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Some of you here knows that I had miscarriage last month, I was 6 weeks n 5 days pregnant. It was my first pregnancy and I am 39 years old. I am scheduled to get my Covid'19 (Pfizer) vaccine on coming Monday. Just concerned if it can affect my chances to conceive again. Plz help
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Hi there, there are been a lot of speculation around the covid vaccine and infertility although as far as I’m aware this has not been proven whether that’s because there’s insufficient research I wouldn’t know.I did find the following article from Feb 2021.
google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc....
You can also find the Pfizer side effects here:
cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc...
If you are still concerned maybe contact your GP surgery of a health professional on the day?!
Hope you find enough information to make you feel comfortable.
Pasaeoco01 thank you for being my constant support 🤗 stay blessed 🌼
Not the Pfizer I know but my friend has just found out she’s pregnant (she’s 37) and she had the Astra Zeneca one 3 months ago
Cheekymonkey85 thank u n stay blessed 🌼
Hi
I don’t have direct experience, just had the vaccine and I am currently pregnant so not comparable, but two close friends who are going through IVF have discussed it with their consultants and both had the vaccine before the next round of fertility treatment. I would assume that if fertility specialists are recommending the vaccine before treatment then it makes good sense to have it. It is much much better to have been vaccinated before getting pregnant as you would have to wait until after the first trimester. During pregnancy it is impossible to avoid visits to hospitals which increases risks and covid can create complications and miscarriage in some cases.
On balance I would think your long term fertility will be better protected by the vaccine rather than avoiding it. But I know there’s a lot of talk on the internet about it. As far as I can tell it has no scientific evidence behind it. It is probably true that many women have a weird next period but to be honest a bad cold or other minor infection can also affect one’s period temporarily so it’s not necessarily any more than a sign that the immune system was working hard that month.
Good luck and I know how difficult it can all feel after a loss and the worry it might not happen again. I hope you are getting good support! Xx
Bigblueskies Thank you so much for taking out time and explaining it so well, trust me it's such a relief. Stay blessed 🌼
Hi, I had the same thoughts after having a miscarriage but due to my work (nurse) I had to have the vaccine. It took me about a month before I finally got it lol.
I just found out I am pregnant (4weeks +)! I keep hoping all goes well for me and DH this time. Miscarriages are horrible , lots of baby dust to you 😘
84bek First of all thank you very much on the behalf of every single person you take care of being a Nurse 🥰 then thank you for encouragement and wishes. I wish and pray for all the best for you and baby 💖. Keep updated n stay in touch. Stay blessed 🌼
I had the Covid vaccine and fell pregnant two weeks after. I had the Astra Zeneca/Oxford.
I believe they are now telling women trying to conceive or pregnant to not have the Oxford one, but opt for the other makes.
A fertility clinic I was going to use said you could have a vaccine 48hours prior to egg collection and transfer.
London1978 thank you, it's helpful. I am scheduled for vaccine next week, will definitely ask them before 🙃. Congratulations n best wishes for you n your baby 💖 Stay blessed 🌼
Hidden woww, datz alarming, eventhough I have delayed it for quite a bit as I am Thanx God healthy but I need to get it as a requirement to travel, I have already miscarried a Month ago so I guess it's the right time to get before conceiving again. Thanks for the information, it's eye-opening 🙃 stay blessed 🌼
Can you stop posting things that are completely untrue??? 🙄🙄🙄
Hidden yes, coz many women here have positive things to say as they experienced it by themselves. If you read comments above, many of my friends here explained that they went into healthy pregnancy after getting vaccine n few got it during and have healthy babies.I know and respect your concern but I think someone has misguided you and you shouldn't actually believe on everything on internet.
The best thing to find out the truth is to experience it 🙃
Thank you for your support 💖
Stay blessed 🌼
I've read the document you've linked and I'm unsure why you would think this show having the vaccine as a negative thing.
