Basic presentation Nutrition and PCa

[maley2711]

youtube.com/watch?v=ayjYnZy...(Not working as expected?)

Lots of different opinions on this topic..there may be newer studies?

[Tall_Allen]

Latest good study was the MEAL study. No effect on progression of active surveillance for dietary change to include more vegetables.

jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...

[maley2711 in reply to Tall_Allen]

Thanks Allen...... seems these are diificult things to study, with so many variables? I'm almost certain that you are familiar whit Dr. Scholz? I happened upon a 5 minute video he posted re nutrition.....he mentioned in his years of practice, he seemed to see better results for advanced cases when the patient switched to a vegan/vegaterian diet. Also mentioned the China study. He suggested trying vegan/vegatarian in men with advanced, but maybe not for earlier stage cancer? Interestingly, I saw a PBS segment about 7th Day Adventists who followed non-meat diets for many,many years...they seemed to have substantially longer healthy lives than the meat-eating members? Me.....i have a problem with beans...like them, but........ . Also, those who like lots of onion, garlic, etc probably do better with non-meat, but I'm mainlu salt and pepper and Tapatio, would probably make for an uninteresting meal !!

[Tall_Allen in reply to maley2711]

I agree that it is difficult to study. The MEAL study is the best I've seen. They made a really good effort - I can't imagine anyone doing better. I know the PI was very disappointed in the outcome - who wouldn't want to be able to make the claim that if we just eat our veggies, outcomes will improve? Maybe it takes more than 2 years? Who knows? Dr Scholz and others see a lot of patients, but impressions based on observations just don't hold up.

My personal bias is that if diet has an influence, it is small and accumulates over a lifetime. I doubt that anything anyone can do after diagnosis will make a serious impact. However, the same is not true for cardiovascular disease and diabetes, which are 20x the killer that PCa is.

[treedown in reply to Tall_Allen]

This is a good point IMO and all the more reason to start now if you have been ignoring it a good part of your life like I did. . If these things take time , or a lifetime, and conventional treatment can keep us going for 10 or more years it might bring observations and studies like this together. In the meantime we know it could have a more immediate effect on comorbidities if any exist.