Had a review with some of my medication as been on it far longer than NICE recommends. I dont think the Dr read my notes very well, Sure he missed out the section patient is highly reactive and allergic to BS ( bull****)
Dr - You have depression.
Me - I know, its the side effects of that pill you put me on causes it.
Dr - No its not that depression.
Me -Oh what is it special depression that isnt medication created?
Dr Now youre being silly.
Me - No sorry cant do that the side effect says depression, low mood, lethargy and dry mouth. Silliness isnt mentioned.
Dr - No need to be like that
Me - You started it with my "special depression". Did I catch it, is it contagiou,s will it make me 6ft tall with blonde hair and legs that go on forever and figure that stays a slim and perky?
Dr - No. No. Really that is not the attiude to take.
Me - oh attitude it mentions that in the side effects of the medication. It says will make user react to Bull **** with flippancy, attitude and juggling with an overwhelming compulsion to shrink heads of those who sprout BS.
Dr - Speechless.
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Wow! Bet he couldn't believe how the review was going. Isnt it weird though how often you see on here that so many doctors will happily treat you for 'depression' but not for your thyroid.
really good. mine said he could not treat me with something he had never been taught about. (NDT T3 etc.) he would have to consult with his colleagues. I am a very difficult case! Would he be giving me any thyroid treatment? his colleagues were split on their decision as to whether they would treat me or not, he is still undecided! meanwhile, my other gp has today referred me to Dr. Gordon Skinner ! I see him THIS Monday. I can't wait. Don't know what part-time gp will say about that.... but ... I DON't CARE!
Congrats on getting your referral to Dr Skinner. Hope it's going well. I've just been diagnosed hypo thyroid by endocrinologist last week and already i am having ridiculous conversations with GP similar to above!! Do you mind me asking how you got your referral to Dr skinner. My GP won't refer me because he is a virologist and she wants to treat me herself.
He's a virologist by qualification but has spent many years researching and treating thyroid disorders. He also works alongside a qualified endocrinologist so I'm afraid your GP's argument doesn't really hold.
You could always see how your GP gets on treating you and if you don't get better you could then insist on a referral. After all, she's not an endocrinologist either!
Thank you for your response. I have had over twenty years of hell, and in the last eighteen months have had a lot of personal issues to contend with. My old gp, said I was a hypochondriac, an unhappy person, who needed fresh air and exercise and I would be fine. I had a family history of underactive thyroid and countless signs and symptoms, but no one listened, including a very arrogant endo. Basically, I was MAD and there would be no return to sanity, like it or lump it !!! Well I am at a new surgery, I didn't like it and I wasn't going to lump it any longer. I had been in a very bad place and already said goodbye to my twenty one year old son. I had bloods done TSH 7.8 and told it was SLIGHTLY risen but didn't really need treating, (I said I would self medicate) Anyway, during another bad patch (at 1am) I wrote a seventeen page letter to my gp (+part time gp who I sometimes see) the practice manager (to put in my file) and my new psychiatrist (seen once). I was desperately asking for help and if they didn't give it, and anything happened to me, my proof would be in my file ! My gp called me the next day, I asked to be referred to Dr. Skinner (something my old gp REFUSED to do) she said she couldn't do that, but I pointed out that although he has been in front of the gmc, he is still practicing, because he has done NOTHING wrong! and other gp must refer people or Dr. Skinner wouldn't have any patients, would he? She thought about it, said no he wouldn't, and referred me, done my letter and I got a cancellation. Thankfully, I haven't looked back since. ( sorry I have not posted this, but I've been away and my computer was offline for a wee while too). Dr. Skinner knew just by looking at me that I had a longstanding problem thyroid, he recons underactive for 21 years, firstly, causing my severe post natal depression. ( a Thyroid Crash, this May be a cause of PND in Some women) then being behind my years of physical and mental health mealtdown.
