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How many people find caffeine triggers their existing arrhythmia?

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A bit of a random question, but since my diagnoses of an arrhythmia SVT I have not consumed caffeine (Too Frightened). I am a coffee and cola lover and I absolutely love my americanos, cappuccinos and a good lattee :). I have since only drank decaffeinated ( One a day only!) and I cant say I mind much as it tastes decent.

I am off on a months trip to bali and I will ask for decaff but I am assuming there would be times where I will be served a normal caffeinated coffee due to language barriers or normal barista coffee shop mix ups.

I am just curios at how caffeine affects different people who have arrhythmias, Obviously I am going to consume a caffeinated coffee and see how I go beforehand and ask my cardiologist what he thinks. But I don't feel caffeine was ever a trigger for my arrhythmia.

How does coffee affect your arrhythmias, do you feel its a trigger?

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TamlaMotown profile image
TamlaMotown

My heart thinks it's the Flying Scotsman after caffeinated coffee with AF ๐Ÿ˜“

My son has SVT & he can't drink it now either

Maybe you are a lucky person that it doesn't affect

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply toTamlaMotown

Gosh sorry to hear that, I hope I am indeed one of the lucky people unaffected but knowing my luck I wont lol.

Will soon find out when am brave enough to take the test.

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BobDVolunteer

Since my last ablation eight years ago I don't have AF BUT if I have two coffees inside an hour I feel hyper for the rest of the day. I'm not sure it is caffeine though as I used to consume a lot of Red Bull, especially on long cross country drives until my Arrhythmia Nurse found out and read me the riot act. I usually only drink decaff tea at home .

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply toBobD

Glad to hear your ablation sorted you out!. For some reason before I was diagnosed a coffee made me sleepy rather than hyper, I would often enjoy a strong coffee before bed and it sent me sleeping like a baby. But my cardiologist was telling me off when I walked into his office with a costa hot chocolate in my hand so he put me off anything containing any caffeine lol.

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Alfieros

Since Iโ€™ve had afib, coffee is something that sends me into afib so obviously I donโ€™t drink it anymore. You might do well by trying caffeine before your trip. I would hate to be away and have a bout of a fib

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply toAlfieros

Yes Think I will do the deed and have myself a little test at home with a coffee and pepsi after, see how I tolerate it. Even if I did not have any episodes will still avoid caffeine, Its a bugga for the heart rate even in people with no arrhythmias at times.

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Alfierosโ€ข in reply tochevidaniels

Let us know how it goes :-)

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Polskiโ€ข in reply tochevidaniels

I would try the coffee and the pepsi on different days. Too much caffeine and other stimulants is far more likely to set off the AF than just one.

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CaroleF

When I was newly diagnosed I read here that caffeine was a trigger for many people with AF so I switched to decaffeinated coffee - and tea. I still drink those two when at home, but now if I go out for a nice meal I will have a 'proper coffee' and it hasn't had an adverse effect - yet! In fact I haven't been able to identify any triggers for my AF episodes.

So โ€ฆ. give a real coffee a go before your trip and see how it goes. And have a wonderful time. Bali โ€ฆโ€ฆ. how exciting!

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply toCaroleF

Hi Carole,

Sounds like you have got it right by treating yourself to a nice coffee on occasions.

I actually don't mind the taste of decaff at all to be fair, I just sometimes miss the caffeine hit lol. Will give it a go and monitor my pulse, and if all goes well Ii wont have to worry they gave me a real coffee instead of decaff abroad lol. Thanks for your message

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RiderontheStorm

I've found I have a sensitive system. Too much caffeine 4+ cups in the AM and more than 2 shots of alcohol at night (found alcohol being Cardio toxic) are not good for me. Seems everyone has different triggers. Mine are stress to induce AF episode.

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply toRiderontheStorm

Alcohol is also something that sets off my arrhythmia, but I normally sleep if off feeling like crap and wake up recovered. Seen as it makes me feel rotten I only have it on special occasions. And stress gosh don't even get me started on that, Its one to get the heart racing.

