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What where men with pca like pre diagnosis and treatment???

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I remember being extremely highly wanting sex, most decisions used to involve sex.I'm wondering if that was a huge build up of the testosterone that was feeding PCA????

Seemed to be accelerated in the year or 2 leading up to diagnosis?

Anyone else experience that.

Like the volume being turned up on that side of life????

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Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen

Men who have low testosterone are more likely to get prostate cancer.

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Mrtroxely in reply to Tall_Allen

There goes another one of my epithanymoments!!!

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spencoid2 in reply to Mrtroxely

stop having these "moments" they are not good for you :)

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Benkaymel in reply to Tall_Allen

I'm sure you're right but it seems counterintuitive given that PCa feeds on testosterone.

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Tall_Allen in reply to Benkaymel

Testosterone keeps healthy prostate tissue healthy. Lack of testosterone drives development of aberrant genomics. Too much or too little of biochemicals disrupts homeostasis.

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JWPMP in reply to Tall_Allen

So would those Testosterone Boosters advertised on TV be advantageous in preventing prostate cancer?

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Tall_Allen in reply to JWPMP

Men without prostate cancer should try for normal T.

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JWPMP in reply to Tall_Allen

Jim never "felt" like he had low T. But having lost one testicle to cancer, he had thought about taking one of those T Boosters. We have been thinking all along thank goodness he did not, but probably would have helped him. Another of the things we wish we'd known. . .

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lowT163 in reply to Tall_Allen

I did not get a testosterone level before the lupron shot but my MO and RO guessed I was low based on weight gain and energy level. The youngest person I knew with prostate cancer is 43. No young guys need apply.

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jimreilly

The old "anti-testosterone" sentiment re prostate cancer has been challenged on lots of fronts. I sure wouldn't worry about "too much sex" having been a cause of prostate cancer, though since so many of us were raised in cultures where sex=guilt it's a natural thing to think. I just hope you enjoyed all that sex, you were lucky to get it!

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Mrtroxely in reply to jimreilly

Hi.It's not the sex.

But I'd say the 2y previous to diagnosis seemed like a whirlwind

I felt like a dog on heat, seemed like somebody turned the dial up in the 2 years leading up to diagnosis.

Literally felt like a cave man grunting and wanting spread my seed????

Something must've been happening hormonally or inside leading up to diagnosis.

Which also makes it harder to have the odd wank and a puff of air instead of.......

And to be castrated!

Makes me feel like it was a punishment....

Maybe there's a god of cats??? For all the times I've been party to getting a cat neutered, it mus be how they feel when they wake up from that trip to the doctor's.

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lowT163 in reply to Mrtroxely

thanks for the memories

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dhccpa in reply to jimreilly

Hear, hear!

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Blueribbon63

I was the opposite of you, from a early age (40) I lost most libido, I even lost my partner because the lack of sex. I always thought the cause of my impotence was related to other issues such as depression. I procrastinated and never had a prostate check until I turned 56 and the symptoms and increased. Sex, what's that? This is why I don't care about the SE of hormone suppression. I've had them before treatment.

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Mrtroxely in reply to Blueribbon63

That's interesting point.Tall Allen sort of pointed toward low testosterone as a possible sign?

Hope you ok

And thank you for your honesty.

👍

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dhccpa

I was on Androgel for 7.5 years before diagnosis, very much in high energy mode.

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Nfler

Same here sex drive was crazy and unfortunately most was based on it…

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Tonwantonga

i don't remember my sexual needs or desire ramping up pre-DX, but i remember I really looked forward to that one week a month when my wife would be most likely to want sex. I also remember that very special birthday present she gave me every birthday we were together (pre-DX). the last three birthdays have absolutely sucked without it, not even worth looking forward to. my wife says next year she is sending me out west for my birthday, to see some of the places i used to love to see. i'm sure those places are similar to what they were, but i know I'm not, so it will be pretty much a wasted trip. but making her happy makes my depression a little less deep, so if she wants a break from me, I'll give her one. I can cry and mope about in South Dakota or Wyoming just as easily as i can here.

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j-o-h-n

Hardon is called a hardon since sex is Hard on us......

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 05/19/2023 9:10 PM DST

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Mrtroxely

Similar, makes things feel more or a loss now....

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