Inflammation

[Jack02]

Hi all hope you all well,

Just wondering what you all may take in vits for inflammation? As I have read men with more inflammation have a higher mortality rate, thank you in advance xx

[addicted2cycling]

I prefer to rely on spices, anti-inflammatory foods and exercise.

[Hidden in reply to addicted2cycling]

Anti-inflammatory foods being what?

[addicted2cycling in reply to Hidden]

Plenty out there >>>

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[Hidden in reply to addicted2cycling]

i eat steamed broccoli every morning so I guess I have that going for me. and I love fish and nuts. and seldom eat fried foods. but I still feel like a big blob of inflammation

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

Eeek. Broccoli for breakast. You are a true warrior in this fight.

[Tall_Allen]

It's true that inflammation is correlated with higher mortality, but that does not mean it is the cause of higher mortality or that reducing inflammation increases survival. In fact, trials of Celebrex and other NSAIDs have proved that they do not increase survival. Some inflammation is necessary to get an immune response. People with early fever from Covid are told to only take tylenol, not NSAIDs or steroids. If they have severe inflammatory symptoms, steroids are given.

[noahware]

I take D3 daily at 5,000 IU, and one baby aspirin.

There are a variety of other supplements, meds or dietary adjustments that might be helpful. I suspect reducing processed simple carbs (white flour, white sugar) may be among the best of those, and possible eliminating dairy... sometimes what you take away is more important than what you add!

[kenner in reply to noahware]

21 years since my Radical, I have taken 5K of Vita D since.Lots of Veggies and little sugar.

[JPOM in reply to noahware]

Same regimen here. So far 3 cardiologists swore to me ONLY their big pharma blood thinners work to possibly prevent strokes due to clots caused by AFib... because aspirin is only an anti-platelet while Eliquis et. al. were anti-coagulants. I challenged him and any other damn doctor to tell me how coagulation can occur without platelets. One guy claimed aspirin does NOTHING! and stood over me, hollering at me like I was a Catholic school kid and he was gonna whack me with a stick! I was 70 at the time; had I been younger, he'd be missing his front teeth. Got an off-handed remark by a doc in PA that there are 12+ clotting factors. Looked them up and ya, they factor... in the "cascade" that causes clotting... always ending with... wait for it... platelet aggregation! I could be wrong; I only made it thru pre-med in college. My advantage is that big pharma never saw me at their cocktail parties.

[arete1105]

curcumin, also the main benefit of FIR ( Far infra red) is anti inflammatory. Check into crystals such as jade, amethyst, tourmaline. I sleep on a FIR heating pad at nite and get that benefit that way. You can find FIR heating pads on eBay.

[Frigataflyer]

“Inflamation”is the topic of several excellent essays by PJ O’Shea on this site.

[nobaday]

I have been taking the NSAID Indomethicin for 3 months and it has stopped my back tumour pain at T9 to T11.

[LearnAll]

General Rule" Vegetables and fruits, leaves, seeds, roots are mostly anti inflammatory and Meat of all kinds esp. preserved meat is Pro-Inflammatory.Now to specifics: Turmeric, Garlic, Ginger, Onions, Mint, Coriander leaves, Rosemary, Organo. Holy Basil , black seed oil, Cinnamon, and sulforaphane rich vegetables are all anti inflammatory. CBD oil is very anti inflammatory.

Anti inflammatory medicines: Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Diclofenac, Indomethacin, naproxen, Celecoxib etc.

Check you C Reactive Protein level ...Make these changes to your diet and recheck your C Reactive protein after 6 to 8 weeks. Goal is to bring CRP down to below 0.5.

CRP is the best measure of inflammation in the body.

[EdBar]

I take Celebrex for SE’s of Xtandi (headaches) it was prescribed by my MO Dr. Sartor. And Famotadine which was prescribed by Snuffy Myers back when he was still practicing, my current docs have renewed the prescription for me since the regimen I’m on seems to be working. Both help with inflammation.

Ed

[pjoshea13]

Posted 4 years ago - I should update it.

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[RonnyBaby]

There is one product that I have taken that has really helped with my arthritis (inflammatory disease).

It is called Zyflamend - which contains a 'combo' of many anti-inflammatory 'substances - most are herbal or root extracts.

