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Is this where we're going wrong -Your opinions on this please

Could this be a reason why so many people get sick? I saw this talk re wearing rubber soled shoes ages ago and it really intrigues me. Have a look at the first talk Voie Nature, sorry you need to have a Facebook account to see it:

facebook.com/VoieNature/vid...

For those of you not on Facebook please have a look at this link provided by CDreamer:

groundology.co.uk/

Jean

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Yet another use for duck tape!

Interesting theory, take it all with a pinch of salt but will try it, many thanks for that jean, shared it on FB

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I thought it was interesting that the man telling the story said that when he was young he'd had an Indian friend who lived in a tepee and his mother had told them to take their shoes off, or they would make them ill. So many people today wear rubber soled shoes.

Jean

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I would've commented sooner but I've been walking around amongst the daisies on the lawn - it's worth a try 😊. I must say, one of my favourite feelings is walking barefoot along a beach.

I've shared this with my daughter in New Zealand whose family often walk about outside without shoes ... I've promised her I won't disapprove anymore! 😊

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It's a remedy that does no harm, unless you tread on a thorn or wasp! I'm certainly going to keep it in mind. I'd get wet feet if I walked on my lawn right now, so I'm envious if you can do that. Think I'll take a stroll to one of the nearby beaches tomorrow.

Jean

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What’s up with wet grass, always loved walking to toilets on camp site down cornwall, IN BARE FEET, always made me feel hungry though!

Smell of the bacon cooking lol

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Bare feet on the grass fine, but in the toilets, no!!! Lol.🙄

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Bacon cooking, now that's a different story - yum! Nothing quite like that smell is there!

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Sorry about your wet grass - the rain has held off here so far but thunderstorms forecast tomorrow.

It’s a lovely thing to do - only reason I disapproved was the kids cutting their feet so often, but I think the soles of their feet are like leather now 😂

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Thanks Jean for reminding us about this. Its weird we tend to ignore the simplest possible remedies with no cost or side effects but still try all manner of other supplements and drugs with plenty of issues. I will be doing this as often as I remember this summer and wet grass should be a great conductor to increase the benefits as walking through an incoming tide on the beach.

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I agree with you, people often do ignore the simplest remedies. I like ones like this that don't involve using any medication that may cause harmful side effects.

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Food for thought indeed, I lived in Spain up in the hills for 6 years, most of which were spent bare foot, I never had cause to see a doctor during that time....just saying. Food for thought Jeanie, thanks for bringing it to our attention. Dee

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The beauty of this remedy is it's not harmful - unless you tread on something when walking barefoot!

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Very interesting, I used to spend a lot of time outdoors barefooted and always very comfortable doing so, and have a longing to do that again. Over the past thirty years, I've lived in a town, no real access to places to walk barefoot and my health has deteriorated so gradually I thought maybe it was natural; I have MS, heart problems, diabetes, all slowly getting worse with associated pain. Maybe it's worth trying reconnecting to the earth going barefooted, I'm willing to try anything to make life better, even if my neighbours think I'm a bit crazy.

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Yes, I'm always willing to try anything natural that doesn't have nasty side effects like prescribed medication can. Listening to this talk where native U.S. Indians believe wearing shoes could make you ill has really made me think about the electrical build up in our bodies and the need to discharge it into the ground.

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Very interesting Jeanjeannie50 and I was almost convinced then I looked at my dogs paws and wondered why it doesn't work for dogs. They don't wear shoes so are always grounded, but still get ill.

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Yes, a good point re your dog, but does it sleep well and have energy?

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She does but I believe it's more to do with what she eats which I have researched.

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Thanks for posting this Jean - thing is - whether or not you ‘believe’ it - it cost you nothing to try it and see if it helps.

I am also intrigued by this but it does make sense to me, especially when we are surrounded by so much electro magnetic interference. I first came across this about 20 years ago when participating in a Shamanic group and like many things, forgot about it but have recently returned to the practice.

I spend 10 minutes per day with bare feet on the grass in back garden, usually 1st thing and when in the house prefer to go barefoot. I was thinking about looking at buying a grounding mat but want to do some more research. I sort of know when my energies are out of kilter that is what I need to do. I think our body really know what it needs - we just don’t listen hard enough.

CD xx

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Yes, I love simple remedies like this that can cause no harm and believe we really need to get back in touch with the healing power of nature. I've thought about buying a grounding mat too, may need one in the winter months. I just wonder what it would be made from - plastic?

Jean x

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It's interesting and not something imo to be lightly dismissed as crank thinking. Many an idea/thought have been laughed at over the years, only to be lauded for its simplicity at a later date, simple ideas/thoughts are often the best. Having said that; I would not fancy going to bed with a conductor anchored to the outside linked to my bed - one bolt of lightening and I would think that I would need a new bed/me. I would also say (I have no electrical knowledge by the way) that it really is in the park/lawn type of grounding, as tarmac/concrete walkways/walking around the inner home would not quite be the same.

