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OMG, loved the quote "We don't have randomized controlled trials of kids running with scissors, do we?" I'm not a kid anymore, but I'll fudge my paperwork to get into that trial :-)

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Who are they fooling ? Not me. I predict that meat industry is going to go down like cigarette industry. Tobacco promoters fooled people for a century.. but truth finally came out. Meats future is similar to tobacco as more and more young and educated Americans are already giving up on meats.

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Hex40 in reply to LearnAll

Before I retired My client was a food service company. A rather large one. Just to add some perspective we sold about 8 million pounds of beef a week and climbing to restaurants across the country. I suspect the beef industry will be around for awhile. Another client I had was a food manufacturer that has a subsidiary that is Oscar Mayer. Before the Fourth of July hotdog inventory was in the millions of pounds. Beef is consumed in many ways from fine restaurants to the ballparks. It’s really is part of our culture due to the affordability relative to other parts of the world.

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Hex...I do not mean that meat industry is going to go down soon. But, demise of meat industry is certain as more and more research from all over the world pile up about carcinogenic effects of meat.

Americans are very adaptable people and as we become more knowledgeable and more health conscious..bad .cultural habits will evaporate.\

To smoke cigarettes was so cool in 60s and 70s and 80s...it became part of American culture and everyone pretended to be "Joe the Camel" But when emphysema and Lung cancer became commonplace and clearly linked to cigarettes...Americans started mending their ways and stopped smoking and Phillip Morris ..the icon went bankrupt.

In next 50 years, KFC , Mc Donalds etc will either change or perish...Its the beginning of the end for Meat industry.

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Hex40 in reply to LearnAll

Well on the plus side we purchased about 5 million pounds of produce a day!

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Murph256 in reply to LearnAll

Has anyone tried the meatless burgers, such as Burger Kings Impossible Burger? I realize it’s filled with saturated fat and salt, but man does it taste good. Unless you knew, you would have no idea that burger was plant based. Also, has anyone tried KFCs Beyond Meat chicken?

So my question is, am I killing myself faster by eating plant based meats, or is it a viable alternative?

Veggie burgers and black bean burgers are tasty also. And I assume those are completely healthy.

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addicted2cycling in reply to Murph256

If I'm not eating meat, I DON"T WANT my burger to taste like meat. Yes I have tried meatless and some are very good.

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LearnAll in reply to Murph256

The meatless burger which tastes like meat is a very clever tactics to keep you hooked on meat.

Our desire to eat a certain food is based on memories in our brain of that food.

The marketing guys of these big franchises know that once some ones completely stops eating meat, the memory of meat will be gone in few months and they will lose that customer for good. Keeping the memory of meat alive is necessary for relapse of meat eating. Also, people who stop meat initially crave for it but once they are about a year mark their cravings for meat almost goes away.

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tom67inMA in reply to LearnAll

In a similar fashion, I've been cutting back slowly on sugar intake. Tried to treat myself yesterday by putting my old usual three sugar packets in my coffee but yuck, that's too sweet for my tastes now.

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LearnAll in reply to tom67inMA

I am now at zero sugar intake...I mean sucrose. I put Manuka Honey in my tea or sometimes Xylitol only small amount. My sugar cravings are gone. I still eat fruits so fructose goes in with fruit intake.

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Murph256 in reply to LearnAll

Oddly enough, I don’t crave red meat. I haven’t eaten it in months and don’t miss it. But you know what I do crave and have not been able to give up? Cheese.

And I’m not making much headway giving up chocolate either.

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tom67inMA in reply to Murph256

Fellow chocolate addict here. That and cheese go right to the reward centers in the brain, very hard to give up. I've always said "chocolate tells me I'm a good person".

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addicted2cycling in reply to LearnAll

WHO NEEDS TO CHEW, I'm gonna VAPE my steak. ;0)

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Currumpaw in reply to addicted2cycling

Hey addicted2cycling!

The last years that I ate meat it was organic, grass fed, free roaming in the pasture, doing cattle things, shoulder steak. It was always shoulder steak even before the switch to organic. One of the big differences in the two was that when eating the free range be ready to CHEW! Those cattle aren't confined to pens and develop muscle.

Currumpaw

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6357axbz in reply to Currumpaw

After much experience with grass fed grass finished beef I have found that within that class of beef there is a vast difference in quality. Raising beef is complex and has many variables that affect the final product. You can grade grass fed grass finished beef on a scale of 1 to 10 where 10 is the best, tasty and tender and 1 is crap. High end (properly cared for) grass fed/finished beef is tasty and tender but you must cook it way differently than regular beef. Low and slow is generally the ticket.

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Hey 6357axbz!

I ate the Rain Crow Ranch shoulder steaks. My Whole Foods market carries or carried beef from that ranch. I have been a vegan for quite some time now. It will be two years in January. I'm trying the Ruth Heidrich routine with a slightly modified diet. It isn't easy.

I understand somewhat about that which you speak. Grass fed--the last three months of their lives. When looking at different packages of organic, grass fed, ground beef you can tell it isn't the same as the fresh Rain Crow Ranch ground beef behind the glass. The folks at Whole Foods imparted a little knowledge to me.

I have a cat diagnosed with beginning kidney failure a year ago. I have fed him this and that. He was so weak places he just "elevated" to were no longer accessible. I started him on some grass fed burger once a day. Better! Whole Foods sells out quickly. One of the butchers took me to a cold shelf and showed me organic, ground, air dried vacuum packed chicken. He is doing so much better. Low and slow! That is how his chicken burger gets cooked. It takes over ten minutes.

Remember Adele Davis? This from Wikipedia--note her remark on ex-rays.

"In 1973 she was diagnosed with multiple myeloma and later died of the same disease in 1974 in her home at the age of seventy.[5] She attributed her getting cancer to her early years in college, where she ate junk food before learning about its negative effects on health, and to a number of x-rays she underwent. Before her death she stated, "In my opinion there is no question whatsoever that the terrific amount of cancer we have now is related to the inadequacies of our American diet."

Thanks for the info.

Currumpaw

A farmer down the road from me raises certified organic black Angus beef. Gold nuggets on hooves. He has a 6 month waiting list for his products. (He is 30 miles from Ann Arbor MI.)

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Yikes

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Break60

Thanks

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j-o-h-n

Weird....... I think my neighbor gave up eating meat and is eating light bulbs.... I walked by his house one night and overheard him saying to his wife.... "Honey, if you turn off the light, I'll eat it.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 12/10/2019 6:30 PM EST

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LearnAll

Today, I read this "red meat study" This study compared unprocessed red meat and processed red meat consumption....NOTABLY...this study did not compare Red meat with vegetarian diet.

The lead researcher of this study from a university in Canada worked for a company known as "international life sciences trade group" and the money for this study came from this trade group who is associated with meat industry.

God save us from ….fake News and Fake Studies....

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