Amazon is one of multiple sources for the product. Get the Herbal Joint Pain Reliever by 'New Chapter' .....

I read originally about it within these forums and strongly recommend it .....

[podsart in reply to RonnyBaby]

Suggest you check past posts re zyflamend quality. I used to take it.

[RonnyBaby in reply to podsart]

I'm surprised to read about your negative experience and about 'quality' - I've had nothing but positive results and my wife started taking it as well and she noticed a significant difference in a few weeks.

Perhaps the 'product' has a better quality control than in the past where some negative push back may have initiated some positive change.

I'll do some more searching to try to find the sources of your 'complaint'.

Thanks for the feedback ....

[podsart in reply to RonnyBaby]

To be clear, I am not talking about a quality issue I felt or saw by my personal experience while taking zyflamend. I am referencing postings regarding info posted in the past re a change in zyflamend production that led to a quality issue that was researched at that time.

I stopped using zyflamend. The effect of quality may not result in symptoms I could feel, at least for a while, but also may affect the effectiveness of the product.

[Jack02 in reply to podsart]

I do t know how to look at past posts I’m new to the group 😂I’m fairly young but have no idea with technology x

[Jack02 in reply to RonnyBaby]

Thank you I’m glad to hear this, as well as my dads advanced prostrate cancer, he also got diagnosed with arthritis in his feet unfortunately this fell in line with his diagnosis, but is nothing do with his diagnosis at all would of come anyway, he is in a lot of pain with it, his feet swell very badly at the end of day, I will definitely be ordering this as no meds even naproxen helps at all,Ronny baby you’d find this really helps you then. Does it come in dosage if so what dosage to you buy many thanks for your reply hope your well x

[RonnyBaby in reply to Jack02]

I take 2 capsules daily, in the morning with food. I get no digestive upsets, but you might get a bit of 'ginger' after taste - but nothing to make you ill and it doesn't cause any gas.They recommend 1 * twice daily - but due to my insomnia, I take both at once in the mornings.

Remember that most of these are extracts ....

The 'dosage' @ 1 capsule is:

Rosemary -> 50 mg + 25 mg (2 specific extracts)

Turmeric -> 50 mg + 5 mg (2 specific extracts)

Organic Green Tea -> 50 mg

Holy Basil -> 50 mg

Ginger -> 27 mg + 25 mg (2 specific extracts)

Hu Zhang -> 40 mg

Barberry -> 20 mg

Chinese Goldthread -> 20 mg

Oregano -> 20 mg

Chinese Skullcap -> 10 mg

[Spyder54]

Pomi-T (tumeric,broccoli,pomegranite, green Tea), straight hot green tea, 2,250mg Tumeric-Curcumin, 81mg St Joseph baby aspirin, occasional Tequila on the rocks as the agave plant is similar to the aloe vera plant and heals from the inside out🍀Sla’inte

[Hidden in reply to Spyder54]

I use 2 supplements daily that supposedly treat inflation;Pomi-T and a Turmeric patch.

Everything else is diet and exercise.

[Hunt4Fun]

67 Years old. Have spinal cord compression and arthritis in ankle, knees & shoulder & 2 past broken fingers. I was very hard on my body for most of youth. Been battling T3B APC since 2008. Did RP & radiation with 10 yrs of constantly being full of Lupron. Was castrated in 2018.

I take curcumin 2 times day and have big cup of ginger tea with lemon & raw organic apple cider vinegar every morning & night. I eat pretty darn healthy but splurge once a week. I stay active managing my forested property and working in wood shop.

I swear by the ginger and curcumin regiment. Those 2 additions made significant and marked difference when added to all the rest I was doing.

Happy Trails

Peace out

PCO

[NecessarilySo]

Diet and exercise seem to be keys to not just prostate cancer control but also longevity. Inflammation control is a part of that. I personally have maintained a high lycopene diet (v8 juice, spaghetti, lycopene tablets, catsup, coctail sauce, taco sauce, bbq sauce etc.) along with a lot of vegetarian foods, (e.g. Amy's organic chili, egg beaters., cereal, vegetarian meat substitues, etc), and non-red meat including chicken, fish (salmon, tuna, etc.). I have to say I am out on a limb to claim I have not only kept my cancer under control but I have kept my aging under control. My main problem is exercise. My body is atrophied due to the pandemic inactivity and Lupron or lately Orgavyx/Xtandi tiredness.

