I thought this article/results might be helpful for some of you: Most important paragraph from the article: "Men who were classified with high glycemia (blood sugar) on all three markers had “almost a five times greater risk of dying from prostate cancer,” compared to men who were normal on all three markers. Men with a diabetes diagnosis appeared to have a three-fold or greater risk of dying of prostate cancer – and so did men who did not have diabetes who had low blood sugar."
Does anyone know if there is a blood glucose level that is optimal within that 70-100 range???
In previous posts, I have contended that in PCa, insulin - not glucose - is the issue. Those who cannot control blood glucose will have insulin resistance & insulin spikes. i.e, there is a connection, but the fixation on glucose is misleading.
Less known is that those with hypoglycemia, are also subjected to insulin spikes. Hence, I believe, this:
"so did men who did not have diabetes who had low blood sugar" (have a greater risk of dying of prostate cancer) ... i.e, glucose is not the problem.
The aim is to reduce insulin resistance (i.e. increase insulin sensitivity.)
1] Use Metformin.
2] Limit carb intake. Try the ZONE approach, where every meal & snack has the same carb:protein:fat ratio.
A surrogate for measuring insulin resistance is the HDL-cholesterol:triglycerides ratio. One should aim to be in the 1:1 ballpark, IMO. That's easy to do when testosterone is high-normal, but not when on ADT.
Great info Patrick. Currently, For breakfast at 11 am, I eat steel cut oatmeal with healthy nuts and seeds and a small portion of fruit (berries or oranges or apples or watermelon or banana or pomegranate etc. ) and cinnamon. Maybe a 1/4 teaspoon of manuka honey. I often have matcha green tea with oyster mushrooms in it.
I sometimes have a veggie protein shake around breakfast time. Sometime before, sometimes after.
I eat some carrots or celery and unsalted mixed nuts for snacks usually during the afternoon.
For dinner I usually eat soup and salad. Organic salads with cucumbers, sunflower seeds, no dressing. Soup with wild Alaskan salmon or clams and quinoa, beans, and veggies and low sodium veggie brother.
My glucose has been around 97.
Do you or Nalakrats see anything that should be changed in order to lower the glucose and/or the insulin resistance just from a diet perspective? I'll have to talk to my doctors about Metformin.
Your breakfast is mostly carbs apart from the seeds & nuts. I can't answer your question without knowing how much fat in in those nuts. If the fat is ~40% total calories - as in the Med diet - it would really slow down the delivery of glucose to the blood.
You should check out the USDA database for the sugars in each fruit. e.g. bananas:
i.e. apart from the water, basically all carb, with half the carb as sugar & half the sugar as glucose (sucrose is half fructose & half glucose). Most of the glucose is immediately available to be pumped into the blood (the sucrose has to be split apart first).
Berries have a better profile.
A suggestion: eat like a diabetic is supposed to.
Your fasting glucose at ~97 puts you with a lot of men who are close to 100 - & the doctor never comments - as though ~100 is OK.
I shouldn't have put bananas because ive only been eating them the past few months since I started having abdominal/stomach pains five weeks ago. I guess I'll reduce the fruit a little. What the heck else can I eat for breakfast that is healthy, a salad? I dont eat dairy or meat because I think they cause cancer and grow cancer. I can drink a veggie protein shake in larger quantity.
"What the heck else can I eat ... that is healthy".
When I hear the word "healthy" I think I know what it means. Probably consistent with the food pyramid. I think a lot of people try to eat healthy, & that's why we have the silent epidemic of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
For me "healthy" is what has been proven to be heart-healthy (so far, only the Med. diet) & may be PCa-healthy.
I gave up on oats for breakfast. I enjoy the full grain (groats), but eaten without fat, my blood sugar begins to spike after 20 minutes.
I eat a variety of things for breakfast. I enjoy canned sardines & salmon - both are reliable sources of marine omega-3. I also have a supply of Scottish kippers in the freezer. I doubt that many consider fish to be appropriate for breakfast. That's not all I eat - just an example.
I don't eat a lot of fruit. The ratio of nutrients to sugars is poor. Non-starchy vegetables are far better. Two days ago, I ate leftovers from a Korean restaurant for breakfast. Lots of crunchy vegetables with a little spicy marinated pork in a tasty stir-fry. I haven't given up meat, but it isn't a very significant component of my diet. Moderation may be better than the spartan diets that remove essential nutrients.
