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[LFC65]

Does anybody know of a free online CBT course. Really need to find a way of coping with it without having to put a drink in my lips. Any recommendations gratefully received.

♥️

[Happyrosie]

I haven’t tried it myself but several posters here have talked about Julian Cowan Hill on utube. So many people have been helped, and they may not come back on to this forum because they don’t think about tinnitus any more, but I do hope someone will guide you further.

[LFC65 in reply to Happyrosie]

Thanks appreciated.

[Hel_C]

On this forum somewhere is a research post and I've just joined a 12 week programme using a mindfulness app.

[LFC65 in reply to Hel_C]

Thanks appreciated.

[Gregorianne]

Your GP can refer you to NHS talking therapies. The CBT will be for anxiety which is absolutely relevant since it is anxiety about tinnitus which causes the distress. There may be a waiting list…

[LFC65 in reply to Gregorianne]

Thanks appreciated.

[TinnitusUKPat Partner]

As an introduction to Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, the NHS' Every Mind Matters website has some resources which you can access at no cost - nhs.uk/every-mind-matters/m...

There are apps on the various smartphone stores which offer AI-based CBT (which are not intended for use by people in immediate crisis) like Wysa and Finch, but can help build some structure and goals if that would be helpful in someone's situation.

Depending on where you live, the SilverCloud CBT service - which is self-directed but has an assigned team member checking in on user progress - may be available, for free, via your GP/local health authority.

[LFC65 in reply to TinnitusUKPat]

Thanks appreciated.

[LFC65]

Thanks to all.

[mzkitty]

Hi, I was recommended to try 'Daylight' - a free app approved by the NHS. I had previously tried a CBT course my doctor suggested but that didn't work for me. For some reason the way that 'Daylight' works and how you interact with it DID work - although it too is CBT based - just a different way of presenting it.

There's also 'Sleepio' - another free NHS approved app - looks like it's been created by same people as 'Daylight'. It also helped me and is also CBT based.

Good luck.

[Untold]

I don't want to be a killjoy here but I don't get this CBT, mindfulness approach. I've spent enough time talking about T to doctors, tmj specialist, ENT specialists, ENT Professors, osteopaths, chiropractors etc. to last a lifetime, so talking about 'awareness,' 'space,' breathing properly, (I've been breathing for sixty three years so I've got that sussed) Zen Buddhist meditation, tinnitus retreats that cost thousands where you discuss 'mindfulness.'I'm sorry but I just don't get it. Sounds like some happy clappy, candle burning. Kumbaya singalong.

Can someone put me right on this. Being aware of the space around me, how I'm thinking, what I'm thinking, how can this possibly help me with the screaming ringing/hissing in my head or the spikes I get each time my foot hits the floor when I'm walking, or the crackling noises in my ears, or the electric shock type tinnitus zaps that I get.

If I'd lost a limb for instance, how is talking about it going to help.

Sorry for the misery contained within my post but I really am losing the will to live.

Love and silence to all.

[Happyrosie in reply to Untold]

I’m sorry you feel this way since there have been many posts here saying how much CBT has helped them,

Of course they may no longer post on here because it’s no longer a problem and they don’t want to think about it any more.

[TinnitusUKPat Partner in reply to Untold]

Hi Untold.

I guess what those approaches might help with is acceptance of symptoms which are proving elusive to diagnose or to get direct treatment for.

I'm no particular fan of expensive retreats or activities which lock out people who struggle with conditions because they can't afford to pay for them - but I think I can speak for the charity generally when I say that we would never recommend those kinds of interventions in the first place.

I don't know the specifics of your situation, but I would agree that if you feel as though you are losing the will to live, CBT isn't for you, nor is mindfulness. Both of those approaches tend to work well for people whose low mood is not deemed to put them at immediate risk or harm or who have anxiety disorders but are able to function in everyday life.

A counsellor isn't necessarily trained to support someone who feels despondent, is clinically depressed or has expressed suicidal ideation and they should hand off caring responsibility to someone who is trained to support patients, prescribe medication or if necessary escalate a case to a more senior medical expert.

What the approaches you've questioned might be helpful with are to interrupt the fight-or-fight instinct and tendancies towards clinically diagnosed neuroticism (verywellmind.com/how-neurot... in people who experience them.

I can't say with any degree of certainty - particularly as I'm not medically qualified - what your situation is but I hope that you are able to achieve some form of relief with your tinnitus. Perhaps the original poster (and others in this thread) have different circumstances to you?

[surreycccfan]

You can self refer for online NHS talking therapies (CBT) here nhs.uk/service-search/menta...