Mets to bone -- do you radiate - Advanced Prostate...

Advanced Prostate Cancer

22,373 members28,142 posts

Mets to bone -- do you radiate

compiler profile image
21 Replies

I am confused about typical tx in such a scenario.

Suppose someone has say 1-3 small spots on bone. Assume no pain/symptoms.

I've read that one can radiate those spots. I've also read that one should not radiate unless there is pain. Which is it?

Same question, but say more than a few spots (>5). Is radiation even in the picture?

Mel

Written by
compiler profile image
compiler
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
21 Replies
MJCA profile image
MJCA

I have about 6 mets around my skeleton. I have no pain. I asked my MO about radiation and his thoughts were the mets have been there for a while and not to try radiation now.

GP24 profile image
GP24 in reply toMJCA

Your MO will not radiate you. These mets probably contain most of your tumor cells and resistant cells may develop there. So I would try to get them radiated with SBRT. However, not all ROs will radiate 6 mets, most stop at five or three mets.

Mcrpca profile image
Mcrpca

Radium 223 treatments are considered beneficial earlier rather than later. What does your oncologist suggest?

compiler profile image
compiler in reply toMcrpca

I was just curious. I have no such mets, but down the road...

tango65 profile image
tango65

If you have only 3 metastases they could be irradiated. If the cancer is CSPC it may delay to start systemic therapy, If the cancer is CRPC it should be done along with ADT and other treatment.

mrscruffy profile image
mrscruffy

I had five mets on spine and all were radiated with success 6 years ago and no reoccurrence while on ADT. Last month two more popped up and those were zapped. Never have had any pain

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen

As far as we know, radiation of metastases is only palliative. Is it growing, and will it cause loss of function if it continues to grow? Is it safe? (Radiation in the mediastinum may not be safe.) If there are just a few, and they are in a safe place to radiate, why not?

The radiation of asymptomatic multiple spinal metastases has shown no benefit, but there may be cases where there is a benefit:

prostatecancer.news/2022/12...

anony2020 profile image
anony2020

youtu.be/Q2joD360_pI

NecessarilySo profile image
NecessarilySo in reply toanony2020

Cool and very informative video! Frightening, too.

anony2020 profile image
anony2020 in reply toNecessarilySo

Seems reassuring?

NecessarilySo profile image
NecessarilySo in reply toanony2020

Yes, but it's the "0.9-1.5 years" survival rate that's scary.

AlvinSD profile image
AlvinSD

I have one bone met (<1 cm) in my right hip socket as well as lymph node metastases. I am on the triplet therapy protocol and finished 6 cycles of chemo at the end of October.

Because they consider me oligometastatic, they are also giving me radiation (just had treatment 9 of 28). We had discussions with my RO and decided on not only irradiating the prostate but also irradiating the bone met and the pelvic lymph nodes. It’s a lot of radiation but I figured it would give me the most potential benefit to just go for it.

MateoBeach profile image
MateoBeach in reply toAlvinSD

Triplet plus the radiation you have planned is the full meal deal. Yes, likely to give you the best possible PC control. 👍🤞

pakb profile image
pakb

My husband was diagnosed with many bone mets in Aug 2017- gleason 9. Did chemo plus lupron at diagnosis. Then switched to zytiga plus prednisone and kept Lupron after chemo. PSA steadily declining as did bone mets. He never had pain from mets on bones. Scans showed no active cancer for a few years then one former spot on his T4 spinous process (end of vertebrae so RO and MO felt a 'safe' place to do one high dose zap) lit up. He had no pain there. He did the one 'zap' to that met which seems to have worked in the follow up scan. He will have his next scan March 2023- but PSA continues to drop (just reached 1 last month- lowest in 5 years- steady drop but SLOW). His doctors are happy with the results of the one spot radiation treatment and will do again if needed.

EdBar profile image
EdBar

I recently had one spot on my rib show up on a PSMA scan, which coincides with my PSA becoming detectable again after about six years of being undetectable. I plan on having it radiated, my local MO as well as my PCa specialist Dr. Sartor agree with that. It is in an easy spot to radiate and I’m not going to let it fester. The RO says it’ll be done in three sessions of SBRT. I go for my simulation on Wednesday, hopefully get it taken care of next week.

Ed

MateoBeach profile image
MateoBeach in reply toEdBar

Good plan. Good luck.

PSAed profile image
PSAed in reply toEdBar

Just read your Bio to see the outcome of the radiation to the spot on your rib. I saw the drop in your PSA after the radiation so hopefully this means the spot was eliminated. Also thanks for that link on stress and it's role in cancer progression. Best wishes.

Kittenlover50 profile image
Kittenlover50

you could read the PEACE1 study. Some docs start with chemo first then radiation. Many do radiation along with medication.

NEHOG profile image
NEHOG

I had spots on my spine radiated due to leg pain caused by pressure on the nerves. Oncology radiologist didn't think it would work, but was willing to try. Two weeks, after the first week I was pain free, and have not experienced such symptoms since. But that did include pain (and other symptoms...)

lowT163 profile image
lowT163

I think that everyone will be treated different based on how much radiation you had the first time. I never asked but was told when I got my 39 rounds that it was all I could ever get. Tells me my spots when they come won’t be treated. In my group nobody had the exact same treatment. Mine was proton not sure how different IMRT would have been.

john4803 profile image
john4803

I had RP & EBT & then Lupron for 2.5 yrs., PSA <0.1 (T = 10). Went on holiday for 1 .5 yrs.

T went to 200's & PSA 0.4. 1 lesion on Lamina of T-11, considered Oligometastatic. Had Cyberknifed.

In 3 mon. T went to 330 & PSA 7.3, metastasis throughout skeleton, T-4 of "Neurological Significance". RO wanted to Cybernife but MO started Apalutamide, Lupron & Xgeva & lesion shrunk. PSA went to 0.1 & so far staying there.

So, depends on the significance of lesions as to what to do?

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

Mets.....cant see em now....what to do..

The pelvic mets and ductal andercarcinoma that got me in this den of thieves....are no longer...
Boywonder56 profile image

Radiation of Mets

Hello Fellow Warriors: I have not posted lately because my cancer has been relatively stable. As...

To Radiate (the Prostate) or Not to Radiate (the Prostate): That is the Question.

I have to decide whether to radiate the prostate or not. I was diagnosed in February with Gleason 8...

bone Mets!

it’s here. After 11 1/2 years on zoladex injections and Xtandi followed by Nubeqa, husband had a...
Nubeqa22 profile image

Mets to the bone

Hello all, my dad(70) had a routine blood test and found out his PSA was 12.2, he had not had a PSA...
Nyquist5 profile image

Moderation team

Bethishere profile image
BethishereAdministrator
Number6 profile image
Number6Administrator
Darryl profile image
DarrylPartner

Content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the relationship between you and doctors or other healthcare professionals nor the advice you receive from them.

Never delay seeking advice or dialling emergency services because of something that you have read on HealthUnlocked.