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HAS ANYONE COME ACROSS ARTICLES THAT INDICATE BREAST MILK CAN IMPROVE THE PROSTATE CANCER CONDITION? I SAW IT THROUGH HEARSAY BUT NOT IN ANY PUBLICATION. THANKS.

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Bob, there is little scientific proof of the benefits. A large study would be needed over time to document whether or not there is any benefit. What we do know for sure is that it cannot harm. There was one study in Sweden in 1995 that isolated a protein in mothers' milk that seemed to kill cancer cells in a test tube. They are still trying to develop a drug that takes advantage of that protein. Margit Hamosh, a biochemist and human breast milk specialist at Georgetown University, said that breast milk contained compounds "that might definitely help in people who have compromised immune systems." There is also a well publicized story about a man named Howard Cohen who has used breast milk for years who says it brought his PSA down to normal and put his cancer into remission. There seems to be a fairly high demand for breast milk, perhaps because of a "it can;t hurt" attitude. I am going to try it to see if it stops the rise in PSA that is happening with my recurrent growth.

Sorry, sounds like quackery to me.

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Nothing to be sorry about. You may be right, but with an initial diagnosis of advanced cancer, and now a recurrence, there is little reason to not try it. It's good to have some hope.

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Might sound like quackery, sometimes it's difficult to distinguish. The hallmark for judging if a particular remedy is the "clinical trial". The best kind of trial is the Double blind Randomised Controlled Trial (RCT). A large group of people are randomly assigned to one of two groups. The "Experimental" group are given the remedy (medication) and the "Control" group are given a placebo (usually lactose). If the response of the experimental group is statistically significantly better than the response of the control group them the remedy is said to be effective. It's blind because neither the people getting the remedy/placebo know which they're getting, nor do the people giving it to them.

The problem with this when trialing remedies for cancer is partly that it might take a long time for any effect to become apparent. This can also lead to an ethical problem. E.g. when trialing remedies for AIDS one study indicated that the medication was apparently working before the trial was concluded. The study group thought therefore that it was unethical to continue the trial because they knew the control group were only getting a placebo. So they stopped the trial and gave both groups the medication. Unfortunately, it didn't actually work!

I believe that there have been studies of breast milk which shows there are things in it, at least in the first few weeks following birth that help boost the babies immune system. I can't recall details, I believe it might have something to do with antibodies.

Cancer is related to immune deficiency. Cancer tends to occur when we are younger (immune system not fully developed) or when we are older (immune system in decline). I once read that we have up to 15,000 "cancer" cells in our body at any given time, scary. Our immune system normally kills them. Logically then anything that boosts our immune system helps to protect against these cells proliferating.

A bit of a problem with breast milk, i.e. where do you get it from? Especially since it has to be a few weeks following birth! Also, if it's just antibodies, then you only get the antibodies that the source of the milk has.

I believe there is an American researcher looking at a substance found in mushrooms that could be used for treating breast cancer which however unlikely sounds promising. There's also some research I believe looking at using genetically modified "Killer T cells" to treat cancer, but I think it will be past our time before this results in anything.

In the meantime let's just keep eating lots of tomatoes!

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Just heard today on the BBC news that my previous post has come to pass. The British National Health Service has now started using a new therapy for resistant childhood leukaemia. A blood sample is taken from the child and T lymphocytes are extracted from it. They are then modified and grown in a lab. When enough are grown, they are injected back into the child. These T cells then track down the leukaemia cells and kill them.

This is only to be used for leukaemia and only in children where other treatments have all failed because it's very expensive and currently it only applies to about 40 children in the whole country.

The technique can be used for other cancers. Once the manufacturers have recovered their development costs and any patents expired, it should become more widely available.

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Breast milk does not help prostate cancer. The stories that claim it are misunderstandings or false.

Trying it wastes your money and effort and makes it harder to get donor breast milk for babies that need it. If you buy from someone who promotes it as a cure, you encourage and support a quack.

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I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYONE PROMOTING IT AS A CURE. FOR THE ONE HIGHLY PUBLICIZED CASE I READ, IT WAS SIMPLY A DROP IN THE PSA LEVEL. NO CURE, NO PROOF. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF OUNCES OF BREAST MILK CURRENTLY FOR SALE. IF THERE IS A SHORTAGE, PART OF THE PROBLEM MAY BE IGNORANCE OF HOW TO GET IT, OR THE LACK OF FUNDS TO PURCHASE IT.

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I have not seen it evidence it working. Let me tell you what Has for me. My robotic surgery was 4 years ago July 2nd. The short story is I was registering a PSA and modified my diet (cut out dairy Mediterranean diet much more plant based) the results were a loss of 35 lbs and some stabilization of my PSA which got to 1. I followed a diet that was 10% calories from fat and low in sugar religiously on my fitness pal and in 3 months my PSA went down 37%. A diet low in fat with fasting worked for me and my Dr has evidence it’s worked for others. I’m also taking some supplements. One year of supplements didn’t do it. Fasting alone didn’t. Low fat and fasting did. It’s my belief cancer feeds on calories, fat and sugar.

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May I ask if you restricted proteins intake?

Mediterranean diet includes fish with some other plant-based foods.

I read that Methionine restriction (which is an amino acid) can help too.

What is your Gleason score?

Thanks!

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I’m more focused on calories when I think about it I eat less protein and more of it comes from plants. I recall I had a 7 3+4. My diagnosis was in 2013 surgery 2014

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I’m also on Dr prescribed supplements as well as finistrade ER Metformin. It has taken some getting used to but the base idea is fat sugar and calories feed cancer cells. Restrict the food supply

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This Book is a good read (hard to get 8 hours of sleep!) it’s Changed my approach to sleep. Good summary and great book. For us T Cancer Cells activate after 7 hours podcastnotes.org/2019/04/17...

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The book is why we sleep Matthew Walker. Highly recommend it as part of taking care is ourselves. I’ve had my PSA drop when I’m in total alignment

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