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It’s been almost 4 weeks since my ablation. I’ve been back to work building houses full time and feel fine. Sweat all day in the 100 degree heat and heart rate in the 100s all day. I’m still on atenolol 12.5mg twice a day and Eliquos twice a day. I’ve read all over the internet there’s really no certain time you can have a beer or a glass of wine if it didn’t bother you before afib ablation. I’ve just been to nervous to drink anything. But the reason my EP and I decided to do the ablation was because I told him I’m young and I don’t want to quit drinking alcohol. I enjoy my social activities with friends. I guess my question is I’m back to normal with everything else in my life. Riding Harley, working hard, swimming, lifting heavy objects. The only thing I’ve restrained from was alcohol. I do not smoke or do Drugs. It would be nice to know if anybody on here that enjoys a drink when they had their first drink after their ablation. As there is no information or research on the internet.

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It very much depends on you as an individual, what other people have done will not really apply. For me alcohol was a trigger so I gave up at age 30, I have not touched a drop in the last 24 year's. Like you I didn't want to stop drinking as all my mates drank and I loved a beer but sometimes you reach a crossroads and I chose my health. Everyone is different though and you might be fine, I would ask your arrhythmia nurse or EP if you intend to drink again...good luck whatever your decision.

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Edstiffler13 in reply todjbgatekeeper

I told them I was going to drink. And that’s why they did the ablation so that I could. Did you have an ablation?

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djbgatekeeper in reply toEdstiffler13

Yes I had an ablation September 2018 as my condition slowly progressed to a point where my quality of life was poor. The problem is an ablation is not a cure, it's a stop gap that gives a reduction of symptoms. How long the benefits of the ablation last is a lottery and somewhat depends on how you look after your heart. If alcohol was a trigger for you historically then you will probably regret going down that road again, it's a stimulant and one of the most common triggers for AF and arrhythmia. If you want the most out of your ablation do everything in moderation, keep fit, eat well and listen to your body if it complains. Good luck.

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Dslokes in reply todjbgatekeeper

Alcohol is a depressant, not a stimulant.

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djbgatekeeper in reply toDslokes

Its both actually:

Although classified as a depressant, the amount of alcohol consumed determines the type of effect. Most people drink for the stimulant effect, such as a beer or glass of wine taken to “loosen up.” But if a person consumes more than the body can handle, they then experience alcohol's depressant effect.

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Edstiffler13 in reply todjbgatekeeper

Whenever I drink my heart rate speeds way up for some reason? I think it’s a stimulant??

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djbgatekeeper in reply toEdstiffler13

The same used to happen to me when I drank, I would wake up in the night with a heart rate about 130 bpm and sometimes completely out of rhythm which is why I stopped alcohol and Caffine. It's a shame but I had no choice really in the end.

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Edstiffler13 in reply todjbgatekeeper

Why does alcohol raise our heart rate? It’s supposed to relax us? What the heck

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djbgatekeeper in reply toEdstiffler13

Yes it's a curse ! But everyone's body reacts differently to all kinds of things.. Nut allergies ect ect.. You have to play with the hand your dealt with sadly 😋 it only took me 10 years to stop missing a pint lol

Ed, you ain’t gonna like my reply.

Whilst you make it clear all the things that are important to you, the sad truth much of what you are doing is very likely going to wreck your ablation. Ask yourself what is more important. Taking the time and effort to do the right things to give yourself a chance to get your life back or carrying on doing the exact opposite. How bad was the bruising in your groin area? If it was bad there, imagine what the inside of your heart must have been like after several hours of being prodded and poked, burned or frozen and here we are only 4 weeks later ......well, you don’t need me to remind you that you’ve only got one heart....your decision of course, all we can do is encourage you to think again before it’s too late.....

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Oh course the bruising was horrible. But my decision to have an ablation was based on me being able to drink. I wouldn’t have had the ablation of it wasn’t going to fix the afib. I have to work so that’s not an option to go all out with my heart. The drinking is Definetly not a big deal. I just want to know when the heart is actually healed all it’s going to heal? My doctor told me theoretically it’s already fixed right after surgery. Except the healing part is what takes some time. I’m almost 4 weeks out with no pvc or any arrhythmias. I had my first ablation SVT and aflutter 4 years ago. And I was back to social drinking in a month and havnt missed a beat since. The MAIN question is when is it safe for me to travel out of the COUNTRY and not worry about going into afib in some strange place. That’s why I had the surgery

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dleppard60 in reply toEdstiffler13

The drinking is likely why you needed a second ablation. I just had my 3rd. I used to drink a little when I would go on cruises and every single time it triggered my afib. I had my 3rd ablation on June 10th and now that I have had time to heal I feel AMAZING. My heart rate was always in the 50s and my BP high after my second ablation and I was always tired and sluggish. The was April of 2018 so as you see it was only 14 months before the third. I changed EPs before my third and I am doing so great I wouldn't think of touching alcohol, caffeine or sugar as I am only 55 and completely DO NOT tolerate afib. Living with permanent afib like my mom does is my biggest fear.

