waking up body aches and dry mouth ?

[Lunachild_4]

So I have now made changes to my diet , I’m taking natural supplements and stopped any alcohol altogether but I’m still waking up feeling exhausted and ache all over . Is this part of my ADHD ? I so fed up feeling this way . Any suggestions or advice. ? Thanks 🙏

[starsallover]

I wake up the same way. There's so many things that can cause these issues, so I doubt it could be pinned on adhd specifically. It may be some of the things we're more prone to though. Interesting question. ADHD ers are more prone to sleep problems, and over time poor sleep can make you achey. I know that when I first started thinking about having ADHD, I thought about everything that bothered me and wondered if ADHD could be the cause. Same with other health conditions I have . It's human nature to want to know the WHY of everything.

[Lunachild_4 in reply to starsallover]

Thank you for the reply and makes me feel better to know I am not alone . I definitely seem to be more aware of how I’m feeling since being diagnosed last year . Im not on any medication aa yet as I’m in the Uk and there are shortages so who knows what will happen or if they will start newly diagnosed people on it ! 😊

[Lunachild_4 in reply to starsallover]

Do you take any supplements that help ? Thanks

[STEM_Dad]

Dry mouth is likely due to having your mouth open when you are asleep.

If you are taking ADHD meds, dry mouth is a more common side effect. Stimulant medications can also have a negative effect on sleep quality, but it's usually that it delays a person falling asleep.

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People with ADHD tend to move more in their sleep. Teeth grinding is also more common in people who have ADHD than for people without the disorder, and might contribute to both dry mouth and muscle soreness in the jaw, face and neck.

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The combination of body aches and dry mouth might be caused by sleep apnea. Not all sleep apnea is due to breathing obstruction.

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I used to wake up sore all the time when I slept on a flat bed. Several months ago, I got a hammock to sleep in at night, and my sleep quality has improved. Now, I rarely wake up sore. --- According to my kids, I also don't snore anymore...or at least not as much as I used to.

(I wouldn't recommend sleeping in a hammock at night unless you really like hammocks. Any movement might start me swaying. Sometimes the swaying is very soothing, but sometimes it's distracting enough that it delays me falling asleep. The creaking of the metal hammock stand is annoying. However, I REALLY, REALLY LIKE how the hammock conforms around me and spreads out my weight across my whole body, sort-of cradling me. When I slept on a flat mattress, I always felt the pressure of my weight on just a few points.)

[STEM_Dad in reply to STEM_Dad]

Of course, there is something else that causes me to sleep poorly sometimes, and I wake up sore in the morning as a result: stress.

Feeling stressed or anxious can make it hard for me to fall asleep, hard to stay asleep, and can make me feel like I'm not sleeping well at all. It's usually due to family, work, or financial stress. But I can also worry over the stupidest little things (like suddenly remembering that I have an overdue library book, or wondering if I turned the thermostat down enough for the night).

[Lunachild_4 in reply to STEM_Dad]

Hi thank you for the reply , that’s sounds different and great it helps your sleep 😴. I’m not on any meds at present and have never been started on any after being diagnosed last September as there are shortages over here in Scotland . So who knows when or even if I will be ! But I’m not worried about that any more just trying to get my body healthy and gut just now . Really fed up waking up at 5am every morning feeling like I have a hangover and sore all over. Not sure if taking my vitamin supplements is having any impact or not . I do also stress over the tiniest things as it sounds like you so also ., just the way our unique Brains work 😊. I’m a domestic worker and I’m struggling doing that part time due to my energy but I need to work and it’s less intense I suppose than facing the public one on one .

[Mamamichl in reply to Lunachild_4]

Have you told your doctor? It’s possible you need a sleep study and a cpap machine. Snoring or sleeping with your mouth open has impact on dry mouth, and can be caused by sleep apnea. Cpap wont help with dry mouth but it will help energize you if you’re suffocating yourself in your sleep. It’s common that people’s tongues cover their throats (especially if your tonsils and adenoids are big).

I know I grind my teeth at night, so I use a sleep guard made by my dentist. However, the sleeplessness and grogginess has been helped by sleep meds, like trazodone. Although I still wake up early, I’m not as groggy. I was recently still having trouble waking up several times in the night, so my med was raised. And the past couple nights have been great.

[Schilddruse]

I would get your thyroid levels tested as those are typical symptoms of hypothyroidism - the tiredness is common to so many conditions of course, but the dry mouth less so. Hypothyroidism appears to be more common in autistic people, so maybe given the huge overlap between autism and ADHD, it's also more common in peopke with ADHD.

