Oxycontin law suit.

[Madlegs1]

Link to article about the Oxycontin law suit in USA. Question is-- how can some of us get our hands on some of the loot?😎

stuff.co.nz/business/world/...

[Hidden]

No wonder there is a opiate crisis going on in the USA, with drug companies being part of the blame. Resulting in so many who really need pain meds to survive to be denied of them by their doctors, this has resulted in suicide by patients.

[LanaCSR in reply to Hidden]

Exactly!! I also believe this has lead people who are addicted to pain medicine to turn to illicit substances when doctors refuse to prescribe them more of their pain medicine. Such a sad state of affairs....😥

[nightdancer in reply to LanaCSR]

YES! You win with the RIGHT answer!!!!!

[LanaCSR in reply to nightdancer]

😂

[Hidden]

I watched a documentary on how they lied about their drug and had it handed out 'like smarties' as they say. That company has a hell of a lot of blood on their hands.

The downside of the indiscriminate prescribing and false information on the drug means that many people that need opioids can't get them.

I'd say the only way to get some of the money will involve a balaclava and a gun I'll drive

[nightdancer in reply to Hidden]

Way more entities have "blood on their hands , not just the pharma company, but you can see that is my long reply below. Since i work with the Pain Community every day now, there is LOT more to the "opioid crisis", and it includes the gov't agencies- FDA, CDC, and the DEA.

[Jev1972]

Just because some asshole stole there parents oxy and overdosed doesn’t mean it’s a bad drug. Those of us that depend on opiates to be able to work and support our families are now suffering. Doctors and drug companies are to blame.

[Hidden in reply to Jev1972]

It wasn't just that simple. The Drug company lied about how addictive their drug was and convinced Drs to hand them out to anyone and everyone.

Drs are there to dish out drugs, simple as that. I would imagine few of us would go near Drs if we could source our own drugs and decent info online. So when people go to Drs complaining of bad pain why wouldn't they hand out the new non-addictive Oxycontin?

However, many Drs soon had suspicions the drug wasn't as safe as made out, (how in the hell did the Drs ever believe an opioid wasn't potentially addictive and ripe for abuse I'll never fathom), yet kept handing them out as opposed to identifying the problems - I'd put some blame on the American health system for that,

There is loads of blame to be handed out and many to receive it in this case, HOWEVER, drug companies have lots of money to fight their side and even the monies they are forced to hand over will be loose change to them.

[nightdancer in reply to Hidden]

That is true, but there is MUCH MORE to it. see my stuff I typed. I work with the Pain News Network also.

[Hidden in reply to Jev1972]

The opiate crisis is not just about the Oxy. its all opiates are being looked a upon as dangerous, addictive. Its not just Oxy, that is being denied to patients by doctors, its all opiates. The Oxy drug company is just part of the opiate crisis.

[nightdancer in reply to Hidden]

Good answer xx

[Madlegs1 in reply to Hidden]

The special case about Oxy is that it was claimed to last for 12 hrs- that is specifically why it got FDA approval. ( I believe the FDA official who approved it went on to work for Purdue. Obviously no link there ,whatsoever.😁)

The fact that it didn't last for the 12 hrs for a large cohort of patients, was then compounded by Purdue forcing doctors to increase the dose ,rather than spread it out. They would have lost approval, if they had admitted that it didn't actually do what they had claimed.

[Hidden in reply to Madlegs1]

I dont disagree with you , This reminds me of Mirapex, they kept alot secret about that med which came to light years later. It all comes down to ££££££ or $$$$$ and we as patients have to trust what we take will not harm us.

[Zbirth1]

I’m wanting to see a huge class action against company that made Mirapex. It’s evil 😤

[Hidden in reply to Zbirth1]

There has been one in the past.

[Zbirth1 in reply to Hidden]

I can’t believe they can still sell this.

[nightdancer in reply to Zbirth1]

They have to use these meds for Parkinson's MANY people CAN still use these drugs. They have the "black box" warning so people will know that. They had to be forced to put that warning out by the FDA. Every pharma company hides things.

[nightdancer in reply to Zbirth1]

Been done and done, as Elisse alluded to, in the US. Google it.

[Hidden]

I think there are two origins to the opioid crisis:1. Sometime in the 2000s (forget the exact year) the FDA changed their opioid labels from «short term use only» to «can be used long term». Like raffs says, the FDA lied about the addictive nature of opioids. 2. In one year (forget which one, but it was very recently), U.S. deaths caused by opioid overdose surpassed those of deaths caused by car accidents and heroin overdose combined.

[nightdancer in reply to Hidden]

The CDC, hon. Then the FDA had to get involved and they have been AWFUL, and the DEA has been raiding doctor's offices and taking patient files and they railing on ALL the doctors. The whole thing comes down to the government thinks they can practice medicine instead of doctors. see my other looooooong reply.

[Hidden in reply to nightdancer]

Will do. You’re in the U.S. and work with these people. I don’t, so I won’t say anymore. I appreciate all you do with your work!🙂

SO sorry about your uncle; that is truly awful!!

I hope you’re doing okay with your back and not in too much pain.

[nightdancer]

You would have to be in a class action lawsuit in the US by the state only. I work a =LOT with the Pain News Network. Anything you need to know about this or anything to do with chronic pain or how they are screwing us over with a "crisis" is on there. It is a MESS

[JagsB]

Have you been personally affected by addiction to Oxycontin?