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Edstiffler13 in reply todleppard60

2 different ablations. First one was for AFLUTTER and SVT not afib.

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Oldiemoldy in reply toEdstiffler13

In answer to your question: my EP and the medical site posts all say three months is the healing period. That’s how long it takes for the scar tissue to form around the holes the doctor burned around your heart.

You seem to be one of the lucky ones who felt ok right away. I was an unlucky one who had a very hard first six weeks.

But the time for the scar tissue to form seems to be the same.

As for travel outside the country, ask your EP. my own advice would be to make sure you have excellent travel insurance including medical IF you can get it. And try to stay out of strange emergency rooms - you may be over treated. I’d probably try to wait out an attack if possible until I could talk to own doctor or nurse.

I won’t get into the alcohol debate / we had a huge discussion last week on another post. But make sure you are totally honest with your EP.

Good luck!

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Edstiffler13 in reply toOldiemoldy

I had 2 beers tonight and I’m laying down getting ready for bed. It actually lowered my heart rate to 65bpm right now🤷🏼‍♂️. I guess I will see tomorrow how I feel. I don’t want to over do it just social drink.

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Kaz747

I had a glass of Prosecco last week- nearly 4 months post ablation. I generally don’t drink now but I would like to think I can enjoy an occasional drink on special occasions. 🥂🍾🎉

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Bambi65 in reply toKaz747

QOL... ! If it includes wine, then go for it. My afib was not affected by alcohol.

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Jjda

It is very individual, but I enjoy my wine, but refrained for 6 months after my ablation. Now I enjoy a glass of red wine every so often (two or three times a week), but do not overdo it on any given day. I would recommend refraining for at least 3 months. And then you may find you do not crave it as much as you used to.

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Edstiffler13 in reply toJjda

I don’t like alcohol but I love social drinking lol.

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Jjda in reply toEdstiffler13

I have found that if I bring a bottle of wine to a function, and a couple of seltzer waters, it helps if I have a glass of wine followed by a seltzer, followed by a glass of wine, repeat. At least I am not dehydrated!

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Jjda in reply toJjda

But I want to emphasize that I do not do this every day. Over the course of a week I may have 3-4 5 oz glasses of wine. It should never be a daily habit, regardless of Afib or not.

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Edstiffler13 in reply toJjda

I know this sounds bad. But my EP is straight forward and pretty much said it’s either gonna work or it’s not. And he said yes their is a healing “blanking” period. But if the ablation was successful I shouldn’t have any afib after having a few beers even this soon after surgery. He said I didn’t burn all of those circles around your pulmonary veins for them not to block the bad signals. He’s very confident lol! He said yes it’s healing but you still should be healed. And he said if it’s gonna happen it’s gonna happen. Better to know now so we can setup another surgery. He says we want to fix this for good not tip toe around problem trying not aggravate your heart. He said if you wanted to worry all the time then you should stay on medicine not get an ablation. So I figured I may just give it a shot here soon and see what happens 🤷🏼‍♂️

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dleppard60 in reply toEdstiffler13

My EP said...If you go back to the same habits, the AFIB will come back. And he was right twice. You do you, but I just can't take that risk. I guess you can always have a third ablation.

in reply todleppard60

Before you try any more ablations, try this (it's free):

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer. If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt??

Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer

in reply toEdstiffler13

Before you have another surgery, try this:

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer. If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt??

Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer

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Jjda

Well, best of luck. Let us know how you do!

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Edstiffler13 in reply toJjda

I will chicken out but I will let you know if I have a couple beers! Thanks for the information!

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Paulbounce

Hello Ed.

I can`t really add much more to what`s been already said. I too enjoy a beer and find 2 or 3 beers fine - moderation is key.

I slipped a little yesterday (much to my shame) and had a few more over the day. In the morning my heart rate is normally about 60ish. I checked this morning and it was 80 BPM. It had an effect.