Hypothyroidism causes a huge number of symptoms, both physical eg fatigue and psychological eg anxiety and ADHD-like symptoms. That's not to say you don't have ADHD, but hypothyroidism will exacerbate it.

If you don't get anywhere with your GP (most are clueless), the cheapest test is from Monitor your Health (an NHS lab!). it's just under £30, but you can use the discount code THYROIDUK10 from this site to reduce the cost a bit. Don't rely on their "optimal ranges" or "doctor's advice", but run your results past the thyroid forum on this website.

Best of luck!

[Lunachild_4 in reply to Schilddruse]

Good morning , very interesting and thank you . I got my thyroid levels checked a couple of years I think and all was ok by the doctors does this one on the site check more ? I had a look at their tests so may try it . I got a food intolerance one done on another site and showed up milk , eggs and wheat so cut out all of that . Taking supplements but nothing is helping I’m just soo tired all the time. Thanks 😊

[Schilddruse in reply to Lunachild_4]

The NHS doesn't even test the active hormone (FT3) yet it's the absolutely critical one. Bizarrely though, an NHS lab tests FT3 if you pay privately! I would really recommend looking at the thyroid forum.

Those food intolerance tests are worse than useless. They test for antibodies to commonly eaten foods which is why you've been told to exclude such everyday products. They don't test for anything you might be having an adverse reaction to. My advice would be to go back to a normal diet, otherwise you might well be depriving your body of essential nutrients it needs to function well.

[Lunachild_4 in reply to Schilddruse]

I’m going to order the test thank you 😊. I’ve had insomnia for over 15 years for as long as I can remember so anything is worth a go . My food intolerance test was through testme in Scotland . Thanks again

[Lunachild_4 in reply to Schilddruse]

Thanks so much I’ve got the test in my basket and used the discount code ! Do you think it tests more than the doctor tests for thyroid as pretty sure it came back ok couple years ago ? 🙏

[Schilddruse in reply to Lunachild_4]

Yes - see my other post. Please come back to me if you want help interpreting the results. Don't rely on Monitor my Health's reference ranges.

[Lunachild_4 in reply to Schilddruse]

I’ve ordered it so it will be interesting to see if anything shows up. Thank you 🙏

[Schilddruse in reply to Lunachild_4]

You're welcome!

[Mamamichl in reply to Schilddruse]

I never knew my thyroid could have something to do with my adhd, or possible asd. Thanks for letting me know! Yes, my symptoms were pure exhaustion, like I ran a marathon. It also affected my apetite though and I lost 30 pounds in a matter of 2 months. You could see if your doc is willing to get a t3, t4 or tsh blood test to see if they are in the normal range. If they aren’t, you can get sent to an endocrinologist.it can go haywire in less than a month, btw.

[Schilddruse in reply to Mamamichl]

Unfortunately, here in the UK GPs and the vast majority of endocrinologists won't test FT3 levels. Bizarre, I know!

[Mamamichl in reply to Schilddruse]

That is so messed up. My mom was the first diagnosed with Graves’ disease. When I told my doc she had it and I was concerned, they did it. We are in the US though. I remember my mom took a long time to diagnose though.

[Schilddruse]

You could try melatonin if you haven't already. You can get it online eg from European pharmacies.

[Lunachild_4 in reply to Schilddruse]

Tried a couple of times from the doctor and no help unfortunately and all the supplements you can imagine plus cbt therapy , acupuncture, hypnotherapy etc . I also get very dry eyes at night

[Lunachild_4]

Thanks but think not more to it that old at 43 👍

[Lilwonder in reply to Lunachild_4]

It could be related to hormone changes of peri-menopause. Super common. The good news is it won’t last forever and HRT might really help. I’m a Physio and I see it all the time, have experienced similar myself.

[CHADDMOM]

Hello Linachild_4

I have Fibromyalgia and RA. If there was a recent stress or insult to your body, something on the bigger side of normal bumps and bruises, this can develop. Mine started after a hospitalization for an allergic reaction to sulfa. Sometime this can happen after birth or anything really. There are no current lab markers for it and it is diagnosed by the 18 diagnostic trigger points… however they no longer rely on just this information any more. I would see a rheumatologist and have some tests done to rule out other things. Our lives are very stressful and stress, seems to be the one consistent thing that can bring on a flare. A flare is an exacerbation of symptoms. I hope you get some answers and find ways to feel better. 💐