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Vitamin K2 - relevant homework

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I probably do too much 'homework' research, I blame it on my parents who let me watch 'Your Life in Their Hands' when I was 7 or 8 ! Anyway, I hope this article is of interest to those who also like to learn more drjohnday.com/9-signs-you-m... . As I have above average cholesterol, my main focus is to avoid any risk of calcium accumulating in my arteries giving the cholesterol some 'velcro' to hang onto thereby causing a stroke risk. So K2 is important I believe.

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Thanks S. Much appreciate the link

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fallingtopieces

I’m with you on doing the homework but believe you can’t do too much. Knowledge is power as far as I’m concerned.

How lucky we are to have the internet at our disposal these days.

I take a nattokinase supplement daily.

Pat

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Peddling in reply tofallingtopieces

Are you able to recommend a particular brand?

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I looked up Nattokinaise, my Google search produced:

'Nattokinase is a great supplement (and it contains K1), but it's made from only the enzyme found in natto. Nattokinase supplements do not include the K2 that is in the actual food.'

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fallingtopieces in reply tosecondtry

No, Nattokinase isn’t K2. I take it as I’m not on a prescribed anticoagulant and nattokinase works similarly.

I don’t need an ac due to my age. Nattokinase can’t be taken with any other anticoagulant but can apparently be taken alongside K2 though.

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secondtry in reply tofallingtopieces

Good to know thank you. I am sure you are right but my first thought was K1 in leafy greens etc (and possibly therefore Nattokinase) helps the blood clot rather than being an anti-coag. Does this make sense?

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I think K2 is essential. It, Vit D3 and a small dose of Mg are the only supplements I take. I think it's particularly important if you take warfarin to ensure calcium goes to the bones and not the arteries. I also find K2 helps stabilise my INR.

However if you do start taking K2 on warfarin, it will affect your INR (mine dropped 0.1 to 0.2) so you will need to get your INR checked a few days after taking it. Or preferably, of course, get a Coaguchek. And you do need to take the K2 every day without fail.

I also ensure I get a good portion of broccoli or spinach a day as a double check.

My wife broke her arm badly a couple of years ago. She was found to have osteopenia. Her blood calcium and parathyroid hormone levels were quite high. She started taking Vit K2, and to her consultant's surprise, these levels dropped into the normal range. I'll be interested to see what her next bone density scan is like.

Incidentally, I don't mention to any health professional (other than my wife who's a doctor) that I take K2, to avoid the tut-tutting!

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secondtry in reply toMarkS

Interesting Mark thanks. My Naturopath put me on Mg (actually a compound which incl Tarine, Potassium, D12 & much more) & CoQ10 both which he said was a standard for his AF patients. I still struggle to get my Mg test up to the top quartile of the range, so I am trying to curb my high calcium diet, as I understand too much of either can eclipse the other. I have also just bought some Vit D3 to start but read in WDDTY mag today that D3 increases the absorption of Ca - not exactly what I wanted but I guess I will start with a low dose.

As you mention, I expect K2 will increase my chances of clotting and as I am not on Anti-coags and have Factor V Leiden, more research to do!

Secondary,'Your life in there hands' + Grey's Anatomy + Encyclopedia Brittania for me too.

Thanking you for Dr.Johns link.

Carol.

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Peddling

Please keep up the homework and the sharing. We all benefit.

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Your life in their hands. A blast from the past!

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