So this paragraph states that there was no harmful effects of the vaccine in animals. 'Animal studies do not indicate direct or indirect harmful effects with respect to pregnancy, embryo/foetal development, parturition or post-natal development'
When you read section 5.3 it was more details of this :
Reproductive and developmental toxicity were investigated in rats in a combined fertility and developmental toxicity study where female rats were intramuscularly administered with the COVID19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 prior to mating and during gestation (receiving 4 full human doses that generate relatively higher levels in rat due to body weight differences, spanning between pre-mating day 21 and gestational day 20). SARS-CoV-2 neutralizing antibody responses were present in maternal animals from prior to mating to the end of the study on postnatal day 21 as well as in foetuses and offspring. There were no vaccine-related effects on female fertility, pregnancy, or embryo-foetal or offspring development. No data on the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 are available on vaccine placental transfer or excretion in milk.
Again no effects were found in the trials on the animals reproduction, gestation or off spring.
However when you look at some of the studies about how pregnant woman are more likely to be hospitalised because of Covid that definitely worries me me than getting the vaccine. I had it at 20 weeks pregnant and am very happy with my decision.
Here's another study that looked at nearly 40,000 pregnancies where they had the vaccine and there was no increase in the amount of miscarriage, stillbirth etc than you would normally expect to see through the normal population.
nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/N...
These studies definitely put my mind at ease.
I also had a look about the claim about the vaccine attacking placenta and that appears to have come from an article that was false and removed, and there's been lots to refute the claim.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
I would definitely recommend looking through some of these studies and articles and speaking to your doctor or midwife if you have any other concerns about the vaccine.
The problem with VAERS is that you can report any adverse effect on there but it doesn't study the cause of the effect. So when you're using this system you need to accept that it is not going to give you the full details. vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguid...
It states on their website says:
The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.
While 43 people may have had miscarried after getting the vaccine, miscarriage is very common, even if you haven't had a vaccine. So you would need to do lots more investigation and research to see if the reason why they miscarried was directly linked to the vaccine.
So far all the studies have shown that there is no significant difference in miscarriage rates between vaccinated and unvacinated women. I think I've put the link to that study above.
So although those woman who have had miscarriages after they had the vaccine, the evidence points to that they would have miscarried anyway regardless of whether they had the vaccine or not. Evidence points to the fact the vaccine would not be the causation of the miscarriage. Or we would expect to be seeing higher rates of miscarriage in people who are having the vaccine.
See for me getting Covid-19 is playing the game of Russian Roulette. I had a friend of mine, very healthy man healthy, healthy weight, marathon runner and he was hospitalised and on a ventilator and still not back to full health now. He's not able to walk far let alone resume his marathon training. Having a 99% chance of not dying is not the same as thriving on life. His life has been significantly affected and he may never be back to how he was before. I have a toddler and I'm pregnant so the thought of being hospitalised and not knowing how bad or how long I would be ill is far more of a risk for me.
Looking at the effectiveness and side effects of the vaccine, which seem minimal especially in the high numbers having the vaccine, taking my chances with that was a far smaller risk to me and my family.
Good for you then don’t get it. That is your choice. But don’t post your conspiracy laden lies all over an infertility forum of nervous moms or moms to be who are trying to make an educated decision for themselves.
Having any medical intervention for anything is always absolutely your choice. I would say though that your links and information don't seem to be very accurate. Your first post referenced animal trials showing no effect on fertility or pregnancy, but you had read it as a negative instead of that the rats still got pregnant and had healthy pregnancies, which is what no effect has meant. You reference VAERS because of the adverse effects that have been reported, but this doesn't show causation, which is a really important to know when you're making an informed choice.
You said about the spike proteins, but this has come from a false source and isn't correct.
I'm absolutely not saying that you shouldn't make the choice for yourself, but make sure that you have read the information correctly and speak to your doctor or midwife and get their advice too, because if you don't interpret the data correctly you might not be correctly informed to make such an important decision.
