Padayn01 in reply to RexH]

Is there anything you take that can make them better? How long have you been suffering with ectopics after you abalation?

[RexH in reply to Padayn01]

I can't have beta blockers, as they make my heart go too slow. .So I only take a magnesium supplement, magnesium chelate 1000mg,

I don't know how much it actually helps, but even if a bit, it's worth having.

I have had ectopics ever since the ablation, although now much more frequent.

When I had the ablation, took over 5 hours, and the cardiologist isolated 3 short circuit, but couldn't do the 4th, said getting too tricky, so problem probually relates to that.

The positive side of things, is I can still do most things, such as walking , and we have a hobie kayak and can still use that.

[Padayn01 in reply to RexH]

So is there any other meds your on like flacinide or anything? So what’s your EP now saying another abalation or just live with them?

[RexH in reply to Padayn01]

I am just on pradaxa, a must. Saw cardiologist last week, has said I am on a slope down hill, but seeing I am able to live reasonable well, and if I can keep up with my wife when going for walks, he will see me in a year's time.

[Padayn01 in reply to RexH]

What paradaxa? Dint think I heard of that, how far do you and your wife walk?

[Rubyray]

Can you explain to me how an ectopic heart beat feels?

[Padayn01 in reply to Rubyray]

Just a very unpleasant feeling that lasts for a second

[Coco51 in reply to Rubyray]

To me it's a lurch in my heart rhythm like I might experience if I had some bad news. I feel the extra beat like a thump, but then I feel a pause that follows the extra beat so I feel as if my heart has skipped a beat. It's very unsettling and makes me feel anxious.

[Padayn01 in reply to Coco51]

How many would you get a day?

[Coco51 in reply to Padayn01]

Well sometimes a succession maybe 4 - 6 a minute for several minutes or even hours. It can feel a bit like AF. Sometimes just an odd one. Other times none that I'm aware of. After one holter monitor reading the EP said I'd had 2000 in a day.

[Padayn01 in reply to Coco51]

Do you take anything for it like magnesium

[Coco51 in reply to Padayn01]

I rub magnesium oil in my skin every day. That is said to be a better way th absorb it at cellular level than tablets which people say can give you the runs. (At least that is what it says on the packaging - but who to believe? There's so much money to be made from all these supplements!)

Frankly the AF bothers me more than the ectoptics when it gets going, pounding away. I have had a run of it this week after a wasp sting. So I am considering trying Magnesium Glycinate now as recommended by Sanjay Gupta. Researching doses.

What dose of Magnesium Taurate do you take? Has it affected your digestion/ bowels?

[Padayn01 in reply to Coco51]

I take 2 tablets of magnesium taurate for about a week now by bio care, bowel movement is normal for me although stools can be quite firm

[Coco51 in reply to Padayn01]

I will give it a try. Two tabs what strength?

A wasp sting has triggered a week of AF episodes for me. Apparently the histamine your body makes in reaction to a sting causes inflammation. So I am wondering if continuing Piriton antihistamine would help....

Btw FYI I am on Flecainide Bisoprolol and Apixaban for AF. Plus BP meds. Had 2 ablations after AF went 24/7 for months on end. The second worked well. But I still need the Flecainide.

Anyway the Mag Taurate sounds worth a try. Thank you.

[Padayn01 in reply to Coco51]

2 tablets is 146 mg

[Padayn01 in reply to Coco51]

Quite a low dose considering

[Padayn01 in reply to Coco51]

biocare.co.uk/magnesium-tau...

[Coco51 in reply to Padayn01]

Thank you!

[fifitb]

It is s wobbly feeling, fluttery.

[Daisee1963]

Hi Padayn.

I get ectopics every time I stand up, walk, eat - basically whenever I move.

I generally don’t get them when I sit completely still!!

Over the past 4 years the ectopics have come and gone- this bad episode has lasted for 8 weeks now and really getting me down.

I’ve just paid privately for a 7 day monitor in desperation to see what (if anything) is going on.

Usually by the time I get to see a cardiologist the ectopics have died down but luckily this time it was bad for the whole period including really fast irregular runs that last 20-30 mins that sometimes wake me in the night.

I have also been getting 4 and 5 ectopics in a row which feels horrible and again new with this episode.

It will be interesting to see what the report comes back with.

I’ve got a consultation with Dr Sanjay Gupta shortly.

My cardiologist wants to put me on Flecainide- I’m so worried about taking tablets!!

I started taking magnesium glycinate 3 weeks ago but not noticing much of an effect. (200mg a day)

Every day I wake up hoping they’ve gone but by the time I’ve cleaned my teeth know it’s not the case 😢

[Padayn01 in reply to Daisee1963]

Oh wow so similar to my situation everything you describe is exactly what I’m going through the only thing is I get mostly mine when at rest I also paid Dr Sanjay Gupta Privately for a 7 day holter monitor, I used to take magnesium glycinate made no difftrence but switch to mag taurate made some difference please let me know how you get on with your results, have you also got AFIB?

[Padayn01 in reply to Daisee1963]

Also why do you not want to take flacinide?

[Shcldavies]

I believe that ectopics when you start putting greater pressure on your heart can be a sign that your heart is irritated by something which may go away if you resolve the irritation (as well as what Dr Gupta says). Possibly electrolyte imbalance or too much sugar or food preservatives. The main contenders for Electrolyte imbalance are taking PPIs, low iron, low magnesium, low vitamin D and low potassium. Also irritation somewhere else in your body can also irritate your heart. No answers I am afraid but something to consider for you personal condition.

[Padayn01 in reply to Shcldavies]

Do you take any stuff for electolyte imbalance?

[Shcldavies in reply to Padayn01]

I take magnesium (a mixture - but not oxide) and eat a banana a day and an avocado at least 2 times a week and I have halved my PPIs (omeprazole). I limit my sugar intake and foods that contain preservatives (thats difficult as so many do including wine and beer). I also drink more water and especially first thing in the morning before anything else. I have also found leaving 12 to 14 hours between the last meal in the evening and first the next day may help - it certainly helps with weight loss and digestion.

[Shcldavies in reply to Shcldavies]

I meant to say that electrolyte imbalance can be very different for each of us but magnesium is a good start as many are deficient due to the food most eat, iron deficiency is also a common problem.

[RexH]

Both, but I think sometimes when doing steady exercise tend to be more even, and when asleep at night perfect no ectopics at all.