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RiderontheStormโ€ข in reply tochevidaniels

So, YES, lifestyle and what we ingest can be as strong a deterrent or modifier as medicine. I'd rather deal with it via lifestyle changes than take more pills. :^)

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djbgatekeeper

Caffine was more a trigger for migraine for me, since I stopped using it a few years ago my migraines virtually disappeared overnight. I don't think it affected my AF that much but as its a stimulant I would never use it again.

Which decaf coffee do you use please? I'm still looking for a good tasting one! Best of luck with your trip ๐Ÿ‘Œ

โ€ข in reply todjbgatekeeper

Stick maybe to coffees decaffeinated by the water method. Some have caffeine removed by chemicals.

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Ianc2โ€ข in reply todjbgatekeeper

tesco's GOLD freeze dried decaffinated strength 3(medium). Nice light brown colour. I usually buy the 100g size. No bitter taste.

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Vonnieruthโ€ข in reply todjbgatekeeper

Lorr decaffe is good Its ยฃ6 in Tesco but B and M have it for 3 It's a green strip on the front

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply todjbgatekeeper

sorry to hear that, I know migraines are just so awful and you just want total darkness and silence!. Well I have a little nespresso pod machine, It literally makes me a nice lattee as if it were from Starbucks they are the Arpeggio Decaffeinato and I actually prefer them to the real stuff. If I am really desperate for one and my machine is not close by I use Nescafe Azera Americano Decaffeinated Instant, Its in Tesco and all the rest and its nice and creamy.

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djbgatekeeperโ€ข in reply tochevidaniels

Thanks for your reply, you sound like a coffee aficionado! Keep well ๐Ÿ‘

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Spiritji

I drink about 4 cups of tea in the morning......probably keeps the afib more active but i like the tea

โ€ข in reply toSpiritji

Ditto, but I just have one small pot. It is brewing as I write. ๐Ÿ˜€

Thereafter I avoid both caff and decaff and stick to caffeine free redbush / rooibos and peppermint.

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply toSpiritji

Cant go wrong with a nice cup of tea!

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Thomas45

I have no problem with caffeine. My problems come from coffee. I've not had a coffee for 10 years.

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TerriMoโ€ข in reply toThomas45

Interesting Thomas45. I have a friend who is allergic to the oil of the coffee bean. Caffeine is not a problem, but coffee is! She's the only person I've ever know to be allergic to coffee. :-)

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KMRobbo

When first I got AF i stopped taking tea or coffee unless decaff. Gradually I went back to them never seemed to be a trigger.

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply toKMRobbo

Good to hear that, Suppose we all act with caution in the beginning.

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torwellโ€ข in reply toKMRobbo

My experience was similar. I stopped caffeine completely after SVT diagnosis, but gradually reintroduced (1 good cup of coffee in the morning is all I generally care for) with no adverse effect I can notice. Alcohol is much more of an obvious trigger for me.

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KMRobboโ€ข in reply totorwell

I did similar with beer and wine and went on the wagon and stopped for ages. Then I restarted and at the next Christmas fell right off the wagon going round liverpool. No effect.

I have never found my triggers, only one I still have in the frame is stress, but i don't understand why, as I have had a much more stressful past than I have had the last 5 years and I only developed afib 3 years ago. Unless of course it is some sort of cumulative problem and I have already burned my candle out?

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momist

I'm obviously not typical here, but so far coffee has not had any detrimental effect on me. I have at least one very strong real coffee every morning, and sometimes one or two more through the day. I also enjoy alcohol without constraints (other than those imposed by my advancing years), and with no ill effect on my AF.

We are all different!

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Thomas45โ€ข in reply tomomist

I don't have a problem with alcohol either.

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply tomomist

That's good to know, I don't mind decaff here in the uk myself but when abroad I am excited to try there strong coffee :). Gosh I wish I could tolerate alcohol I am only 27 and 2 ciders send me into an episode! Luky you

I never thought it did until I looked into it, and I looked at how much I drank back in 2013 when I first started on this road.

