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COVID and hypo symptoms?

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I had been under the impression that we had a dedicated post, but apparently we don't.

I have heard that some hypo patients have a rush of hypo symptoms with a COVID infection, but am unsure if that might be the norm, or if some hypo patients don't experience anything other than cold-like symptoms like the majority of people do.

Has anyone here had COVID? How was it for you as a thyroid patient?

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I had covid 2 weeks ago and have felt unmedicated since. So many hypo symptoms came back. It been a really worry.

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I'm very sorry to hear that and hope that things resolve for you soon.

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Regenallotment

I have noticed I feel under medicated when fighting off any cold or flu bug (Covid included). Seems to take me longer to recover. Hubby shared the bug and is better in 48 hours. Me not 🤒. My diagnosis of Hashi’s was post covid though. (Although I now know I had it in my teens/twenties). A yoga classmate told me she ups her T4 dose by 25mcg when she has a cold or flu and the drops it down. I haven’t tried that, she’s in her 70s and been on Levo for decades. How about you? 💚

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raglansleeve in reply to Regenallotment

The only illness I've had since being diagnosed in 2017, was what I thought to be a cold in January 2020. Looking back though, it may have been a mild version of COVID, before it was known as "the pandemic". Having read things about COVID and hypo patients though, had me quite worried. I'm sorry that you take longer to recover now, from any sort of bug.

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Lulu2607 in reply to Regenallotment

Similar for me Regenallotment. I definitely felt undermedicated with Covid, with a return of some hypo symptoms. I increased my levo by 12.5 mcg for a few weeks afterwards but then felt able to drop my dose back. I feel my energy levels have not fully returned yet though after having Covid in September.

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Regenallotment in reply to Lulu2607

ugh it’s awful isn’t it, I had whole days weeks later when I could only sit and look at the sky.

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TiggerMe

Not had covid thankfully but just the jab sent my estrogen into a tail spin, estrogen very important for the immune system, low estrogen feels very much like Hypo

If you are fighting an infection you are going to be eating up more estrogen

If you have HRT it's easier (and quicker/more adjustable) upping your dose to see rather than messing with your thyroid meds? Hopefully refind your balance

Here comes the science bit... ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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raglansleeve in reply to TiggerMe

I hate messing with my thyroid meds. I had a recent bout of over-medication and it really scared me. Not sure if I'd be willing to tweak things if I got sick.

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userotc in reply to TiggerMe

I trust you completed an MHRA yellow card for the jab side effects you experienced?

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TiggerMe in reply to userotc

I don't think I did as I had what was classed a standard reaction, fever, chills, high temperature for 4 days. It just knocked me sideways as I was peri-menopausal, very low on T3 and not eating a great deal due to IBS, so it was just the final straw really 😕

Done my upmost to avoid the real thing though

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userotc in reply to TiggerMe

A Y/card seemed warranted after you said "the jab sent my estrogen into a tail spin". I realise it's difficult to know what's causing what and Im sure that contributes massively to non-reporting. Many estimate that the serious side effects may be 20-100x what's reported.

Glad youve been able to dodge the virus.

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TiggerMe in reply to userotc

I've now had 3 or 4 more jabs without issue as I have increased all of my levels thankfully with guidance from this site.... the great thing about a transdermal estrogen spray or gel is you can easily adjust when your body is under attack.

I had a quick look at your bio and I will add that my kidney function has also improved under the new regime 🤗 which is promising as my mother ended up on dialysis 😕

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userotc in reply to TiggerMe

Glad your kidney function improved. I presume you cant be sure which part of your regime has helped it but I realise all different body systems can be linked.

If youve read some of my kidney posts you'll know that we have almost doubled my mum's eGFR (and removed her BP tablet) via nutrition only and there is now evidence that dialysis is extremely unlikely for her to which her nephrologist agrees (cant find fingers-crossed emoji but implicit!).

We are extremely wary about drugs, largely due to my bad experience, so we are all drug-free except for our 17.5y old dog with dementia who is trialling one!.

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TiggerMe in reply to userotc

💜🐕 oh sweet. The biggest improvement for my kidneys came with the T3, metabolism kicked in, mucin build up dealt with in 6 weeks. Things are still improving as I am now also able to eat a more balanced diet and supplementing the missing bits.

Like you say keep things as natural as possible and avoid the unnecessary pills 😉🤗

You are doing your Mum proud! Wish I had questioned my Mum's treatment at the time but she was always 'I'm fine don't make a fuss' next thing we know she was on dialysis... thyroid never mention or treated 🙄 now with my brother and sister also hypo...hindsight 😱

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thyr01d in reply to TiggerMe

Thank-you Eeyore for this information, really helpful. Can you tell me something else please? Does oestrogen gel affect the immune system in the way you are describing? I was surprised to be told recently that the gel does not affect thyroid hormones and now wonder what it does and doesn't do. Many thanks :)

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TiggerMe in reply to thyr01d

Hi, my understanding is that all hormones affect each other which is why balance is so important, if you raise or lower one it will have some knock-on effect, female immune system differs from the male system and runs on estrogen

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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thyr01d in reply to TiggerMe

Hi Eeyore and thanks for your reply. My understanding is the same as yours but someone knowledgeable on here said oestrogen gel would not affect thyroid hormones. I was wondering if you know about the gel specifically, it sounds as if it's different from, say, pills.

