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Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth

Good morning everyone Hope we are all as well as can be . Has any one any ideas why I get my bout of palpitations about ten minutes after leaving the bathroom every morning and why accompanied with hot flushing

Really spoils the start to my day and can last for quiet a while coming and going

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Hi there, could be that a hot shower (or bath) raises your blood pressure and triggers the problem? I've had that before and I've started having cooler showers which helped... have a nice day.

Thanks will try that Didn't know if it was perhaps lying too flat in bed

Morning yes it is a lovely day !! Maybe the shower is a little hot I’m the same if I have a hot bath !! Been to see gp yesterday he suggests another cardioversion so off to see consultant at my local hospital !!

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Edm174

Hope all goes well for you I have my first appointment 19th July Will see what happens

Edm174
Edm174 in reply to Vonnieruth

Will you let me know what they say !! I was hoping he would reduce my bisoprosol from 5mg but he said no so tiredness stays for now !

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Edm174

You must be I found I was only 2.5mg I don't seem as bad now but my BP tablets been altered

Edm174
Edm174 in reply to Vonnieruth

My BP is normal which is good news !! I’m off out later nice walk in the sun 🌞

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Edm174

Hope you enjoy I have just done my ironing

Edm174
Edm174 in reply to Vonnieruth

I hate the ironing 😂 I do mine tomorrow when watching the F1 😄

BobD
BobDVolunteer in reply to Edm174

me too.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to BobD

Rather just watch F1

Edm174
Edm174 in reply to BobD

Hi Bob I actually watched it live in Melbourne a couple of years ago it was amazing when Jensen button was around he was my favourite!! But i do like Daniel Ricardo 😄

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Edm174

Do you not like Hamilton then Edm

Edm174
Edm174 in reply to Vonnieruth

Lol of course he is the bestest driver ever 😄 😄 !! Eileen

BobD
BobDVolunteer in reply to Edm174

I think the last GP I went to was the year I closed the team down in 1988 when we decided to have a family. Our touring cars were always a support race at the British Grand Prix and frankly I couldn't get away soon enough. One year at Brands Hatch we rushed away after our race in the morning and watch the GP on TV!

Edm174
Edm174 in reply to BobD

That’s sounds brilliant bet you have some great memories you don’t realise what they put on before the race ! My son in adelaide likes to watch the v8s thinks it’s called clipsal???

Hi Vonnie :-) can you change your routine in some way ...

Maybe wake earlier and go back to bed with a cup of tea ..

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to doodle68

Going to have to try something I'm getting were I dread getting up Least once I have had them they done with for the day and only experience palpitations at times.

How are you today

doodle68
doodle68 in reply to Vonnieruth

Hi Vonnie :-) I am fine thank you and hope you are enjoying your day.

Hi I get the same problem in the morning not always after a shower. I was in AF all the time but had an ablation on the 31st May and not had the sweating as much.

Mine is actually after I been to the toilet Was being polite by saying bathroom lol

Hi Vonnieruth. I get this at least 5 mornings out of 7, I feel like I'm going to black out. It can last from anything from 15 minutes to an hour. But it happens after I've been to the loo, if you know what I mean!! My GP and indeed consultant have dismissed it as not heart-related. Because I suffer crippling anxiety I'm not taken very seriously I fear.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Gwersey

Yer mines the same after I have a poo.I suffer anxiety also and my doctor says it's related also.So glad I found someone who also has it

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Gwersey

I also get palpitations after going to the toilet in the morning and if i eat too much, I usually graze throughout the day. Also I feel awful first thing in the morning, quite unwell, it wears off after a while.

Gwersey
Gwersey in reply to Hidden

Have you any idea what causes it in your case? I'm so glad, in one way, that I've found people with similar symptoms. I've been convinced I was dying slowly. I'm not glad that others are suffering by any means, but I don't feel so isolated.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Gwersey

I have asked a few on here but no one has had the same symptoms in a morning Perhaps like my gp says it is the anxiety.

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Gwersey

I think it’s the vagus nerve that causes this, I was 28 when I started to feel awful if I went out with the family for a meal, palpitations lasted for hours after, I never linked it until later in life, I,m now 71. I did not know what the racing heart of svt was until I got attacks 2 years ago that had to be treated in hospital. I thought I was weird and different to everybody else so kept quiet and suffered it. If I got upset after an arguement with husband I would feel my body shaking with my heartbeat for hours, I live alone now.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Hidden

I'm still married But he gets fed up with me as I don't like him leaving me too long and he loves going fishing He's off on a day's fishing Wednesday 6am till about 5pm my anxiety and BP will be bad all day He is use to me working 12 hour shifts and being able to come and go as he likes Which he should be able to I know

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Vonnieruth

I left a mentally abusive marriage after 40 years for my own sake and happiness. I am used to coping alone and do not like bothering my children because they work, they will help me if I need them.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Hidden

You must be a strong minded person I have been in the past but I don't do Ill

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Vonnieruth

Strength comes with age I think, when you have to cope you will. The mind is a strong thing, I find if I try to concentrate on something like television or reading it does take half of my mind off the uncomfortable palpitations but not fully. I was worse when I was in my 30s, they would take over my existence, I didn,t have a caring husband so learnt to deal with them myself.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Hidden

