Prostate cancer to me is amazing with respect to all the various permutations of the disease (Age, Gleason Score, Staging, DECIPHER, Degree of Metastasis) as well as Treatment (Active Surveillance, Surgery, multiple types of radiation and other local treatments, ADT, Chemo, etc. etc. Then there are other factors like the quality of care, etc. I know I am leaving out many many factors but you get my drift.
Its clear there is no one size fits all and we all end up with quite a labyrinth to try and figure out .
With this in mind and just for fun I have been playing with Googles public AI site:
What I found remarkable is you can throw as many details as you want at it and ask any question and it gives a reply which is reasonably comprehensive. Perfectly accurate? Only an expert would know but I think its far from horrible. Would I use it for treatment guidance? No Way - but it makes for an interesting source of information as we all dig for answers.
Just thought I would highlight for those of you who want to give AI a test drive on a subject you already know a lot about. Will be something to see where this is in 5-10 years.
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I am also on the website Inspire for Pca and they attempting to incorporate AI when someone posts or asks a question. Not being received well by some of their users. I took it for a spin, and it does not add much value to the discussions. I have been using MSN Chat to do some research, and I still prefer Google and Google Scholar, PubMed etc.
ChatGPT is a similar idea to Bard. I’ve been feeding them the same questions and comparing answers. The best advice I’ve come across for these type of bots is to regard them as your grad student — eager to please, but they don’t always get it right.
They do need some hand-holding every now and then. I’ve seen ChatGPT contradict itself, and even make simple math mistakes with unit conversions. OK then.
Research Aide is perhaps very interesting for those of us trying to read research publications. You can upload a PDF and then ask it questions — summarize the paper, what is relationship b/w A and B, did the paper mention X, Y or Z, what are the advantages and trade offs of the intervention, and etc. Pretty useful so far for me.
ChatGPT is nice b/c you can organize different conversations/topics in a nav sidebar. I haven’t seen this yet in Bard, but the advantage here is you can search across all questions/answers in one (long) conversation (just using browser-level search).
All conversations are preserved when logging off and later returning to ChatGPT. However, so far in Bard all I’ve seen is the questions are saved, w/o Bard’s answers. Boo hiss.
Bard does (sometimes) provide sources for its answers (ChatGPT doesn’t do this even if asked).
This kind of thing seems promising. And, potentially, more than a little bit terrifying.
Yeah, seems awfully narrow set up as a chatbot. AI is much more flexible and lets you pose very specific questions like one might ask here. Maybe I am just doing it wrong.
Based on your reply, I don't believe you tried it recently. Cancer Copilot now uses the ChatGPT 4 engine. It's a focused version of the ChatGPT that openAI developed and we helped train to "understand" prostate cancer.
There is also Altera.ai. They have a FDA and Medicare approved AI test based on your clinical data and your pathology slides that predict your cancer risk, and if you would benefit from doing ADT or not. I just ordered my Altera.ai prostate test. Stay tuned.
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