[Madlegs1 in reply to JagsB]

Not addicted, but by the short life - I have to take more opiate than I desire.

[Morse123 in reply to JagsB]

I was on very high dosages of OxyContin (280mg day) for back pain. I’ve been on a reducing dose for over a year and am now on 40mg day.

My body still suffers withdrawal symptoms during the day, and at night my restless legs which have now returned, disturbs my sleep so I’m up most of the night. How I hold down my job as a nurse is a flipping miracle. I am single as I can’t even meet anyone new as the withdrawal symptoms make me too miserable to inflict on someone new.

The doctors who prescribed and then kept increasing the dose of OxyContin should spend a week in my life, and so should the company who said that they weren’t addictive.

[nightdancer in reply to JagsB]

NEVER any addiction for me, but other pain meds worked better on the RLS for ME.

[nightdancer]

the origin of the "opioid crisis" STARTS with the former Attorney General of the US, Jeff Sessions, and the CDC - Center for Disease Control. They put out "guidelines" only after speaking to 2 pain doctors that ALSO have financial interest in another drug company that makes ONE pain only, called Suboxone. The main doctor is named Andrew Kolodny in this mess, and he is a psychiatrist. He is persona non grata in the chronic pain community, BIG TIME. the group of doctors he is with that are getting kickbacks from that other company called Inseys. Anyway, over the last few years, the "guidelines" have been treated like law. Yes, Purdue played all kinds of games pushing their meds. But, the point is, everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to sue that company. In the meantime, opioid prescriptions are at an 18 year LOW, but suicides and overdoses are at an all time high. We have lost tons of people to suicide, because they have been riding the doctors to forcibly taper patients down. So people are getting desperate, they cannot get LEGAL meds, so they are going for the illegal fentanyl that come in from China, and/or heroin. THAT is the overdoses and suicides, NOT from the legal drugs. That jerk Kolodny , iike said is pushing Suboxone which is sublingual and was only made for cancer pain. It is WAY stronger than oxycodone or oxycontin. But NOW he is pushing that, and basically you follow the money and that is where all the answers land. My doctor who is great, still had me taper down to half the pain meds I was on last year. i just had rods and screws put into my crumbling spine, and it is 6 month recovery. I have been working with the Pain News Network for 4 years now. The stuff we hear every day is depressing!! My uncle, who was a big , tough Marine, had brain cancer. They cut his meds so much, he finally took his gun out to the back yard and you can guess the rest. THAT was when I got REALLY mad! Not at him, but at his doctors. They treat the veterans like crap! So, that has spurred me in. that is about all I can type now, but that tells the story of what is really going on, it is RARE compared to street drugs, to see OD's with the legal drugs. The problem is China, and the heroin dealers and the CDC for starting this!!! I am not in a lawsuit, by the way. But, this is the REAL story. Pain News Network is on Facebook and they have a big web site, too. Hope this explains a little better.

[Hidden in reply to nightdancer]

Thanks nightdancer, i knew you knew the facts of the "opiate crisis" .

[nightdancer in reply to Hidden]

You're welcome!

[Madlegs1 in reply to nightdancer]

I'm so sorry for your uncle, a real shame.

On a very general note, I can't help but see the irony in blaming China for the current Opiates crisis.

Back a hundred years ago, the Western "civilisations" specifically US and Britain actually went to war on the Chinese, specifically to force them to buy Indian opium ( British) to create an economy so they could sell and buy goods to America. Check out the Boxer Rising.

[nightdancer in reply to Madlegs1]

I know, but I am not placing all blame on China, it is just it is a fact that it comes thru the mail and in legal ports of entry. The most comes from China according to anyone who knows in the pain community. I am in a private group of about 50 group leaders, 6 pain doctors who have compassion and have nationally recognized names, 2 psychiatrists and 12 lawyers. We get LOT done, federal dockets, attend seminars all over the world. Definitely a great group of dedicated and informed people.

[Hidden in reply to nightdancer]

There is a US vet that posts on here - I was shocked at how once he has f**ked up his life in service of his country said country ignores his needs and treats him like scum - and the same f**kers would be the first to bleat on about how great the sacrifice of the armed forces.

[1stdoginohladdie]

I found an article by the FDA stating that people on low dose oxycodone 5/325 tylenol should not be considered addicts, but instead dependents on staying pain free. The pharmacy industry, for some reason, don't think that is a good idea. The Restless Leg Foundation is also visiting Washington D.C and speaking to legislators and indivisual senators to try to get them to understand what those of us suffer with the pain of RLS go through. THere are 50 bills in congress regarding this. They say we should not be bundled in with all opiod users and our doctors should be able to trusted to know their patients. There may be hope out there but who knows when it will become a reality.

[nightdancer in reply to 1stdoginohladdie]

Yes, even doctors transpose the words "addiction" and "dependence". Addicts will do whatever they need to get meds, even if it is to the detriment of their well being, family, job, etc. being dependent should not even make a difference on the dose. Pain patients who legitimately are in pain, take meds to so they CAN work, take care of their kids. We are always afraid of running out, and we count pills to make sure they will last the 28 days. I will purposely not take my pain meds for a couple of days every month, and it resets things and the dependence is less and they work better after a break. True addicts are not capable of skipping a few days.