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B17: Is it worth taking? - Advanced Prostate...
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Cyanide
Darn. Thought I had a winner.
Perhaps just a few seeds are ok and will do some good?
I like the kernels from apricots and even the odd bitter almond. I eat the fruits and kernels if I can open them. Taste good but never overdo them or think of them as anything other than a part of a varied plant based diet. As a kid I ate all sorts of things from the hedgerows and fruit trees like pomegranate or calendula flowers. Steve McQueen sadly was given injections/IV of all manner of things.
You're a funny guy.Please don't be guinea pig. The results are in. Don't use it.
Spouses have used it to kill their partner. Shows up as Cyanide in the autopsy.
Nasty women.
To this date, no vitamin or supplement has been found to "cure" prostate cancer.
Amgdalin is a component of Apricot seeds. Amygdalin turns into cyanide in the body in small amounts ..and might kill weak, damaged cells such as Cancer cells. BUT, eating more than 5 to 7 kernels of Apricot seeds is like playing with fire and cause serious problems.
For such a serious subject, I laughed all the way through your post. There are masters of the one liner, and then there is Tall_Allen, the master of the one word. 23 years? I am giving you a standing ovation right now. My lame joke was gonna be, Did you take a B17 to Germany? Sounds like some of your treatments were worse than the disease. I haven't heard too much about Lu and ACC at same time. Fry them damn bastards. Hope your good results continue.
This is your captain speaking "Does anyone have a roll of duct tape?"
Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n Friday 02/04/2022 8:26 PM EST
Wouldn’t your roll of duck tape work?
Attention passenger Professor monte1111 sitting in row 11 seat 11, I have to admit I made a mistake....I should have mentioned I need a square roll of duct tape, not a round roll. The round one keeps rolling away and it's hard to find. I need the tape since I accidently ripped off the binding of my book that I'm reading it's titled "Being a pilot has it's up and downs". Thank you for your support.....Your Capitan....
So as the saying goes "To t-err is human....to forgive is de-bind"
Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n Saturday 02/05/2022 10:09 PM EST
AYE AYE SIR
Time to head for the head..........Okay lewicki take over the controls and don't use up the entire duct tape......
Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n Sunday 02/06/2022 5:24 PM EST
WebMD
Is Amygdalin a Safe Cancer Treatment?
Medically Reviewed by Minesh Khatri, MD on October 28, 2021
By Julie Marks
Amygdalin is a compound found in the pits or seeds of apricots, apples, peaches, plums, red cherries, and other fruits. It's also in bitter almonds.
A partly man-made, purified form of amygdalin, known as Laetrile, was patented in the 1950s and became a popular alternative cancer treatment during the 1960s and '70s. It's now banned by the FDA and hasn't been available in the U.S. since 1980.
Many websites tout the benefits of amygdalin (also called nitriloside, purasin, and vitamin B17) for cancer. Though these sites post stories of personal successes after using it, the scientific proof simply isn't there.
How It Works
The way your intestines break it down makes cyanide, which supposedly kills harmful cancer cells.
Some people have also suggested that it teams up with enzymes in cancer cells to destroy them.
Others say the cancer was caused because you didn't have enough "vitamin B17." But there's no proof that amygdalin acts like a vitamin in your body or that you even need it. Calling it a vitamin is a way to get around regulations for drugs.
What the Research Says
Animal and lab studies of amygdalin have mixed results. Several found no benefit, while others suggest the chemical has a slight effect on certain kinds of cancer cells. It might help relieve pain.
To date, there haven't been any "controlled clinical trials" on amygdalin. This means scientists haven't compared people who receive the treatment to people who don't.
Why It's Dangerous
apricot kernelsThe most obvious reason is that amygdalin can cause cyanide poisoning. Your blood pressure could drop very low, you may damage your liver, or you might go into a coma. In the worst-case scenario, high doses -- 50-60 apricot kernels, or 50 grams of Laetrile -- can kill you.
Symptoms of cyanide poisoning include:
Dizziness
Being queasy and throwing up
Headache
Blue skin
A droopy upper eyelid
Trouble walking
Confusion
Fever
These problems are usually worse when you swallow amygdalin rather than injecting it.
You're more likely to have a bad reaction if you also take high doses of vitamin C or eat foods like:
Raw almonds
Crushed fruit pits
Peaches
Beans such as butter, lima, and mung
Bean sprouts
Carrots
Celery
Flaxseeds
Because amygdalin isn't FDA-approved, it could have dangerous ingredients. Products from Mexico, the main supplier of amygdalin, have been reported with bacteria and other harmful substances in them.
The Bottom Line
Amygdalin is an unproven treatment that could hurt you.
Talk to your doctor about any alternative or complementary therapy you think might help.
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Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n Friday 02/04/2022 8:11 PM EST
Strangely enough, in recent years there seems to be an increased interest in amygdalin for cancer treatment, especially for breast cancer. I have listed a few papers below. Just as research on the highly toxic yew led to the development of the taxane chemotherapy maybe something useful will come from amygdalin research.
Role of Amygdalin in Blocking DNA Replication in Breast Cancer In Vitro
S Albogami, A Alnefaie - Current Pharmaceutical Biotechnology, 2021 - ingentaconnect.com
… The molecular mechanism by which amygdalin is involved in relieving cancer symptoms is yet to be … by which amygdalin exerts its antiproliferative effects in the human MCF-7 breast cancer cell line to, ultimately, provide a basis for developing targeted treatment in breast cancer. …
Synthesis of polygonal chitosan microcapsules for the delivery of amygdalin loaded silver nanoparticles in breast cancer therapy
A Pandey, A Ali, Y Negi - Materials Today: Proceedings, 2021 - Elsevier
… In this study, amygdalin loaded silver nanoparticles encapsulated chitosan microcapsules were developed for the efficient delivery of amygdalin in breast cancer therapy. First, amygdalin loaded silver nanoparticles were developed by reduction method and then encapsulated …
Comparison Between β-Cyclodextrin-Amygdalin Nanoparticle and Amygdalin Effects on Migration and Apoptosis of MCF-7 Breast Cancer Cell Line
B Mosayyebi, M Imani, L Mohammadi… - Journal of Cluster …, 2021 - Springer
… β-CD-Amygdalin complex increased the toxicity of amygdalin in the MCF-7 breast cancer cell line. … Besides, we proved that the nanoformulation of amygdalin with β-CD elevated amygdalin … of β-CD to in order to improve the therapeutic effects of amygdalin on cancer treatment. …
Amygdalin Decreases Adhesion and Migration of MDA-MB-231 and MCF-7 Breast Cancer Cell Lines
B Mosayyebi, L Mohammadi… - Current Molecular …, 2021 - ingentaconnect.com
… performed to determine amygdalin effects on adhesion and migration of cancer cells. Further … amygdalin decreases cancer cell migration and adhesion by affecting integrins, while some dissimilarities have been observed [19, 20]. Moreover, amygdalin effects on breast cancer …
Cancer cells are not “weak”. Kill the whole body with cyanide or whatever and yes, the cancer will be killed also. But suspect they may be the last cells to die. Sorry, too morbid.
• in reply toMateoBeach
Right. The whole idea is to kill the cancer without killing yourself first. The problem is not that B17 is a poison, but it's not the right poison.
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