Mistletoe therapy

[Weezer513]

Does anyone have experience with mistletoe therapy? It is used as an integrated medicine.

[Magnus1964]

I used mistletoe as a complimentary therapy for a while. Can't say if it did any good I was on casodex at the time. Who knows maybe it helped extend the efficacy of casodex.

[Tall_Allen]

Put it in the search bar - there was someone here a while ago who used it.

[Weezer513 in reply to Tall_Allen]

Thanks I’ll take a look.

[ctarleton]

Isn't that what astronauts take when they have athlete's foot?

No? Never mind.

[Hidden in reply to ctarleton]

Ouch my mistletoe!😂😂

[keepinon in reply to ctarleton]

LOL !!

[Hidden]

My naturalpathic offers it .. I believe that it’s a last ditch effort only . I would exhaust all other means before doing mistletoe. I do much nutrition Per this Dr and I did alot of highC Iv’s amongst others for a year and a half. And I went into remission Also doing double adt and 8 weeks imrt at the same time along with the naturalpathics.. I’ve eaten and injested a lot of stuff ( bitter melon and others) intended for cancer .. I am saying to try things to heal yourself . All we have to lose , is the dammed pc? By the way. I saw weezer rock Denver stadium. The song was “ living in Beverly Hills” Great video at Hefs mansion. We have some that follow the natural way as long as the conventional med. A lot of guys here don’t go for it. I’m the opposite . If you’re serious talk to a naturalpathic you ncologist yo get a path for and. I’ve been on mine Over five Years now. I’ve done high thc canabis oil each day the entire time too. I m set that it’s good for it all . Each to their pawn pathway of healing . Take care weezer513✌️

[Weezer513 in reply to Hidden]

Thank you so much. I’ve been in contact with Dr. Zubin Marolia he is in all the truth about cancer videos and is a big proponent for mistletoe. I’ve actually had a hard time finding a good homeopathic dr around us. Dr Zubin said he would prescribe it for us so we are going that route along with his regular oncologist. My cousin has a business partnership with a cbd company and is sending something for him to take for pain. I think you have to be willing to have an open mind and try anything especially natural remedies I am a believer in both (well I lean more towards natural)

[Weezer513 in reply to Weezer513]

and FYI Weezer’s blue album and Pinkerton are the best!

[Hidden in reply to Weezer513]

Mine nat oncologist is Dr Michael Uzick .. he put me on the nutrient path. He’s in Tucson . I’m told there are only 100 naturalpathic oncologist in the USA. I believe in the nature’s ways to help us counteract the adt and treatments. I’ll check those two weezer albums out! Thanks 😎✌️

[Weezer513 in reply to Hidden]

Yes we are in NY and you would think that there would be a naturopath onc somewhere around us but no.

You’re welcome and enjoy ✌️

[Hidden in reply to Weezer513]

✌️

[novatimo]

I used mistletoe injections for a number of years while I was living in Vancouver, BC. The purported benefit, and in my own experience, is that mistletoe is helpful for immune stimulus and support against the cancer. My naturopath there was very helpful and he has a good Q&A page here [lemmo.com/cancer-care/mistl...].

Mistletoe is more popular in Germany, Austria and Switzerland than in North America as an integrative treatment . The type that's best for PCa is mistletoe that grew on an oak tree (Quercus c Argentum). I used Iscador brand [iscador.com/en/service/freq...].

You start with ampules containing weaker solutions and work up to more potent ampules. Most patients are capable of learning how to self-administer using an insulin gauge needle. The problem is that in the U.S. only the 'beginning' lower potency Iscador ampules are available. Once I reached the level where I was ready for the higher potency solutions I had to go to Germany to buy them and 'import' them in my carry-on. It must be kept refrigerated. The Helixor brand might be more easily obtainable in the U.S. - at the weaker potencies - but it's my understanding that Helixor is not fermented like the more desirable Iscador is. It's advisable to consult with and be monitored by a local naturopath.

[Graham49]

I posted this a couple of years ago.