I've adjusted my diet this week. I'm adding chard and onion to breakfast and dinner as well as the veggie and/or grass fed whey (no sugar) to breakfast. I eat a lot of almonds, walnuts, pecans, pumpkin seeds, black sesame seeds, and black cumin with my oatmeal.
I read some article by you, from 3 years ago, when you mentioned egg whites. You said some item in egg whites (other than choline) might be bad for advanced PCx patients. Have you learned anything new since then? Studies have shown almost 2 fold rate of death for those consuming eggs regularly compared to those that dont eat them. I was considering cage free egg whites a couple times a week.
What is the takeaway for this? I don't use any insulin or meds for diabetes. My blood glucose is 95. I'm just trying to do whatever it takes to extend lifespan. I have no idea if i have insulation resistance but i eat a low sugar diet.
Thanks Nalakrats, Do you have any thoughts on this:
Great info Patrick. Currently, For breakfast at 11 am, I eat steel cut oatmeal with healthy nuts and seeds and a small portion of fruit (berries or oranges or apples or watermelon or banana or pomegranate etc. ) and cinnamon. Maybe a 1/4 teaspoon of manuka honey. I often have matcha green tea with oyster mushrooms in it.
I sometimes have a veggie protein shake around breakfast time. Sometime before, sometimes after.
I eat some carrots or celery and unsalted mixed nuts for snacks usually during the afternoon.
For dinner I usually eat soup and salad. Organic salads with cucumbers, sunflower seeds, no dressing. Soup with wild Alaskan salmon or clams and quinoa, beans, and veggies and low sodium veggie brother.
My glucose has been around 97.
Do you or Nalakrats see anything that should be changed in order to lower the glucose and/or the insulin resistance just from a diet perspective? I'll have to talk to my doctors about Metformin.
I have only been eating the banana since March 1 when I started having stomach pains. I thought whey protein would be bad since all the studies linking dairy and beef to cancer. Wouldn't whey protein come from cows too and be bad also? I thought about grass fed cow protein but then I figured fermented veggie protein would be safer and still get me the protein I need. What am I missing?
I just tried to answer my own question and found this:
"Whey Protein Protection from Prostate Cancer
Free radical build-up in the prostate area is closely associated with the onset of cancer, EurekAlert.org explains. Researchers at Ohio State University treated human prostate cells with whey protein for two days and measured the glutathione levels after. The human prostate cells treated with whey proteins increased glutathione levels by as much as 64 percent. The experiment also demonstrated that the sample treated with a dose that was half the concentration of the other increased levels of glutathione by about 60 percent. This suggests that even a small dose of whey protein can be immensely beneficial to prostate cells. Whey protein contains cysteine, an amino acid that increases glutathione in the prostate. Cysteine helps to make healthy levels of glutathione in the prostate. Healthy levels of glutathione in the prostate protects the gland from cancer."
Thus, I presume that eating the cow meat is bad but the whey protein has a good effect?
Nal, there must be a hundred different Muscletech proteins. The only one I could find with 32g is shop.muscletech.com/product... . However, it may be discontinued as it is not on Amazon, Walmart shows it sold out and Muscletech website does not have an "Add to Cart" button for it. Is this the correct one and can you recommend another?
Nal, apparently your version was short lived. The following is what I received from their customer support:
I have looked into the Premium 100% Whey Protein plus Isolate, this product has been discontinued. However, I would like to suggest trying the Premium Gold 100% Whey Protein Plus Isolate.
I hope this information helps and should you require anything further, please don’t hesitate to reach out to us again.
Dolores
Customer Service Coordinator, Direct to Consumer
Well, the Gold version is $5 more and only 24g of protein. Do you think it will work as well?
Doloris works at Muscletech customer service so I assume it is their product. I cannot find any other 32g product from them. All 25g and 24g. If your Walmart has any 32g, you may want to stock up.
I hate to tell you all that the body can change one amino acid into any of the others in a blink of an eye. Do you think when the body is duplicating a DNA molecule it waits for a cysteine molecule before it goes on and just stops? It finds any amino acid and flips it around to the one it needs. Like serine to glut-amine or alanine etc. So many companies put powdered milk into their "Special" drink, then they have it analyzed and tell you that they have "made this special product of wonderful amino acids" when it is just powdered milk all along. Then they tell what is in it to make you think that this combination is better for you any other in the world. Your body will change it to what it needs anyway. I learned this in Pharmacy school. So skip the additives (food coloring, sugar, flavoring, and preservatives) and eat lean meats and egg whites in your regular diet.
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