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I'm just wondering if gardening with bare hands could have the same effect. I always wear gloves, though they are natural leather ones. Hmm, but then I'm mostly holding a gardening tool, like secateurs, trowel etc. No, discharging electrical energy that way wouldn't be favoured by me. Tree hugging comes to mind!

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groundology.co.uk/ Although selling products, some quite interesting information. Interesting how Dr Sinatra’s name keeps reappearing everywhere I look these days.

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What a mine of information CDreamer! I would urge everyone to take a look at the link you've provided.

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I'm not sure that any of this is true, but for many years I have hated wearing shoes.

It all started when I was a surfer in my late teens.

I go barefoot as much as I can, my family think I'm bonkers :D

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The beauty of this remedy is it's natural and what have we got to lose by trying it - absolutely nothing.

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"Tree hugging".........that could be misconstrued and get you locked up 😁 - pass on that one😉

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I did it once just for a laugh, but you know what I think there could be something in it! I always keep an open mind.

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Really? How can 'tree hugging' be misconstrued? :o) You simply hug a tree :o) Although, if you really want some people to think you're a bit eccentric, then you need to have a little chat with the tree first, to see if its okay with being hugged. Some trees aren't. So you have to sit with your back to the trunk and commune with Nature that way. There you go - you can phone for the men in white coats to come and get me now hehe.

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They are on the way lol

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You've made me laugh. I think I need the men in white coats without the tree hugging.🤔

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I'm just feeling a bit cheeky this morning. Still enjoying the benefits of the spiritual healing work I did a few months back.... here in Spain we celebrated Sant Joan last night, I ate and drank what I wanted, and danced wildly til 4am.... and still no AF woohoo. I got into bed this morning and thought, well if I expire tomorrow at least I've had a bloody good party!

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Pleased to hear you've been able to survive a wild night out!

Those were the days my friend

We thought they'd never end

We'd sing and dance forever and a day

We'd live the life we choose

We'd fight and never lose

For we were young and sure to have our way

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Never mind young, I'm a 54 year old granny and still enjoy a good party woohoo :o) After spending the last three years having to just sit and watch everyone else dancing or stay at home in bed with an AF episode... feel ecstatic that I can now join in again.

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Interesting idea - can’t get on the link but from reading replies I’ve got the gist of what it’s saying. Wonder if There is a link between walking barefoot and the fact that some have reported fewer afib episodes in summer when I expect more people spend time barefoot - (remember you saying jea. That you thought the link could be looser clothing).

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Have a look at the link that CDreamer has provided above.

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Yes I did take a look at that👍🏻

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A good point of yours relating to less AF attacks in summer and the greater chance of being barefoot then.

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Does lying on the grass/beach count - maybe with a cotton sheet underneath ??

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Sorry, I really don't know, but walking along the beach barefoot would certainly help. Not heard from you for a while, are you keeping well?

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Hiya. Yes, still around and keeping well thanks for asking. Still in nsr almost 6 years post ablation. Hope all good with you but i do read your posts.

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Wow, 6 years! Who did your ablation procedure?

All is well with me thanks, but I'm just nearing 6 months AF free.

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Mark O’Neill in St Thomas’ in London. So far so lucky🤞.

Six months is a great start so hopefully it will continue.

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A good recommendation then!

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Yes, walking bare feet along the beach with the sea lapping at my feet makes me feel so good.

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Yes it does

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😀 great.

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I'm so lucky now, living in Spain, and being part of a village community that is 50% 'hippies'. Barefoot Earth connection is understood deeply here.

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Hmm, I like the sound of that. I live near a town which we refer to as the resting place of the hippies.

Do you do B&B? We could all be out with you very soon. ✌

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no we don't :o) The hippy community here are v mixed from very young to more elderly, lots of families, really found my tribe! The local ajuntament is so eco friendly and actually a real democracy. Brilliant, makes all the difference to quality of life.

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I think you need to start a B&B....😉

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Hopefully in the future... at the moment I have more than enough to do trying to keep an eye on my elderly mother!!!

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My ex husband was lucky enough to go trekking in Nepal many years ago when he was in the army. He was accompanied by a couple of Sherpas who went barefoot all the way over the rough terrain of the Himalayas. He bought them some trainers as a present lol 😂 but they packed them away in their bags. No need for shoes when you’ve developed tough feet!

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Amazing isn't it! Must be nice not to have to wear shoes, but my goodness the soles of the feet would have to be really hard to resist sharp sticks etc.

My sister has trekked in Nepal, but I'm sure she would have worn some type of walking trainer. I must ask her what her guides wore on their feet, if anything.