I read in a evening in bed Nothing nicer than relaxing for a hour before I try to sleep I was very strong minded before this AF came to call

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Vonnieruth

You will get strong again, they are not pleasant at all eventually you come to terms with it but I am still alive and quite active so they are harmless. There are still moments when they worry me though.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Hidden

I guess we'll hope one does. had what I call hot flushing and few palpitations whilst in supermarket today I was dreading that but I dealt with it Anxiety doesn't help though

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Vonnieruth

I have suffered with anxiety all my life, queuing in supermarkets still cause me anxiety, I can,t wait to get out, I have to empty my mind and not think about it. I do not like crowds, I go out early to avoid them. I feel sure this problem goes hand in hand with anxiety.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Hidden

I agree with you there So many seem to suffer from both

hock217
hock217 in reply to Hidden

Yes. It is listed in DSM 5 as one of the anxiety disorders. The cause when I worked in Research is unknown. My area was Psychology but many disciplines involved was enlightening. Read a result: if you give a lactate infusion to someone not prone to panic attacks nothing happens but give one to a person who has panic disorder and it will bring on a panic attack. Many disciplines so important in solving health issues.

hock217
hock217 in reply to Vonnieruth

Please do not doubt the strength of your mind. Not knowing why or when is scary. Making plans is often avoided when you frequently need to cancel them. Make plans. Show up when able. Have compassion for yourself when you cannot.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to hock217

Thank you for your wise words Means a lot I'm expected to just carry on as normal according to husband

hock217
hock217 in reply to Hidden

Did you have an ablation?

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to hock217

Have not been seen at clinic yet Diagnosed with AF in May Hospital clinic appointment is July 19th

I see an EP on 29th of June. I'm going to try to press him on this issue as it's making my life a misery. I'll post the outcome on here so look out for it, it may interest you since we both have similiar symptoms.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Gwersey

Please do I'm at first clinic appointment 19th July so will mention it then to who I see It puts me off getting up in a morning so I just tell myself better getting over with

May I ask if both of you strain somewhat. The Rx slows down the Heart and may also slow down elimination. I take Diatomaceous Earth food grade daily. It helps if you have diverticula.

Gwersey
Gwersey in reply to hock217

No real straining in my case. Opposite in fact!

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to hock217

So do you experience our symptoms then I'm glad I have actually found someone who experienced them to

Is it something to do with the vagus nerve? Just guessing!

No idea hopefully will find out though

Not a very scientific answer but I find that levels of hydration in the body have an effect on many processes and functions. Is your body adjusting to several hours without hydration during the night and then losing more fluids first thing in the morning?

My husband has slightly low blood pressure and was told to increase fluids, especially in the morning, to increase it.

hock217
hock217 in reply to Mrspat

I agree. Whether I had this extra node from birth is a guess but the night I became weak, faint, chest fluttering etc I was dehydrated.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to hock217

Dehydration has so much to answer for

That's a good point thank you It's so annoying knowing it will happen as soon as you get up

When I felt mine, feeling sweaty and weak and faint were symptoms. Dehydration due to drinks at Play n not enough water seemed to be cause. Weeks later, monitor indicated SVT episodes with 140 EXTRA heartbeats and I felt fine.

Just read a very interesting article on cortisol. Some of the symptoms of imbalance are sweating, palpitations and flushing. Here it is drlam.com/blog/adrenal-fati...

This question is turning out to really help ME, as I now realize that the morning sweats I have had for several years are probably related to my AF which was only diagnosed less than a year ago. I'm going to do more research on this but I always wondered why my forehead would sweat so much and I think it is related. Please keep us informed what you find out, vonnieruth.

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to mbheart

Will do mb.You please let me know if you find anything also I am beginning to wonder if it's a female problem

Hi Not a nice subject for this time in the morning but having my bowels open sometimes sets me off with palpitations and hot flushes Infact my very first episode that I was aware of started this way and can be very scary when sat all alone on the loo lol

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Janshep

Lol it sure can I sometimes get a rocking rythm going and do a little hum in time with it lol I'm so glad I'm finding others in same situation

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Janshep

Have you been told what actually causes it

Hylda
Hylda in reply to Vonnieruth

Have found if I get up to pass water in the night I start to sweat when I get back into bed and an episode of Afib will start. My daughter and DIL say they have this problem without the Afib. Guess it might be a girl thing!!

Janshep
Janshep in reply to Hylda

Makes you wonder doesn’t it . I find that since having AF I put everything down to it which could be dangerous I guess

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Janshep

Think our brain goes into over drive and always think it's bad I tend to even when I feel better

Janshep
Janshep in reply to Vonnieruth

No the consultant just laughed when I told him and said any stress on the body can bring on Afib 😰

Vonnieruth
Vonnieruth in reply to Janshep

Not very helpful was he Problem for me is I go first thing every morning

Janshep
Janshep in reply to Vonnieruth

I go all sorts of times since having AF and put it down to the medication But can cause problems as you can imagine lol

Its starting to look that way

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