Dr. S. has put me on Levo, 25mg, 1 week - 50mg 3 weeks - 75mg 3 weeks etc. until I find my optimum dosage. (this is now my sixth wee on levo) and gp will do bloods before I see him at the end of September. Now, my gps and psychiatrist are all astounded at the changes in me, I feel like a different person, as though the black cloud is lifting, (obviously, not 100%) I still have Fibro and lots of other things, and very bad days too, but I now have Hope, They are listening, at last, and have agreed to medicate me as requested by Dr. S. They had all Googled him !!! My lady gp said I had been in such a terrible state, she really wanted to help me, and was glad she had referred me AND gave me a HUG !!! I am very fortunate IF Levo continues to suit me, I'll wait and see if they would give me T3 if I needed it ??? ( my weight is down by 24 lbs!) Although, Warkhardt 25mg are fine, Mercury 50mg did not agree with me, (dizziness) I now have only 25s Workhardt !
I have no one else around now to fight for me, I must continue to do it for myself, Doctors don't frighten me any more, they are Not Better than me, just People doing a Different job. (if I still had one ! lost mine in April due to ill health).
Stick with it Bella 124, don't let them p___ you about for twenty years, read up on as much information as you can.
My lack of Thyroid treatment, has cost me a lot, especially my 24 year marriage. (there was no one else involved, just my illness) I'm not suffering that loss for nothing, I owe it to myself to get my health back for Me, and maybe some day I'll get my husband back too ? - but - Time will tell?
Please don't give up, we all know our own bodies, I will know when my meds are right for me not a tsh test. Well I guess that you weren't expecting a book to be sent as your reply, sorry about that.
I hope you have family and friends to help you, but you have to keep that glimmer of hope there, for YOURSELF, if I hadn't believed deep down, that I WAS RIGHT all along, I would have been gone long ago.
Stay Strong, (It' not easy, even now)(this is the hardest thing I've ever done) I am sending you my best wishes and a big hug.
Hi Evey Thanks for sharing all that and I am very angry and sorry for your battles. Whoever said that women aren't strong! I have a feeling you are going to win the war though and am so relieved that you are in some capable hands now.I have experienced similar problems myself particularly re doctor's attitudes over the last 8 years and the frustration and helplessness you feel when a medical professional perhaps isn't acting very professionally. Best of luck with Dr skinner. Let me know how it goes. I got my referral to him today. Yey! Only took a month of pestering GPs. I plan to take dessicated thyroid though as levothyroxin has done nothing for my dad (family history of thyroid issues) and if you check out "stop the thyroid madness" website it says that dess thyroid is the best for treatment of depression xxxx
lol!
IMHO - depression is a symptom of something wrong! And one symptom which never seems to need blood tests or anything else to confirm treatment........ hmmm, sadly there's more funding for it 'tho!
being nosey, what were those pills then, with the other non 'special' depression side-effects, and added bonus 'silliness'?
its becoming increasingly clear that depression is only a symptom and not a disease in itself.
I wish I was in the surgery during during ravenhex's consultation. Its amazing to see GPs faces when you don't just accept what they say. Being cheeky? Well I never!
clear to us but sadly not clear to others, thanks Nbob. Trouble is we only have a limited time to keep being cheeky then it tends to fade, my experience only Jane
Do hire me away, I shall be on my bestest flippant behaviour. I charge extra for shrinking heads, especially if they are still attached to the body. LOL
We all need a sense of humour, be in to get through it or to have a good old giggle and relive some of our Dr induced tension.
My door is always open for chats or giggles, cake and bisquits. Maybe cake all depends if the bf has wolfed it already. Biscuits vanish as soon as they are out the oven. I swear I dont use invisiblity flour but it sneaks itself in and bingo, bisquits vanish?
absolutely superb humour girl , its better than some of these damn meds , I just wonder if the ' doctor ' [ ha ha ha ] had realised what he/she had bitten off before you entered the room and then chewed and spat them out . one good thing may be that before your next visit they may do a little bit more research ---- but I wont hold my breathe----keep going girl I cant wait for the next episode....LoL alan
Very few Drs know that Im the wicked witch of Leicestershire and to be handled with extreme caution. The rest, bless them are virgins fresh for my humour to unleash it self merciless on them. I do love de-flowering virginal Drs with my wicked tongue. Said in the bestest Carry On, stylee.
Some Drs forget ,but soon come to their senses quick and hit the padded cell protection button. That is the padded cell for them, not me. I dont look good in white padding it makes me rear look larger but comfy.
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if my levothyroxine isnt working, i guess my hypothyroidism is being left untreated? symptoms are raging... but doc says i am 'normal' tut
still feeling zapped
does this mean i have psychosis!!??