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Verrucas and dog muck and chewing gum ? Nope I will keep my shoes on lol...... Seriously I don't do conspiracy theories and/or California style 'nature' /earth mother stuff. My rotting stinking toenail fungus that I had for 20 years was cured miraculously with Lamisil. The internet is full of dire warnings about how it poisons your liver etc but I had zero side effects and it was 3 years ago and my toenails have remained beautiful ever since. That taught me that modern science and the right chemicals can be enormously beneficial and to ignore all the doom and gloom 'out there' gang on the internet... They are the same pop-eyed long grey-haired druid freaks who dance around Stonehenge on the solstice with hawthorn hedges stuck in their hair. Unfortunately the whacky theory merchants are the vast majority online and the sensible people just go with science, take the right pills, and then get on with their lives. I was trained as an inner city police officer at age 19 and I was from Yorkshire, so I see life in a stark and non-credulous way which has served me well. I resigned from the Primitive Methodists in 1958.

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Confucius he say, easier to wash dog poo off foot than off shoe 😂

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Ah so...Confucious never walked with bare feet past a convenience store on a council estate, otherwise he would still be tweezering broken glass out of his tootsies... Course, in the dream world, there are only fragrant meadows full of butterflies and daisies and pink clover. and nobody knows the squelch and pop of a soggy used condom twixt their toes......

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Confucius he say be selective where you walk, never walk barefoot in rough place for fear of nasty thing between toes 😂

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Seriously though I wouldn’t call this anything like a conspiracy theory. To me it makes a lot of sense and is worth looking into.

The hippy thing is just a bit of fun x

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I have known a few hippy women in my time but no hippy men except one who owned a carpet company and wanted to cut down on the raw materials to save the planet (and increase his profits). He got many awards for being such a caring and wonderful human being. He handled the PVC so much it gave him cancer and he died.... and his wife is running around barefoot at Sandals Caribbean resorts with his money. It is true that death shortly awaits 100% of people who don't walk around barefoot...

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I’m definitely in the long, grey haired Druid freak category & frequent Stonehenge at solstice - barefoot. 🤭🧝🏻‍♀️

AND I follow the science & treat both with a lot of skepticism and an open mind. 🤔

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Think I might know you. Do you have a fat Geordie boyfriend with a big beard who thinks he is a Viking and calls himself Ragnar ?

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Nope - he’s a littl’ Irish fella - dresses all in green & specialises in horses talk.

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My great grandad a was a fugitive Irish sheep teef from Dublin called Moichel Casson... so we are almost related....

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Nope, can’t be - I’m a Lancashire lass born and bred. Now living in Devon.

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My last address in the yookay was Darwen, Lancs (resident 10 months), and I am forever emotionally scarred (and soggy)... Darwen Jubilee Tower is one place nobody should go barefoot... Do you not think so ?

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My son and family live quite near - next time I visit I will try it and let you know....

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Thanks so much for this Jeanie. I am already convinced that being around electronics has an impact on us and our health, and remember reading about people who's af was triggered by electronics. One guy had changed his life by removing as much electrical energy from his home as he could. I have identified my own increased af after using a tablet for any length of time.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the increased contact with personal electronics has run alongside an increase in af in the population. I thought the images of the changes to the blood were very interesting and a bit startling, and might show why stroke and heart attack numbers have steadily increased in recent times.

Anyway, I intend to stick an earthing rod into the garden as an easy way of grounding myself occasionally, without encountering dog poo. I'm far from being a crank or gullible. It just seems so logical once it's pointed out.

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I heard of this some time ago and it makes sense.

Here's a link to a TED talk by Prof G Pollack where he talks about his discovery of a fourth phase of water and its uses. It will get you thinking...

He ends the talk by recommending "earthing" as a health benefit.

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Thanks so much for posting, really interesting video which as you say, makes so much sense.

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It appears that grounding is already a popular idea among the experts. I wish I'd spent longer with my feet on the grass now, only did about 2 minutes. Will do more tomorrow.

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Hopefully from this topic we'll find a woman that's wired up properly and knows how to "conduct" herself - if you're looking for me.....I'm out of the country lol 😉

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Just an anecdote... I had the pre-af flutter earlier. It always results in an af episode. Went to my metal railings by the back door, grounded myself by touching them (like a lightning conductor) and came back inside. Nothing in the half hour since. Just saying.

(Actually I accept that it's probably psychological, but given that I always imagine AF as random electrical over-activity, then why is it crazy to think that discharging or re-routing the body's electrics might have an impact?)

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Amazing, or does it just show the power of our minds? If it works for you a second time let us know please.

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I have watched many of the video's made by Prof Pollack and have got half way through his book on the subject (hard going for my little brain at times).

I started making my own "EZ water". I filter water to take out the chlorine etc, cool it to 3 degrees and then use a near- infrared lamp on it.

It really is amazing stuff and has a lot of health benefits. It changes water from H2O into a structured water that is H3 O2 and is a great energy provider.

Google Gerald Pollack if you are interested.

I also use the lamp on its own to help with problems that friends and family have and have seen some good results.

I can write a fuller explanation if anyone is interested.

There is evidence that dementia may have a link to a virus. My wife has FTD and so I am using the near infrared lamp on her as red light at 1070nm wavelength has been show to kill viruses and improve the quality of life of dementia sufferers. The Quietmind Foundation is currently testing this out and the initial findings are positive.

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Would standing a glass bottle of water in the sunshine do the same thing?

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