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I'll admit it I wanted to say is Doris Loh a Quack?

I went to her website for the first time, didn't see any credentials other than being a classically trained concert pianist and then that she was admitted to some scientific honor society I'm not familiar with. So I asked my favorite AI which summed her pretty good I think but still has me scratching my head.

Doris Loh appears to be a self-employed independent researcher/author who focuses on health solutions and molecules like melatonin, ascorbic acid, and deuterium[1]. While she has published works on these topics, she does not hold traditional academic or research institution positions that typically establish scientific authority[1]. Her background includes training as a classical concert pianist, and she describes her work as making "connections unseen by others"[1]. Her work is occasionally referenced in public discussions about melatonin, though primarily in comment sections rather than peer-reviewed literature[5]. Without substantial presence in peer-reviewed scientific publications or academic institutions, it would be difficult to classify her as a mainstream scientific authority in these fields.

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[1] Doris Loh - Semi Retired - Self-employed | LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/doris-loh-3...

[2] Melatonin: Regulation of Viral Phase Separation and ... pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl...

[3] [PDF] 66th ASH® Annual Meeting and Exposition hematology.org/-/media/hema...

[4] Robert Negrin - Stanford Profiles profiles.stanford.edu/rober...

[5] Melatonin and Insomnia: What Science Says About the Use of ... scitechdaily.com/melatonin-...

[6] Neuropsychological task outcomes among survivors of childhood ... nature.com/articles/s41598-...

[7] Pathogenic Germline Variants in 10389 Adult Cancers - Cell Press cell.com/cell/fulltext/S009...

[8] Pathogenic germline variants in 10,389 adult cancers - PMC pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl...

[9] Light, Water, and Melatonin: The Synergistic Regulation of Phase ... mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/6/5835

[10] Melatonin: Regulation of Prion Protein Phase Separation in Cancer ... pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl...

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"I'll admit it I wanted to say is Doris Loh a Quack?"

You can sleep on that.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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I focus more on the product over the labeling. There is a lot of positive research on the use of melatonin which include it's possible anti cancer effects, by which any bloat including my self can sing along to. Research the information presented when in doubt is what I do.

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I've seen her name mentioned here and there, and wondered who she is. Another person promoting high dose melatonin is a NV doc who's been trouble, forget his name.

There are some interesting melatonin papers out there, but it's been a while. I'll see if I can find a semi-credible one. Seems like one appeared in a microbiology journal; it was a mouse study, I think.

I have used melatonin as I have many things, but never the 250-300 mg doses like some have.

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jazj in reply todhccpa

I found that same doctor in NV after posting this then quickly found him having a very shady history being sanctioned or under investigation. You can actually read the complaint in Nevada. It involves quite a few patients. It looked like he wasn't properly documenting diagnoses to support recommended treatment. Probably because much of what he is recommending people take doesn't have widespread support in peer reviewed scientific literature. There's been no clinical human studies using more than 20 mg. But melatonin has a very good safety profile in general relative to a lot of other stuff you could put in you at high doses.

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She has published pier reviewed papers with Russel J Reiter, who has over 219,000 citations and is a well respected scholar in his 80s. I don't believe for a second that anyone of that calibre would ever be remotely associated with a "quack", much less do collaborative work. Which part of her work makes you think she is a quack? have you read any of it by any chance like I suggested last time? Do you understand it? Just because she is a concert pianist AND a researcher and someone doesn't understand her work, is that enough to qualify as a quack? jeez! You spent all this time doing research on the individual and completely missed the point. Liquid-liquid phase separation- Read it!

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jazj in reply toHotoneii

I think you are confusing asking a question with making an accusation. Thank you for your input. I've previously watched videos with Dr. Reiter and read some of the studies he was an author on and realize she was also associated with some of those. She's not an Oncologist or Microbiologist, not that is a necessarily a pre-requisite to give sound advice but her biography in my opinion could in the least be reasonably described as curious. I realize my use of the term "Quack" colored my inquiry, but the whole point of starting this thread was because I had not come to any conclusion of my own.

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Hotoneii in reply tojazj

Thank you for the clarification. Yeah I definitely got way too emotional there. No she's neither a Microbiologist nor an Oncologist, nor has she made any claims regarding being one ( to my knowledge). But if anyone reads into her research content and the way it is presented, well, I'm inclined to think that some of those professionals will sooner than later be reviewing it and very possibly learning something useful from it. Of course adequate double blind studies are needed, etc., but who will finance those?On many of her social media posts, there are dozens of requests about dosage or some other personal circumstance, to which occasionally she gracefully advices to "do your own research first and don't jump into conclusions". She is not trying to sell you some magic powder but she might point to the fact that melatonin is useless to someone who doesn't have any issues, and useless and potentially harmful by not taking the correct dose for someone who has. The reality is that the newest research ( by numerous professionals) points to the mitochondria and biomolecular condensates as the start of many degenerative diseases, which then cause a shift to the gene pool and not the other way around. It is worth exploring that new(ish) body of work in my opinion. My conclusion regarding her is that she is contributing to the welfare of people in general by sharing her knowledge, even if not appreciated.

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Pub Med publication

Russel J Reiter, Doris Loh paper
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More published papers

Russel J Reiter, Doris Loh paper
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I can go on and on

Russel J Reiter, Doris Loh published paper
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jazj in reply toHotoneii

I'm fully aware of these papers. But they don't really prove anything for certain for any author let alone Doris Loh. I guess I'm more curious for those that consulted with her, what they thought about her and if she provided any recommendations regarding cancer treatment, what did their Oncologist think of her recommendations?

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Hotoneii in reply tojazj

Sorry, she does not do that ( consulting that is; is very difficult to get an answer to a hypothetical question from her) as far as I know. But she does know that melatonin at the correct dose will likely (likely, because no large research done other than in rats) stop cancers from growing and metastasizing, specially hormonal ones like prostate cancer. Oncologists would probably laugh at all this, besides their medical liability insurance does not cover administering alternative treatments. No point in asking them, not interested. In the US I understand some doctors might use those molecules for research under consent of their patients, which is then allowed in some states. The newly elected government might make those treatments more accessible, we'll see

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