What are your thoughts on 'ReMag'?

[DaveT81]

Against by better judgement, and a lot of information I'd read online, in my desperation, I ordered some of the 'Magnesium Miracle' called ReMag.

Now, many of the reviews for it that you'll find online say it has literally worked miracles for people with all kinds of illnesses, including afib (ectopics) and ME. Both of which I have and am struggling very badly with at the moment.

I've had zero success in finding a decent way to take magnesium that reduces ectopics. Tried all different forms orally, flakes, salts, and decided to try the liquid form I'd heard was meant to be amazing. However, it contains a lot of lead. A downside, for sure. But, as I said, I was desperate.

Anyway, I tried it this morning. Literally a 1/4 of a teaspoon in a litre of water. I had about 6 sips over a 45 minute period and ectopics increased, had slight palps and just felt very... weird. A generalised weird, in all honesty. I've put it in the fridge and I'm just drinking normal water now. Tried mag water a few days ago too which gave me bad reflux.

Anybody had any experiences with ReMag? I've heard good and bad things, the good sounded too good to be true. I'm wondering now, whether they were!

[BobD Volunteer]

After 75 years I have realised that if something sounds too good to be true is usually is.

[DaveT81 in reply to BobD]

Well you still have about 30 years on me. So I have a bit of learning to do.

[Ppiman]

Suffering ectopics and fatigue on a regular basis, I can truly sympathise with your plight, but the science on magnesium points to the plain facts of the matter that, except in specific and unusual illnesses, a deficiency is rare and a normal diet has plenty. Green vegetables are full of this important mineral, all forms of magnesium are well absorbed and the body contains its own large reserves in the bones. Intravenous magnesium, given in ICU for arrhythmias, works entirely differently and to draw the conclusion that oral magnesium is in any way similar to this is the kind of pseudo-science that has spawned a multi-million pound placebo industry. Of course, if taking a placebo works for a person, then they are lucky indeed.

Steve

[Dodie117 in reply to Ppiman]

I’m not sure that this is the case. Farmers are still being encouraged to give magnesium licks to cattle as low magnesium levels in grass causes many problems including death. Many scientific papers on low magnesium levels in plants due to farming methods and climate change.

[Ppiman in reply to Dodie117]

Well, unlike old cows, we don’t have a rumen 😉. Our small intestine is super efficient at absorbing magnesium and there is a large store in certain bones.

All green vegetable matter contains magnesium a-plenty. Do you have evidence otherwise?

Steve

[Dodie117 in reply to Ppiman]

Hi. I wasn’t challenging you. I come from a farming background and see plenty of discussion about how modern farming methods deplete the soil of magnesium and therefore the grass and plants that grow in it.

For example

ecofarmingdaily.com

[Ppiman in reply to Dodie117]

I would think the quantity of magnesium in some parts of the country might well be reduced owing to intensive cultivation, but if a crop is green during its growth, it surely contains magnesium as it is part of the green chlorophyll. Many soils contain magnesium from the rock layers, too, and I gather acid-rain has been blamed for its depletion from there, also.

As I see things, the problem with looking at a single mineral, such as magnesium, is that it is a part of a whole set of other linked aspects. Calcium, potassium and vitamin D will most often also be low in people who have genuine magnesium deficiency, for example.

There are certainly plenty of clinical trials on the internet that suggest some form of magnesium deficiency is a commonplace but I've read others where the authors think otherwise. For whatever reason, I tend to agree with the latter but it is a very safe and cheap mineral, and green vegetables contain so much else that is good, that there's no reason not to take your magnesium the natural way.

Steve

[Mity3 in reply to Ppiman]

Except that people on city water with chlorine (which kills the good bacteria) have problems with digestion.

[Mity3 in reply to Mity3]

Rephrase. May have GI digestion problems as all the good bacteria in the gut that breaks down food and other such things...is dead or imbalanced because of the chlorine put in (since in the good ol USA, we drink the same water we pee in!)

[Ppiman in reply to Mity3]

You'd maybe agree that the idea that the chlorination of water is dangerous is debatable (mind you, I disagree with flouridation, myself). A water filter will remove the chlorine, though, I think?

All water on the planet has been through a sewer, I imagine!

Steve

[Mity3 in reply to Ppiman]

Well, yes I do agree for the most part but...her in USA, in may places because of heat, you can smell the chlorine and it is extensively used. They also do NOT filter out the drugs. For example, prozac comes out in urine essentially unchanged. The water treatment facilities do not filter out the prozac thus, everyone on the city water is on prozac! Now imagine all the drugs in the water that are not filtered out and the synergistic effect that has and wow, water can be a drug! We use a very deep well with a filter and then reverse osmosis on top of that. Unfortunately, it does not discriminate as to what minerals, metals, etc. may be removed.

[Ppiman in reply to Mity3]

You make a good point about drugs - hormones, too, I imagine (now you’ve got me thinking - nitrites and nitrates, as well). Hmm. Hopefully the water companies have ways to dilute these things to safe levels.

Steve

[DaveT81 in reply to Ppiman]

I have IBS, reflux and general stomach issues, so I have low magnesium levels, as I can't properly absorb enough from food sources. Also, my diet means that I can't always eat foods that are rich in magnesium. Hence supplements.

[Ppiman in reply to DaveT81]

That’s bad luck, I have the same conditions sadly, although no absorption problems as evidence from blood tests. I might be wrong but I understood that most absorption occurs in the small intestine which isn’t usually affected by digestive issues, except rare inflammatory conditions.

Steve

[secondtry]

I use the spray-on skin and rub-in version called Magnesium oil and the ingredients don't show any lead.Re testing your level, there seems to be some lack of clarity; GP's in the UK normally sanction a test which almost always results in an OK level, hence their reluctance to use it. My Naturopath says the test should be a 'red cell' test, which I have had using a private clinic every 6 months over the last 3 years and remain at the bottom of the accepted range when to prevent AF I should be at the top. I can't get my level up despite taking a Mg compound, spray on Mg oil and eating lots of organic/homegrown veg etc.

[DaveT81 in reply to secondtry]

Yes, my levels are always 'OK' whenever I've had it tested too but my general health, heart health and fatigue would suggest otherwise. I may well see a nutritionist or a naturopath myself, as no type of magnesium ever seems useful for me.

I may try the spray next, actually!

[Hidden in reply to secondtry]

My doctor concurs that blood levels of magnesium are very different from cellular levels. My son always got diarrhea, even on low amounts of Mg, so he tried ReMag, both the liquid and the skin lotion. They worked well for him and within 3 months his testing showed the cellular level of Mg had increased, but still not enough. He will be retested after the pandemic.

[Mity3]

My afib disappeared in March of this year. I added supplements as well as a paleo diet. The most important supplement I found was magnesium. I use magnesium glycinate from pure encapsulations (3 per day) in addition to Neuro Mag (2 per day). I also use zinc (zinc deficiency can cause symptoms of afib---which I find VERY interesting as my afib came out of nowhere in August of 2019).

[Mity3]

VERY interesting because the cv also has symptoms of afib and, zinc seems to be helpful for it! In otherwords, I think our minerals are off kilter. With the magnesium, I also no longer have chronic constipation! A general rule of thumb is you can take the amount of magnesium to the level of diarrhea...(diarrhea defeats the purpose but to that point should be okay).