[rmarkley in reply to NecessarilySo]

I notice that you are talking about Orgovyx/Xtandi tiredness. I have the same tiredness with Firmagon/Zytiga (abiraterone). My MO would like to put me on Orgovyx/Zytiga, but the insurance company would not let him, since there is currently no FDA approval for that combination. Trials are ongoing, and approval is expected at year end. What did your MO do to allow you to be on the Orgovyx/ Xtandi (enzalutamide) combination? Does your insurance cover it? My MO would really like to know, so he can do the same thing for me.

[NecessarilySo in reply to rmarkley]

I'm not sure but i askrd the pharmacist and was told that it was covered by Umited Healthcare. My understanding is that the 2-month free trial period:

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makes it comparable in cost to Lupron/Xtandi. So it's a costly situation either way. As for the FDA approval I asked about that too and the pharmacist said just that there was no problem there. That's about all I know on that. I had heard same as you. Could be a risk the physician has to accept? I am pretty much non-alergic and had almost no side effects from Lupron, which whad a shortage and was replaced by Enzalutamide? which isCanadian equivalent of Lupron. The tiredness is something I think is possibly due to other factors, drugs, laziness, pandemic inactivity, lack of exercise, whatever. I just noticed others mentioning it herein.

[rmarkley in reply to NecessarilySo]

OK, thanks for that. My MO's question, and mine also, is: Does your insurance, United Healthcare, cover the cost of both the Orgovyx and the Xtandi? I can't get my insurance, Anthem BC-BS, to cover both Orgovyx and Zytiga.

[Rod98168]

Hi Hunt4Fun. I've been on intermittent lupron therapy for the last 7 years and I really don't want to do it anymore so I'm considering being castrated. I'd like your opinion about being castrated, if you regret it or if you would recommend it and why.

[HamGuy in reply to Rod98168]

I was castrated 2 years ago & have no regrets.. Would do it again in a heartbeat.. Easy operation as an outpatient.. Just know that it is not reversible but at my age of 77 I didn't really care.. Noticed loss of strength and no sexual ability but not much else.. Only thing is it didn't hold my PSA down.. I went on 6 sessions of chemo this past winter & it brought my PSA down from 59 to 1.4 & hoping it stays down for a long time.. Good luck..

[Jalbom49]

The modern American diet is unbalanced between the anti-inflammatory omega 3s and pro-inflammatory Omega 6s. This is from the seed oils. In ultra processed foods.

This increases systemic inflammation.

Also elevated insulin levels are associated as well.

By avoiding seed oils and carbs which raise insulin, your systemic inflammation will decrease.

For example I am very fair skinned and do not sunburn since I cut out all seed oils.

Due to modern monoculture agriculture soils are depleted and we are low in magnesium and other minerals.

As a result I supplement magnesium. Trace metal supplement may also be good

We are also especially low in fat soluble Vitamins A, D and K2, all of which can be obtained from liver, good butter and sun.

Meat is not pro-inflammatory and vegetables are not anti-inflammatory.

One major source of inflammation is autoimmune disease.

I used to have one but it went away when I stopped eating grain in 2013.

Some people with severe autoimmune problems have responded to the carnivore diet. Some have relief with the keto diet.

The ketones of the keto diet reduce brain inflammation and are used by epileptics. That is how the diet started a hundred years ago. The Charlie foundation promotes it for seizure disorders.

[GeorgeGlass in reply to Jalbom49]

The seed oils are bad, especially if they are altered and used in packaged products. However, from what I've read, the nuts and seeds, eaten in their original form are healthy.

[Jack02 in reply to Jalbom49]

Thank you for an amazing and very interesting reply x

[Moespy]

I take:Vitamin C

Vitamin D

Super K

Magnesium

Turmeric Curcumin C3

Pomegranate Extract

Broccoli Extract

Resveratrol

Ziflamend

CoQ10

Omega 3 Fish Oil

IP6 + Inositol

Quercetin with Bromelain

Apple Cider Vinegar Extract

Aspirin (low dose)

[j-o-h-n]

Inflammation? Divorce your wife...............

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 04/22/2021 8:17 PM DST