In this vision times article it says clearly in the headline 'link unconfirmed' This means that the causation had not been established . So really it's just a scary headline to get people to read it, but it provides no research or evidence into into the claim.
I'm really sorry, that you feel that way about healthcare and the people that have worked hard to bring you this vaccine and treatments for a virus that has caused us all so much much pain this last year and a half. That you think they would lie about the safety of something in this way is a real shame.
They have to document all their tests and trials and go through rigorous stages to get their vaccines approved so it would not be on their best interests to lie to get it out to people. As as soon as you started vaccinating large numbers of people the fact that the tests didn't match the actual real world data would quickly be apparent. So to me it would make no sense to create a product that's not going to work how you'd expect. As it is the data from real world vaccinating and the trials seem to be very aligned with all the different vaccines.
I personally see their incentive as being to save lives (not just in terms of number of deaths, but in terms of overall health).
To aid getting us back to normal, so that we're going back to work and putting money back into our economies which has been badly hit by the pandemic.
When you ask what is the incentive of people to lie about the risks, I feel like they often do have more to make from spreading false information than the truth
When you post thing like the article from Vision as an example, they will be making an income from the number of clicks they are getting, so they're are making money by giving you false information. So they do have an incentive to provide inaccurate click bait. It's how their business runs.
It's how a lot of websites and pages run and generate income, so if your watching YouTube videos, they get revenue when you watch from adverts, on Facebook the same. A lot of people that I've seen referenced with vaccine misinformation even had a donation page asking you to fund them, but no way of knowing how your money would actually be spent.
So I do think they're is a market for misinformation and false news. They don't have to provide proof, they don't have to provide research or peer reviewed papers. They have no governing bodies checking over them and no recourse if you got sick because you didn't get vaccinated because of their information.
People say that you can't sue the pharmaceutical company if you have an adverse effect from the vaccine, but you also can't sue some guy on YouTube if you get sick with Covid and aren't able to work or enjoy life, but didn't get the vaccine because his video said it was bad for you.
I know I might not change your mind, and it's too late for you to change mine. I've had my flu jab, whooping cough jab, my first Covid Jab and have my second one booked in and I'm really happy with my choices and confident I've done the best for my family ❤️
Looking at this man's profile on line and he is a anti vaccine advocate and he's also in the past even denied the existence of AIDS. So he's never going to give you an unbiased view point.
On his website they're is no evidence of him doing any studies into the things he claims, it's all just articles which he's written about. Many of his articles direct you to purchase his books to get more information.
He sells books from his website and had links to his you tube channel so both ways he's going to make an income from you by selling you misinformation.
There's no studies or research here,on the link either, just links to news articles, which again clicking on them gives revenue to the news outlets who sell advertising for profit. They're putting headlines which will make you click on them but not providing you with any credible or verifiable information.
For example this link within the article you've linked shows that
yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yel.... It is a list of adverse effects after having a vaccine, but as with the VAERS site it doesn't show causality or any studies or research etc.
Is not even actually a link to the yellow card site it's actually a link to a website for a 'news' site with a heavy bias on being anti vaccine and to join it costs £3, per month. So again they're making money from giving you misinformation.
I know you don't trust the people making the vaccines and this man seems to want to sell you all the answers to your fears, but what about him makes you trust him more when he provides zero research into his reasonings and is actually trying to sell you his books and videos? So trying to make a profit from you?
If your click on one of the links or does take to a list of deaths, and read through them many of the people who have died were elderly and had long term health conditions. It's the VAERS site so it doesn't show the cause of death just that the patient had died. One even said the patient wasn't expected to live long and was unresponsive when they gave the vaccine.
The Lancet is just a comment article, and there's another article disputing their methods on another comments page. Nothing in it would put me off having the vaccine without a lot more information about who wrote the article and more research into what they're saying.
You need a hobby.
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