I`m very angry with myself as I`m doing so well after my CV. My rate has gone down now but I`m still annoyed with myself. It won`t happen again - I got away with it this time but might not be so lucky next time round.

One other thing - some people find one drink will kick it off. All I can suggest is (if you have a beer) is to do it in moderation. Never binge drink as this can really trigger afib.

My last point is to wait longer for your heart to heal before you have a drink. Personally I think I would wait at least 3 months from having the ablation.

Regarding travel. I`m an complete travel bug. I checked with my cardio / doc / nurse and they all said flying is fine - even long haul. I`m abroad now in a hot climate and have had no problems at all with air travel.

Best,

Paul

in reply toPaulbounce

Alcohol makes you dehydrated, and dehydration triggers Afib. Here's what I found:

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer. If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt??

Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer

Rule of thumb I drink about half what used to and that seems ok, basically on a night out maybe five drinks tops, anymore and it puts an appearance in !

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Alcohol makes you dehydrated. Check out what I found:

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer. If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt??

Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer

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Morzine

Gosh you have done well to be back at work and doing everything. I think you must be young...us older ones take longer! I do so understand your alcohol questions....a lot of us loved our wine etc before this happened.....I think it is very much down to each of us as individuals with how it affects.....ive read here some folk it affects and some it doesn’t......yes me too I was worried it would affect my ablation.......I had a glass of beer three months after mine, as a test I suppose.....I now do have a glass or two of wine if I want,, I’m six months after post ablation.....I’ve nit gone any further than that as I’m scared too....but thats me. I do think the advice to drink water as well is good advice, I read it and I do do that now...I have my glass of wine and my water bottle.....

As for holidays.....well I think if you’re feeling fine you go for it..... my theory is life goes on.....If you have insurance then you’re covered. I don’t know where you live but Europe has reciprocal health care and so there’s no worry’s there....I am in France.... I’m feeling confident enough, that I’ve booked flights to go to Australia.....I have read in here lots of folk travel ok.....

Sue

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momist

Well . . . I've not (yet) had an ablation, and I've stopped drinking as it has recently started to kick off my AF. However, for the first couple of years I still drank beer, wine and sometimes spirits, and it did not seem to trigger my AF then. As a keen real ale fan, I even went to beer festivals. What I did was to take a large bottle of water with me, and drink at least one glass of water for every beer, or wine, that I drank. That seemed to work then (but not now, as I said). If you are having a beer with your mates, it might be a good idea to do something similar, and see how it goes.

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Sounds like your drinking was making you dehydrated, and supplementing it with water cured that. Check out what I have found:

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer. If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt??

Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer

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Flyer2820

Hi Edstiffler13

My cardiologist told me to not drink caffeine or alcohol. I now drink decaf coffee and as I only drink a shandy or so a week and occasionally wine, I ignored that. I don't seem to be affected by that amount but I have to say, if I did, I would stop altogether. It seems to me that, as I have, you have already decided to have a social drink or two, but remember that if it causes you greaf, it's not worth it. I can make a fool of myself without alcohol and it's much cheaper. These days nobody bats an eyelid at people who don't drink while they do, and if they are your friends they will understand and help you. As for travelling. GET ON AND DO IT. You have to enjoy something.

Good luck for the future. Hope all goes well.

Regards Flyer.

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Dodie117

I had my one and only ablation in 2013 aged 63 at the time and am AF free so far 🤞. I do drink - not a huge amount but probably hit the 14 units a week some weeks. I have never found it a trigger. However, I would advise caution. Maybe try one or two units and see what happens. Monitor yourself carefully and be honest with yourself.

I can’t remember how long after the ablation I had a drink I think about 3 months

No binge drinking!!

Get a kardia and check if you feel anything unusual.

Only my experience- not an expert!!

Good luck🍀

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Athina777 in reply toDodie117

Hi lallym, I happened to read your reply. Great to hear you have been AF free since 2013 and after one ablation. Do you remember how long it took you to recover and know it was successful? When did you go back to feeling normal after the procedure and did you continue with medication during the blanking period? Are you in any AF medication now? Thanks so much! Wishing you continued “freedom” from AF for EVER!

