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My wife always buys me a paper when we go shopping "to keep you quite" and yesterday bought the above.

I note an article which finally agreed that the UK medical authorities have said that aspirin is of no use in stroke prevention and should not be taken indiscriminately on a daily basis as many people have been doing as it causes harm to many. (Yes there are cases when it is desirable when it would be prescribed by a doctor).

Before we put the flags out I also note that our colonial cousins across the pond have not had the benefit of this advice.

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wilsond profile image
wilsond

Well perhaps our friends over the pond might be able to query their use of aspirin now.....

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sweetiepye

Our Doctors no longer prescribe an aspirin a day especially if you are on a blood thinner. What was prescribed and still might be in some hospitals is one baby aspirin Change is every where..

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Maura5

Yes, I admit to reading that paper yesterday too 🙈 interesting article, strange why medical opinion on aspirin is so different across the pond.....

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Well they are a relatively young nation. lol

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pottypete1

Didn't realise that you actually read the Daily Fail Bob.

This article does seem to address an issue that we have discussed before but as we agree you have to take so many of these articles with a very large helping of salt.

Pete

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Chicohamilton in reply to pottypete1

And salt is very bad for blood pressure!!! Simply can’t win !!!

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Hilly22

I read that on the front page of my husband's telegraph yesterday Bob (not my choice, more of a guardian/independent person myself!). But I found this article in USA Today, written a few months ago, so I think they already know.

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...

I wonder how long it will be before they all change their minds again xx

If my wife bought me the Daily Hate she would be my ex wife

I am across the pond, my cardiologist has me on small dose aspirin and xarelto. I do not take the aspirin because I see no medical evidence supporting any good reason to take it. I have no other heart issues besides paf. Ironically he wont allow me taking any nonsteroidal anti- inflammatory meds for my arthritis but thinks aspirin is harmless. SMH! I would love to switch docs but they are the only game in town, EP attitude now is if I dont want to pursue ablation, he isnt too interested. So, I get along. My primary doc who specializes in integrative medicine is actually more helpful.

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I like the sound of integrative medicine. How does it work in practice?

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I copied and pasted the definition below. I use my doc to filter thru the nonsense the heart docs throw at me. My guy was a traditional emergency room doc for 20 yr, now he did a residency with Dr Andrew Weil, the " guru" of integrative medicine. He is all about healthy everything, food etc and also supports traditional medicine like anticoagulants with a fib, etc. He is like an advocate for me in the confusing world of medicine. The only thing Im unhappy with is he wants me to get to normal BMI weight!!! No healthy fat people in his view, lol.

"other words, integrative medicine “cherry picks” the very best, scientifically validated therapies from both conventional and CAM systems. In his New York Times review of Dr. Weil’s latest book, “Healthy Aging: A Lifelong Guide to Your Physical and Spiritual Well-Being,” Abraham Verghese, M.D., summed up this orientation well, stating that Dr. Weil, “doesn’t seem wedded to a particular dogma, Western or Eastern, only to the get-the-patient-better philosophy.”

So this is a basic definition of integrative medicine. What follows is the complete one, which serves to guide both Dr. Weil’s work and that of integrative medicine physicians and teachers around the world:

Integrative medicine is healing-oriented medicine that takes account of the whole person (body, mind, and spirit), including all aspects of lifestyle. It emphasizes the therapeutic relationship and makes use of all appropriate therapies, both conventional and alternative.

The principles of integrative medicine:

A partnership between patient and practitioner in the healing process

Appropriate use of conventional and alternative methods to facilitate the body’s innate healing response

Consideration of all factors that influence health, wellness and disease, including mind, spirit and community as well as body

A philosophy that neither rejects conventional medicine nor accepts alternative therapies uncritically

Recognition that good medicine should be based in good science, be inquiry driven, and be open to new paradigms

Use of natural, effective, less-invasive interventions whenever possible

Use of the broader concepts of promotion of health and the prevention of illness as well as the treatment of disease

Training of practitioners to be models of health and healing, committed to the process of self-exploration and self-development."

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Aprilbday profile image
Aprilbday

Sometimes I wonder about these studies and who benefits from them the most: usually the money trail leads to the big cooperate stocks of pharmaceutical companies.

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BobDVolunteer in reply to Aprilbday

But if they are saying don't take them how can big pharma be behind it? I suspect the continued use of aspirin in US may be connected to money.

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Jjda

This colonial cousin was advised of this by my EP at the first visit. Of course, he is another colonial cousin from further east, so maybe he had advanced warning. :) I also read that the benefits of reducing inflammation via aspirin may be over stated, but low dose aspirin is still prescribed routinely for those not on blood thinners as a guard against heart attacks in those with high cholesterol.

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Norm

Hope you are well Bob. Re yours and Sweetiepye. Aspirin is perscribed by doctors for along with warfarin. Was told Warfarin is anticoagulant and aspirin helps stop platelets sticking. This because of my OHS and arortic valve replaced. But I had afib at the time. Still on medication but lost afib in November 2016 with cardioversion. Very blessed but still waiting for the afib to return. Also take Lansoprazole to help stop aspirin problems in stomach. So I have both 'blood thinners' and aspirin.

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Quite normal with stents and artificial valves but not for lone AF which is the point I have been making for the last few years.

Maybe they're worried we won't be able to get any after *shudder* brexit so are putting us off it now.

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BobDVolunteer in reply to jedimasterlincoln

We have been saying this for many years now so nothing to do with politics. Don't even joke about that.

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sugaredalmonds

🤔Is this the DM article you are referring to Bob?

dailym.ai/2S27Wnr

An interesting read, & so are the comments/opinions of the readers.

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BobDVolunteer in reply to sugaredalmonds

yes.

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sugaredalmonds in reply to BobD

& today, same newspaper, same med:

Daily aspirin could boost survival rates from head and neck cancer

mol.im/a/6632149

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seasider18

I started taking a 75mg aspirin on a daily basis in the early 80's when I had no health problems as all doctors/cardiologists were supposed to be taking them at that time to ward off future heart disease. Now they have changed their minds. Now many cardiologists are taking a daily Cialis as they are good for the heart. I was never happy with Warfarin and NOAC's were contra indicated as I have a tissue aortic valve. I stopped/ started Warfarin from 2012 going back to aspirin until I had my Amplatzer amulet fitted in 2017.

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