I used to work 2 12.5 hour days together, and before that a 9pm finish with a 7am start. I regularly drank 4/5 energy drinks a week, and my hot drink of choice was always a strong cup of tea. My soft drink of choice was always full fat coke and I always had one or 2 ciders on a Wednesday night work permitting when I was out at a pub quiz.

Now, I don't touch energy drinks. I only drink decaff tea and only a couple a day. I drink a lot more squash and /or lemonade for some fizz. In the last 10 months I've had 2 pints of cider 2 weeks apart in September, a glass of Bucks Fizz in July and some wine with a Wedding meal in June. So little that I can remember each one.

When I have drunk it caffeine (or booze) I can tell. I have this heightened awareness of my heart rate, akin to feeling "full" with indigestion and I notice a subtle inscrease in my resting rate as I would if I was dehydrated.

I can't say for certain caffeine is one of the main causes of my AF, as it still happened with regularity despite cutting down/out.... but it's certainly got to be better doing what I'm doing now than how I was before.

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply tojedimasterlincoln

Gosh that's a great improvement to cut out all the energy drinks and coke, I was also similar drinking lots of full fat coke and strong coffee. Since my diagnoses I will have squash or orange juice and avoid any alcohol. I don't know if its made a difference but I just wanted to avoid any possible triggers as my cardiologist was lecturing me about caffeine. I can understand all those energy drinks in your situation that's a bloody long days work !

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jedimasterlincolnโ€ข in reply tochevidaniels

I just tend to get lectured about my weight now.....

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jamesvdv0

No. I have never found that coffee has been a trigger for AF episodes. However, excess coffee can give me slight palpations but I do not find this a significant concern. The real trigger risk for me, with every eposode that I can remember, is very cold food (ice cream, sorbet) and particularly ice cold drinks (even plain water).

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply tojamesvdv0

Good to hear that its not a trigger for you, how strange for the cold foods to trigger. I love an ice cold drink even in freezing temperature's outside. My only known trigger so far is pizza hut cheese, No idea what's in the stuff!

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TerriMo

I limit myself to 2 cups of caffeinated coffee a day and only in the morning. It does make my palpitations worse than if I don't have caffeine, but not anything I can't tolerate. I do not drink any other caffeinated beverages and stopped drinking dark sodas about 13 years ago. I don't miss them. I have, however, recently bought decaf coffee and some teas I like, to -TRY- to transition to even less caffeine. I have decreased my meds and this is a step to help me keep my dosage low. We'll see. I love coffee in the morning!

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply toTerriMo

wow great you gave up fizzy drinks, I have given them up for about a year and I do miss them. I often eye up the cans of cokes in the shop fridges and day dream about popping one open lol. I guess you get used to cutting things out eventually and forget about them.

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mbheart

I was very worried about drinking coffee but I have since found that drinking two cups a day does not affect me. I mix 1/3 decaf beans with 2/3 caffeinated beans, but once in awhile I have a fully caffeinated coffee and I don't find it triggers afib for me.

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chevidanielsโ€ข in reply tombheart

Good news its not a trigger for you, I suppose everyone is a bit worried in the beginning. I would more than likely drink the caffeinated coffee and worry so much that I trigger it myself though stress lol.

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chevidaniels

Nice to hear you can have one a day with no reaction, I agree moderation is the key. I think last time I ate a big cheesy pizza from pizza hut, I ate so much I actually felt my heart pounding all night. I now only have three slices instead of 7 !

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TerriMo

I still have an occasional fizzy drink! Just not dark caffeinated ones.

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glis

I was diagnosed in late april with afib. I drank a small amount of caffeine at the time. Then in may, I had a cup of soda and it sent me into afib and a four day trip to the hospital. Had to be cardioverted. Some people it affects. Others not so much. Def try before going on an extended trip.

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