My husband and I differ - I hate using solid soap and he liquid and is quite convinces that liquid soap is not soap so believes that only ‘soap’ should be used to wash hands. I find cleaning up the messy residue tedious and believe it is the perfect breeding ground for certain bacteria and possible vehicle for passing on the virus?
Thoughts?
Agree.
If it’s possible for your dog to have pups, I want one!
He is my bestest friend. My granddaughter’s dog but she is at school.!!!!! Poodles are so loving not at all the fluffy Pom Pom people see them as. His parents were amazing. He is my AF and sadness therapy dog. But.... his bits have been removed. Shame as I’ve had many dogs but he is the best. I’d love another I’m smitten. So easy to train too.
Oh well, it was worth a try!......enjoyyyyyyy and stay well.
You too keep washing the hands and smiling.
Plenty in the rescue centres.
I have 2 rescue dogs and 2 rescue cats. But I do like small poodles (black or chocolate) They are as bright as buttons and as mentioned in one of the posts - don't shed hair
Lovely little dog. I love the way (most) poodles are cut now, so much more attractive than the Pom Pom look that went hand-in-hand with a very sharp muzzle. My pooch is half poodle, half working cocker and I adore her!
They are so loving and obedient. He knows everything I say. I could eat him.
They don’t molt either. Just groom it out. Yes the cuts are better. Wish I had a big house I’d have lots.
I prefer liquid soap too!
Just got the alovera antibacterial soap yesterday few ppl recommended it for me!
Sounds nice
Divorce! 😉
Not a solution - pun intended!
All the signs suggest that liquid soaps are more hygienic but then I was brought up on green slabs of Fairy Soap and I don’t recall there being too many epidemics either.
If you lather up well the soap breaks down the outer skin of the bugs and the hot water kills em! Or at least that's the plan so any bugs on soap should suffer, mind you a good lather!
Sorry - still not convinced.
Ah well it all depends on how old the product is. e.g. Hand sanitizer can go off I understand. Used to use bars of coal tar soap in the cattle barn when I was growing up, with cold water, had a healthy childhood!
Coal tar was in our house too - I hated it.
Same in our home.....
...and ours !! Husband would like Lifebuoy soap in shower if I could get it😕
Obviously a man thing.
My hubby even goes so far as to scorn modern soaps ie Dove bars. “They are not proper soap. I must have Imperial Leather”.
Ha! Yes...they are obviously cut from the same cloth!!
Thought I was married to a "one off"until I read these comments. Actually my OH would like Carbolic soap if I could get it . Sadly not (😃)
Or even Wright's Coal Tar, wonderful stuff!
I agree with you CDreamer, bars of soap are breeding grounds for bacteria and the pump for soap touches no part of the human body.
Mind you, saying that, we were all quite robust in the days when the family all used the same bar of soap. We all used the same flannel and tin of toothpaste too! Sounds quite revolting now doesn't it!
Are you referring to Gibbs dentifrice (tin) Jean per chance ?? Quite forgot about thst !
Yes, it was certainly Gibbs, all we children shared a tin. You had to rub your toothbrush on it. Back then you only cleaned your teeth in the morning. If we could get by mum and out of the house without doing that or washing we were pleased! My daughters, when they were young, thought I had a second sense because I knew every childhood trick.
Absolutely! I used to put my son in a headlock to get his teeth cleaned in the morning 😁
We’re the same CD, I prefer the liquid, but my husband reckons that solid soap rinses off better and is self-cleansing lol
I hate the way a little pool of jelly forms undeneath hard soap (..shudders)
When given hard soap for Christmas I put it with the sheets in the linen cupboard to make them smell nice then later put it in gargage to use on sticking doors 
Well at least we all wash our hands after pressing the pump....
Liquid for me! Soap scum in hard London water is yuk.
But I remember my kids doing a comparison for bacteria removal in science lessons at school. The hard soap had a lot of bacterial residue in it and the tests showed their hands were less clean after using it.
I prefer soap and liquid soap comes plastic containers so another thing to recycle.