"NHS branches out into mistletoe cancer therapy"

Graham49

Graham49

2 years ago•15 Replies

I was surprised to read this headline in the Sunday Times on 23 December. It appears that NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde had referred 47, and NHS Lothian had sent 42 patients for Mistletoe therapy at the Centre for Integrative Care at Gartnavel hospital. The article also stated there were two clinics in England as offering treatment "with possible NHS funding". The article states "patients in Scotland are being treated with an extract of the plant in the hope it can boost the body's immune system...

"An assessment by the NHS specialist pharmacy service found that laboratory testing of mistletoe indicated potential benefits, but there is currently no compelling evidence to support the use of mistletoe extracts in cancer therapy."

"Stefan Gelder, of the Camphill Wellbeing Trust in Aberdeen, a charity that offers the therapy, said it had helped some people. Claimed benefits include more energy and better appetites. His experience was that mistletoe has with some people but not all - an impact on tumour reduction."

I found this reference on the hospital website:

Mistletoe treatment in cancer patients

Cochrane review April 2008. Preparations from the European mistletoe (Viscum album L.) are among the most prescribed drugs in cancer patients in several European countries. Proponents claim that mistletoe extracts stimulate the immune system, improve survival, enhance quality of life and reduce adverse effects of chemo- and radiotherapy in cancer patients. The review found that there was not enough evidence to reach clear conclusions about the effects on any of these outcomes and it is therefore not clear to what extent the application of mistletoe extracts translates into improved symptom control, enhanced tumour response or prolonged survival. Adverse effects of mistletoe extracts were reported, but appeared to be dose-dependent and primarily confined to reactions at injection site and mild, transient flu-like symptoms. In the absence of good quality, independent trials, decisions about whether mistletoe extracts are likely to be beneficial for a particular problem should rely on expert judgement and practical considerations. Authors' conclusions: The evidence from RCTs to support the view that the application of mistletoe extracts has impact on survival or leads to an improved ability to fight cancer or to withstand anticancer treatments is weak. Nevertheless, there is some evidence that mistletoe extracts may offer benefits on measures of QOL during chemotherapy for breast cancer, but these results need replication. Overall, more high quality, independent clinical research is needed to truly assess the safety and effectiveness of mistletoe extracts. Patients receiving mistletoe therapy should be encouraged to take part in future trials.

[Weezer513]

Thank you everyone for the information!

[RonnyBaby]

It was offered to me - based on what I could read / learn / gather, it is questionable for PCa.

For those who want to try to throw everything but the kitchen sink at the disease, then you would proceed, at your own expense.

It's your life and your $$$$ - I decided it was most likely a waste of time and $$$$ - but I can't be sure and don't want to criticize those that decide to go for it.

Wishing you well on your journey ....

[Weezer513 in reply to RonnyBaby]

The dr prescribing it to my father has colleagues/friends at Sloan and from the price it might be doesn’t sound like it will cost too much. And I will be administering it to him myself. A family member who is a nurse will do it first but It’s subcutaneous injections like a glucose shot is.

[Hidden in reply to Weezer513]

Hi

Weezer513

If you're interested in complementary treatments that aren't too expensive then you might be interested in this PUB MED case report.

It's about a terminal pancreatic cancer patient who started using two supplements.

One was Essiac which is an old herbal remedy that's been around for almost a hundred years.

I'm the first to admit that there's no scientific evidence to show that it is effective, but I've been taking it for over 3 years and am very happy with my results so far.

Unresectable Pancreatic Adenocarcinoma: Eight Years Later

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Best wishes

Dave

[PeakClimber]

It usually gets me a kiss when I pull my wife under a sprig at the holidays

[j-o-h-n in reply to PeakClimber]

Hmmm kissing your wife under her sprigs sounds interesting. Tell us more.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Wednesday 09/09/2020 5:23 PM DST

[j-o-h-n]

Oh, by gosh, by golly

It's time for mistletoe and holly

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Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Wednesday 09/09/2020 5:26 PM DST