We've covered this before, but here is another study that indicates statins seem to be a good idea for we PCaers. Water based ones, I think, are best. I take Rosvastatin- 5mg (supposed to be equal to 20mg of atorvastatin).
nature.com/nrurol/journal/v...
Craig
Unfortunately statins have not seemed to benefit my cancer. Started taking 60 mg of Symvastatin which dropped my lipids like a rock so it was reduced to 20 mg.. Then, reading here about possible good side effects for us, I asked to raise the dose to 40 mg. But after eight months of continuing slowly rising PSA I have concluded it was of no benefit to me so I've reduced the dose back to 20 mg. I hope others experience a better result with their cancer than I but at least I probably won't croak due to clogged arteries.
Happy Easter to all.
Re: at least I probably won't croak due to clogged arteries" ...
The correlation between cholesterol and longevity is mostly positive. i.e., for men over 65 and even more so for women beginning at birth, the higher it is, the longer they live. This entire sat fat => high cholesterol => cardiovascular disease (CVD) => decreased longevity is total BS. Hundreds of studies over many decades show this, while many researchers have tried and failed to find even one which shows otherwise.
You're lucky you don't lift weights. Simvastatin is almost certain to cause muscle pain and damage in strength athletes, to the point that in one study it all but ended the careers of several pro football players.
Diet is a much safer and more effective way to improve our lipids profile. It can very quickly and dramatically improve our real lipids threat markers ... our ratio of triglycerides to HDL and the particle size ... not the number or level ... of LDL.
And despite the correlation between taking statins and the lower incidence of PC, an independent review of the previous statin vs PC study concluded that in no way did it justify starting a statin just to fight PC. The correlation is just too weak to risk statin's many side effects, and is negligible after recurrence. Don't forget that the hard data on statins show that for every 200 people taking them, 199 get only SEs ... no benefit ... and the one person who does benefit gets about 4 months' worth. Worse yet, Simvastatin is one of the worst offenders in terms of SEs.
Simvastatin really aggravated my GERD/reflux. I switched to the lowest dose lipitor. I wasn't on statins prior to being diagnosed with PC. Did I close the barn door after the horses were already gone?
Of all the big name drugs ($125 billion in sales, IIRC) without a shred of evidence of benefit, Lipitor reigns as king of the BS.
I don't know about this latest, 2017, study, but another one just months ago said, "Yes. Starting statins after recurrence is pointless."
I love the scene in the Woody Allen film, "Sleeper" where the future scientists are discussing the thawed out Wood Allen character. Four hundred years in the past he owned the "Happy Carrot" health food store. One of the scientist was describing the food Allen sold. The other asked, incredulously, "You mean no deep fat! No chocolate cream pie!" The reply was, "At that time people thought organic vegetables and whole grains were good for you".
It's important to actively participate in control of our cancers. That is done by our choice of medical treatment, diet, life patterns, supplements, drugs. Those choices are based on the most convincing information we can find, filtered through our own personal life view and our body's reaction. The information available today is what we have. With prostate cancer we seem to be in a "Wild West" situation. Everything is in flux, studies and counter studies abound. But making choices in our own welfare is "treatment" in itself. We will all live longer and fuller than if we passively chose one doctor and said, "Heal me!".
Regards,
Craig
RE: " I do take 20 mgs of Statin. My Urologist and Oncologist agree"
I've never personally found but one doctor yet who doesn't throw statins at damned near anything that moves, despite statins' dismal track record when it comes to evidence. The only three providers I've personally consulted who understand that the whole cholesterol scare is manufactured by Big Pharma were a nurse, a PA, and my integrative oncologist with clients all over the world.
I showed my carefully selected, unusually well-informed PCP/internal medicine specialist three books citing and summarizing hundreds of studies to that effect, and his only response was that it was not persuasive. Yet he couldn't produce one study supporting the sat fat/cholesterol/CVD hypothesis.
If you do take statins be sure to take a CoQ10 supplement. I heard that statins reduce CoQ10, which is essential for heart health.
Statins' intended function is to reduce CoQ10. Both cholesterol and CoQ10 are vital to our lives.
Which one, atorvastatin?
Osteoporosis and PCA
Capsaicin + Lycopene and PCa
Statin and COX2 inhibitor for MCRPC?
which statin?
Wheat and pca