Not always - I use glass dispensers & local shop refills them - several here do that.
Mother Earth certainly does.
Oh that’s good. I haven’t seen that in my area yet although I can refill Ecover washing liquid, washing up liquid and toilet cleaner but not aware of anything else so far.
Things are slowly improving. Mind you I only heard through friends - never seen any advertising for it.
Ah but I go down to my local Zero Waste shop and just fill up the plastic soap dispenser time after time after time, as I do with the body wash containers for the showers.
I’ll go one better. Don’t wash your hands never bath or shower then no plastic to throw away then my carbon footprint will be good but .... 👣 very dirty and smelly job done. Now about AF!!! 😍
Nice one
I don’t think we have a Zero waste shop yet where I live. Haven’t seen or heard of it yet if we do. There is a whole food cooperative who do some refills and a local supermarket chain does a limited range of ecover refills.
And when the soap goes so small it’s unusable? And scummy?
Interesting the gender difference preferences. I wonder if that has something to do with the fact that men don’t ever clean up the scum from surfaces, tiles etc? 🧐
Same at our home. Im a fan of liquid in shower and handwashing. ( and laundry detergent) Also it doesnt carry the bacteria load that bar soap can.
😂😂🤣
Snowflake. Lol.
Actually, no, I'm offended that your offended. How dare you be offended etc, etc, etc.......... Lol.
I banned my husband from using solid soap in the shower and for hand washing some years ago as the clearing up afterwards due to soap scum is ridiculous. He’s now a convert to shower gel & liquid hand wash.
Solid soap is a germ factory and sucks moisture from your skin - my hands just crack if I use it.
Environmentally? If you buy recyclable refills it reduces the impact.
Pat x
You must tell me your secret, I have failed again. The only time my OH goes out voluntarily to shop - is when he runs out of solid soap and returns with a crate full - so he doesn’t need to go out again for the next 5 years. 😔
Has anybody noticed.....no comment from BobD, obviously never washes. 😂😅😂
Refuse to clean the bathroom until he relents or better still, lock him in there with all the cleaning products and🧽🚿🛁🧴. Throw out the soap as fast as he buys it🤣x
Oh, fighting talk
i think soap is messy! But the liquid squirter sometimes you get the aim wrong! It squirts on your sleeve! Grin!
Solid soap washing by sink , shower gel , solid soap if in bath
I always use the liquid soap for hand washing, but my hubby always uses the solid bar of soap.I too wonder if it is a gender thing🤣He also has a habit of leaving the soap in the bottom of the sink after he has used it, which I find most annoying .Even after 41 years of trying to train him otherwise 🤣.
Same here. Wife likes solid soap and I like liquid so we have both. Wife assures me that solid is best and cheaper! So can't understand why I, as a born and bred Yorkshire man won't use the solid soap. LOL. So long as you wash your hands thoroughly it shouldn't matter.
I like it, whatever rocks your boat
See the following from the New York Times:
google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nyti...
The article refers to a study done in 1965? It also refers to bacteria - not viruses.
Whilst it may be true I don’t think it will alter my preference for liquid soap which I find more convenient and much less messy.
Hiya, I used to sell foam / liquid soap as a rep years ago and we always used a piece of solid soap in our presentation showing and explaining the little black lines that appear in a bar of soap was bacteria and not at all advisable to use. I am going back nearly thirty years long before any of these viruses . In public try and press a pump down with your sleeve and use tissues when opening toilet doors, normal healthy tips when out and about . X
"Experts" (in the paper) always seem to disagree about this but they all seem to agree that using anything that is antibacterial can encourage resistance. Otherwise, action-wise soap is soap whether it's liquid or solid. It does discourage bacteria and viruses, but doesn't kill them outright, the important thing (it says here) is to wash thoroughly and rinse well. If he leaves his soap in a mess, why not ask him kindly but firmly to clean the sink I am a hard soap user, my mysband likes liquid soap but we both clean the sink down though I admit I am the one who takes a scrubber pad to it now and then, but that is for the limescale. Soap residue is messy but shouldn't form if the soap bowl is kept clean and dry, and at least there are no plastic bottles ... so I think it's 50/50! BTW I used Imperial Leather for decades but then a few years ago they changed the forumula and it started dissolving much faster and yes leaving messy residue behind, as well as not lasting well. Apparently in some parts of the world they use it for laundry soap and like it to foam, but it was no longer so nice for personal use so I switched (to whatever was good value and a nice colour at the time).