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Dodie117 in reply toAthina777

I experienced lots of arrhythmias and bumps after my ablation and for a while thought it had not worked. However gradually the intervals between episodes grew longer and after about 5 months stopped. By now I was starting to feel a lot better. It took a few weeks for me to realise I hadn’t had any episodes. It took almost a year for my resting heartbeat to return to pre ablation levels. I really never tried much medications. When diagnosed, my EP gave me a choice -med route or ablation and I opted for ablation. I was on bisoprolol for about 6 months whilst waiting for ablation slot and stopped bisoprolol the day after the ablation. So no meds except anticoagulant. I am on apixaban.

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Athina777 in reply toDodie117

Thank you very much!

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MarkS

I had an ablation 10 years ago and I restarted my daily glass of red wine a month later. So far so good but alcohol was never a trigger for me anyway.

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Dslokes

I had my ablation in March, and enjoy alcohol now....

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Edstiffler13 in reply toDslokes

That’s great news! How soon did you have your first beer?

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Dslokes in reply toEdstiffler13

I’d say about a month after....

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allserene

I eased back to beer gradually and now I know 2 pints is fine. On Thursday I got back from an intensive trip to England with lots of heat and rushing about on tube trains and driving all over the south coast...All in 7 days with 2 lots of jet lag plus heavy cases etc .. I was drinking 2 pints every day...no problema. Yesterday I mowed my 2 acres in Wisconsin in 90F .... Still no prob. Everyone is different but going at stuff gradually and building up confidence is the way to go...

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Edstiffler13 in reply toallserene

How long have you had your ablation?

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Ianc2

Major trend in UK towards low/no alcohol beer . Try ghost ship 0.5 per cent by adnams. Good stuff.

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Edstiffler13

That is what my doctor said and your the first person to say exactly what he said! He said it didn’t cost $50,000 dollars not to fix your problem. The reason you had it done was so I could social drink with my friends again. He said if you go into afib again we will do another ablation. But I didn’t know how soon I could have a few beers with my head being burnt inside??

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Edstiffler13

I mean heart being freshly burnt inside for 4 weeks. What do you drink and how often? And what do you consider binge drinking? Thanks

Alcohol tends to make you dehydrated, and that will trigger an Afib episode, plus the sugar in it will also trigger Afib. But to mix pills with alcohol --- whew -- better check with your doc on that one. As far as sugar and dehydration triggering Afib - below is a cut-and-paste of what I have learned on that:

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer. If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt??

Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer

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In my case beer and wine was never a trigger...I had my ablation six months ago and had my first beer two days after the procedure. I continue my usual two beers each evening with no problems.....AGAIN BEER WAS NEVER A TRIGGER FOR ME.

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Did your resting heart rate Change after your ablation? Did it rise? Or did it beat faster when you exerted energy for a while after ablation?

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I was on flecainide and Diltiazem for 60 days following my procedure so during that time I did not notice a change in my resting hr. I am quite active Nordic skiing in winter and cycling in summer. The most noticeable change was my resting hr remained fairly high (85 - 95) for several hours after strenuous activities. My cardiologist told me this should normalize with time which it has. Yesterday I cycled 35mi with 1600 feet of ascent and my resting hr was at my typical 64 writhing and hour after the ride.

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Edstiffler13 in reply toGetoutside

That makes me feel better! That’s exactly what my heart is doing. Staying higher longer after activity before coming down. My resting heart rate was about 54 before ablation. Now I can’t get it below 65. Even on a beta blocker

I haven’t had an ablation, so I cannot comment directly. However, low alcohol consumption (meaning up to 4 drinks per week) shouldn’t cause problems unless it is a known trigger for you. Post ablation it shouldn’t be a problem either- if the alcohol does trigger AF that likely means the ablation was not successful.

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I agree. If a couple beers caused afib that’s not good. Alcohol wasn’t a trigger for me anyways.

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I have given alcohol a miss for 6 years now. One sip of prosecco, I will say it again, one sip of prosecco triggers my afib. As soon as I swallow it and it enters the blood stream and is quickly pumped through the heart, bingo, I'm in AF. I hope all goes well for you.

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I'm a nurse that had an ablation back in October. I've been on rate control meds (Flecainide) since before the ablation up to now. I've talked with my Electrophysiologist about consuming alcohol. She advised me to do so in moderation. Red wine used to give me palpitations and skipped beats, so I don't really drink it anymore. However, I do have a couple of beers throughout the week (probably 2 a sitting, twice a week) without incident. You must be careful on beta blockers, that your blood pressure doesn't drop too low. Different healthcare providers will tell you a variety of things, so you've got to do what you think is right for your health. Read up on the drugs you're taking from reputable sites. Drugs.com is pretty good at breaking things down in layman's terms.

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