I was diagnosed 5 yrs ago with PBC. I get low abdomen pain that is painful. It seems I get this after eating?

[Lexi_Img]

Does anyone relate to this. I can't seem to eliminate by bile right. Please let me know if this is bloat.

[Sunny_snowflake]

Could it be gallstones, because it occurs after the eating? I have heard that those ones are very painful.

[Lexi_Img in reply to Sunny_snowflake]

Thanks however I have had this for many years. I wonder if it is the PBS???

[Ginger_11]

I have had my gallbladder removed and still get this pain. Have you looked into the Acid-Alkaline diet? I am just investigating this and it appears to around eating more alkaline based food and not so much of the acid food, to reduce the acid in your system (eating 80/20 in ratio i.e. 80% alkaline based food and 20% acid based food). There is even an Acid-Alkaline book for Dummies in existence!!!!! I am going to try it to see if it is beneficial. I will post my results in about a month or so. Also the recommendation is to eat small and often. Five small meals a day as opposed to the usual three. I find if I eat too big a meal, this starts of the symptom, however if I eat smaller portions it does not occur (measure by keeping food on the inside ridge of a plate and not piling the food up). If going out to dinner and eating later, ask for a child's portion. I find standing up and stretching your arms over your head also helps, as this stretches out your inner organs to their maximum and the pain decreases. Hope this helps.

[Lexi_Img in reply to Ginger_11]

I recently about 6mos ago became a vegetarian. What do you think of fish or seafood? I also pretty much elimated these too. Thanks for your help.

[Hidden]

I agree here with Sunny_snowflake that having gallstones of a certain size can cause pain abdominally after eating, fats in particular, I know this as my late mother was diagnosed with gallstones. She went to the doctor complaining that not so long after eating she was experiencing a lot of pain which would then disperse a while later.

Given I presume you are taking ursodeoxycholic acid (urso or UDCA for short) then if you do have gallstones they will probably not be of a cholesterol nature (there are different ones) as urso was originally given to dissolve cholesterol gallstones.

Have you tried eating small meals or 'little and often' as we are often informed can be a good thing for anyone with a digestive issue. It might just be then you don't experience any pain.

I haven't got anything like this but never know if I do in the future.

Ginger_11 I have just noticed has also mentioned this (this site used to have you typing replies beneath other replies, find it difficult typing above as occasionally I miss something in someone's reply).

I find I can eat rather good breakfast and lunchtime but then come the evening meal I seem to taper off so I obviously do not eat a large meal then.

Funnily enough some foods that we think are acidic like clementines (that are rife in the UK at present) are actually pretty good at balancing stomach acid. If you tend to suffer from heartburn that can actually be due to fats.

(I was never one for suffering from heartburn but when I started urso in Dec 2010 for a few months I did do so. Then it vanished. I have suffered temporarily since due to tablet manufacturing changes which I have had no choice in due to tablet recall last year.)

[GrittyReads]

What exactly do you mean by 'low' abdomen pain? The low abdominal pain I used to have wasnowhere near my liver, and was labelled as ibs, until I had a mirena coil inserted to help my endometriosis and it disappeared. My gynaecologist said endo often has ibs-type pain associated with it. However, I still prefer to keep gluten and fats low, and have noticed that I sometimes get a similar milder sort of pain in the same area if my diet has wobbled. It's since been suggested that this is to do with the ileo-caecal valve, which can be upset by certain foods and gases, so maybe check this out - unless of course you are sure your pain is liver related.

Hope you get it sorted.

[JennerLayne]

I am starting to get discomfort in my stomach after eating and then it seems to shift toward the liver as time progresses after a meal. It is especially bad when I've eaten what I call a 'normal' sized meal and have had to work hard to adhere to half sized portions and cut food into smaller bites. It's a sense of pressure ' not so much pain' and often takes up to an hour or two, to disapper. Incidentally, I had my gallbladder out 20 years ago so stones are not the cause.