You can get a dish for bars of soap where it does not get messy.
Put it in airing cupboard if you have one to dry out a bit - not encouraging you though 😒
is there some connection to soap preferences and a-fib that i have missed lol
Just had the pleasure of watching a short skit on tv ...with a guy instructing the kids on how washing their hands should be done...and he had a special torch to shine on their hands to see how they'd done...just kinda gets to us old guys and gals that we could be looking at some new level of qualifications in the future...why, yes...I have an 'O level' in hand washing and I'm back at night school doing a course on 'putting soap where mummy used to when I was younger'....lol
I use a bar of soap. Not keen on liquid.
I prefer solid soap. Apart from the advice for hand washing as a means of not catching the virus it is counterproductive to be worrying about removing bacteria from our skins in general. Our skin has a microbiome just as does our gut. Removing it with ever more efficient soaps ( in particular antimicrobial ones) is actually unhealthy. We have lived in symbiosis with trillions of bacteria for millenia. "You need to eat a peck of dirt before you die" is an old saying . I deliberately eat nuts after coming in from the garden without washing my hands ( even with gardeniing gloves my hands still get grubby) as spore bacteria in soil reinforce the microbiome. Most of us have had multiple assaults on our gut microbiome from antibiotics taken since early childhood. Modern notions of cleanliness encourage damage to our skin microbiome too. Most liquid soaps are full of chemicals and to me smell horrible ( I do have chemical sensitivity that comes and goes as a result of being floxed- I can't stand being close to women who wear perfume and even find the smell of some washing up liquids overpowering). Nobody has suggested the use of povidone iodine for hand sanitising in this coronavirus epidemic. This is probably the best way. Before my colectomy op I was given a bottle of stuff with this in and had to wash my hair and entire body with it. There are lots of scientific articles online about it's efficacy in killing bacteria and viruses.
Not surprised a cake of soap harbours bacteria; when I went to church as a child, the soap in the loo was covered in black lines. I used to try and wash the soap before I washed my hands with it.
This might seem like "too much information", but solid soap IS liquid soap at the point of application...eg I rub solid soap on my pubes to liquefy /foam it, and at that point it's the same as shampoo or liquid soap... I feel sorry for these models that are pubeless coz they have don't even have under-arm fuzz to use for that purpose. I am told that German ladies don't have these problems and have instant access to foaming tools.....
Yep, sounds like that's your lot then and you've had it!!Been nice knowing you. 😉
F
For Lifebuoy soap, try Amazon or The Vermont Country Store.com. , has a lot of retro products from " soup to nuts " . I think I saw it in the catalogue. Not absolute but worth a look. Camay is hard to find too but sometimes I see it at the $0.99 store. Good luck.
We use both ... depending on which bathroom we are in ... we have five bathrooms ... l like dial antibacterial bar soap on my sink and bathtub ... we use antibacterial pump soap in two of the guest bathrooms ... my husband uses both on his sink and his shower ... l rarely visit the bathrooms in two of our guest rooms. So, we essentially use both but our preference would be a bar of soap for body cleaning and pump soap for hands. It’s all very confusing. I do now wear black medical gloves when going out ... l try to color coordinate ... l tend to wear black 90% of the time so the gloves look really cute and l actually get compliments on them!
Love this post "Soap and Poodles" do these provoke Afib too or am I off subject 😂
Laughter is always the best medicine.
It surely is my friend! 🐩😀
Poodles calm AF.
Yes 🐩 😀but caring for animals generally is marvellous!