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TiggerMe in reply to thyr01d

I use Lenzetto transdermal spray, they all raise your hormone levels, but the tablets go through your stomach and liver rather than straight into your bloodstream via the skin...does that help?

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thyr01d in reply to TiggerMe

Thanks Eeyore, I'm still unsure, if the gel is raising the oestrogen level then I can't see why that would not affect thyroid hormones in the same way as if was delivered through the stomach.

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TiggerMe in reply to thyr01d

Some are far more sensitive to this than others maybe?

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thyr01d in reply to TiggerMe

Hmm, well the other person on here said if it was gel it would definitely not affect thyroid hormones, and I think he was a doctor. My thoughts were the same as yours.

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TiggerMe in reply to thyr01d

Perhaps the 'he' or 'was' is the answer 😉 how can it not affect it?

We aren't all convinced by what comes out of some medic's mouths... often that is why we are here 😳🤣

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thyr01d in reply to TiggerMe

My thoughts exactly - if the gel is not affecting the other hormones in my body I can't see how it can be doing its job!

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StitchFairy in reply to thyr01d

I think the only reason for avoiding stomach with HRT and other things like vit D ( a pro-hormone) is to be sure not to affect absorption of thyroid hormones which can only be taken orally. Surely once the HRT is in your body, it will still affect the overall hormonal balance.

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thyr01d in reply to StitchFairy

My thoughts exactly StitchFairy but the medics on here seem really keen to help us so I'm reluctant to think I know better!!!

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arTistapple

I have not had COVID, to my knowledge. However I would just like to mention here, as it seems appropriate, something that happens to me that seems unusual when I am coming down with a bug. Does this happen to anyone else? About 24 hours before I realise I have some bug - I feel very well indeed. I feel like a normal person. I can DO things. I can think clearly. I can be happy. I think of it as something to do with the immune system tuning up for what is to come. Any similar?

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raglansleeve in reply to arTistapple

That's very interesting.

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Goforitmum

Had Covid early September. Two days of being out of breath from time to time, felt disoriented and had a cough if I tried to talk which lasted about 10 days. On my 3rd day I was out walking hills (very very cautiously but I did it). No effects to hypo symptoms at all. I’d had my 4th booster shot about 4 weeks before I got Covid and in my opinion that is what made my symptoms so mild. I’ve honestly had worse colds.

My long Covid is a cough that comes a couple of times each day. I’ve been told to expect it to last for around 6 months.

We’re all different, and I sympathize with anyone who has it. I hope anyone with Covid recovers quickly.

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Framboise

I had Covid 5 weeks ago and it lasted just over two weeks. It started with a sore throat and a sudden very high temperature. I felt ill for about four days, began to feel better after one night when I had a real fever, but stayed in bed for another week because I was so exhausted. I didn't have any problems with my breathing and tested clear on day 11. During that time I forgot to take any Thyroid-S for a couple of days, which I often do if I'm ill because of getting out of synch with timing, but none of it affected my thyroid as far as I was aware.

We hadn't been able to get the winter booster because our GPs do these for all their patients in a Saturday clinic and had been fully booked, until November. Despite this my husband, who isn't in the best of heath, didn't catch it from me. I always catch anything going, he never does! Since then my daughter, who does not have a thyroid problem, has had a very heavy cold and has felt really ill for three weeks, but not tested positive for Covid. I wasn't as ill with it as she has been with whatever it is she has.

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raglansleeve in reply to Framboise

I wonder if that last week in bed though (the exhaustion) could have been a thyroid issue? I'm like your husband (but always hate saying that about myself in case I get jinxed), and rarely get colds or bugs of any sort. I don't think that I've ever had the flu, and get a cold about once every 7 years or so. I do have a gene (common to about 20% of the population), that prevents infection from noroviruses. Maybe your husband has the gene too.

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Framboise in reply to raglansleeve

How interesting about the gene! I hadn't heard of that before. I get several colds a year, apart from the last two years of mask wearing, and have had flu twice in my life.

I'm not sure about the exhaustion being a thyroid issue. From talking to friends who don't have any thyroid problems and who've had Covid, they've also been exhausted, one for a couple of months. Another reason I stayed in bed was because, 16 days after becoming ill, I had an annual evening event to go to in London, which I knew would be tiring anyway but was determined to get to. The previous day I got up for the first time, went shopping and had to rest when I got home. The trip to London was fine apart from almost fainting after standing talking to people for an hour, but that part of the evening is always a bit difficult to stand through. The journey by train was also ok apart from when the return one was cancelled. I'd say that if the exhaustion was thyroid related, it wouldn't have resolved so well and that day would have been more difficult than it was. However, I'm one of those people who can go a couple of days with no NDT and not notice any difference. I know some people need almost to keep to a strict time every day or they start to notice hypo symptoms.

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raglansleeve

We're all so different, aren't we? I'm glad that you were able to get to your event in London.

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