veb's

[Musetta]

Hi All,

Apart from AF I also have what's called veb's (extra ventricular beats) diagnosed while wearing a holter monitor. I wonder does anyone know if this goes hand in hand with AF? Mine occur on nearly a

daily basis and are quite unpleasant - akin to a punch in the solar plexus. Would like to hear how veb's affects others.

Cheers,

Musetta

[Finvola]

I found them to be very debilitating - my EP refers to them as extrasystoles or PVC's. As they originate in the ventricles and not the atria, I suppose they are not directly related to AF and everyone has them. I'm told that we AFibbers notice them more - that's for sure - I was useless when they occurred every 2nd or 3rd beat. Symptoms were breathlessness and heart rate of about 90 instead of usual 65. (Now rid of them since I returned to my normal dose of Flecainide).

Dr John Mandrola writes about them and says research appears to show that magnesium reduces their frequency in many patients.

[Finvola in reply to Finvola]

Here's the link to Dr John's page:

drjohnm.org/2013/06/benign-...

[Musetta in reply to Finvola]

Hi Finvola,

Thanks for your reply - I'm also next useless when they occur - I shall read up on the link you sent me. I must ask my local pharmacist re: the difference between flecainide and diltiazem - which I take - I understand both meds are

antiarrhythmics. Flecainide is mentioned frequently on this forum, so maybe a change in my meds might lessen the VEB's or PVC's (not sure of the

difference) another question for my cardio. Interesting that magnesiun can lessen the symptoms - I shall up my magnesium rich foods!

Cheers,

Musetta

[xfrack in reply to Musetta]

Dark chocolate v.rich in magnesium.! I 'take' one square a day.

Best wishes

Ann

[Mike11 in reply to Finvola]

As he says, "some patients report magnesium ...". This is NOT the same as research, and indeed whilst there have been some reports of magnesium helping it is only going to do so if you are lacking in it in the first place which is unlikely with a modern diet.

[davee]

I also get them, only hear them called 'premature ventricular contractions '. Yeah you hit it right on the nail, they can be brutal, but not all the time. My ep upped my dose of bisoprolol and that helped a little. In the past I was told they were harmless, no doubt by someone who has never had any.