Good for health. And you walk lots. Unless we reach lockdown. 🐩 ♥️
I'll just walk around the garden 😀 yes it is such good exercise and! I have a steep hill behind the house which keeps my heart and lungs busy lol! X
Yes. But tomorrow it’s walkies. A hill is good get the heart pumping. But not too much. Keep it in NSR. 👍🏻
A surfactant, whether solid or liquid, changes the surface tension of water so that it more readily wets what needs to be cleaned. No matter which type of soap you choose, especially when washing your hands, it is more important to be thorough and rinse well.
I’m sure it is, the rinsing is more important I get that - but it was a bit of fun and hopefully lightened people’s day/week-end and that’s also really good for AF!
😄😂😂 Spot on - but the government ain’t worried as they’ve made loads of money from the soap factory and the tax on the alcohol and from the overworked bar tenderer AND far fewer old crocks to look after! Maybe it’s conspiracy? JOKE!!!
Soap is anti bacterial. I prefer solid bar. I feel liquid soap is just chemicals and very drying. I make soap. I have created a bar with oat and goats milk. It is not drying. I have a bowl filled with medium sized stones on my sink. The soap bar just touches some points on the stones so it dries without any scum..
I’m not offended but offended that men don’t clean the bathroom ever. My son did wipe the shower though😇
Well said. When you ask a woman a question she says what you want to hear but it’s not always what she means. You men are meant to know that as you won’t get the truth. Men are from Mars women are from Venus. Females can work males out. But men just don’t have knowledge to work us out. Hope I’ve not been offensive to men. !!
Oddly enough ... l read yesterday that solid soap will clean your hands better than liquid soap and that bacteria collects around the opening and inside of the mechanism?
We are. So glad you have recognised that. !!! Of course we are related. The superior sex. 🙃
We are all doomed. 🥺😱😷
Nothing like a slab of coal tar soap for this boy, CD!
I'm afraid I am with your husband. Couldn't you two compromise - let him use his solid stuff, then send him away for retraining on the cleaning up process
John
Glad you have admitted it. 🙃
Since the last few days I've been talking to someone who understands the chemistry and he's clarified one or two things.
Any kind of soap will kill most bacteria and viruses. It cracks their structures. Rather like it dries out your hands or faces if you don't rinse well.
Soap doesn't harbour any usual bacteria (or viruses). If you leave sludge around it might - the same goes for the inside of liquid soap pump nozzles.
Soap kills bacteria and viruses just as well as hand sanitizer. (I didn't know that.) It's just you can use hand sanitizer in places where soap and water aren't available.
Any time you are using soap, rinse well. If yo don't you will get chapped hands. Same does for washing up liquid, another form of detergent. Anything that damages germs will also damage your skin, so rinse your hands well after washing. (My hands have survived decades of washing up like that.)
And rinse your bar of soap/squeezy bottle/taps etc so that you don't leave residue.
Soap with a lot of hand cream included (no names, but some are well known) doesn't clean well as the cream protects the germs as well as your skin.
You can use alcohol (not alcoholic drinks, not strong enough) but if you do, use hand cream afterwards or it will dry your skin out badly and cause chapping. (This is why proprietary hand cleaners are best. They include a bit of measured skin protector.)
Nice article in the Guardian covering some of this at
theguardian.com/commentisfr...
All very simple yet rather complicated! None of this works internally! If it kills a virus, it will also harm you --- this apparently is why anti-viral medicines are so difficult.
Haha, my brother and I differ, I hate using solid soap and he liquid. I don't know but for me the solid soap makes my skin dry, I tried different kind of solid soaps but anyway I hate using it. And I consider that using a solid soap can transmit different bacterias but with the liquid one it's much easier. Since I use only liquid soap I noticed that my skin is much softer and I adore to touch my skin, it's pleasant. I suggest to everyone to try the liquid soap if you didn't do yet. I procure soaps from this page aussiecandlesupplies.com.au/, it has a huge variety of products.
Taking Symbicort and AF
Had ablation done on 24th January now suffer with acid reflux I think 
Long term study… sugars and artificial sweeteners increase risk of AF
Natural Cures First I would think.
