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I got an error message when I clicked on the video

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bepo in reply to park_bear

Sorry. Try YouTube Christopher video 1

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rescuema in reply to bepo

The first one on the list by "David Brownstein" on the link below.

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Hikoi

Why do people take so long to tell their story! And why was he moaning that nobody did anything for him. Who did he expect to save him? There is no one going to save us!

The doctor said at the end of the video "People are dying from this and they dont have to". I'll bet they wont publicise any failures.

Just listened to an update. In my country 14 in hospital 74 recovered 2 intensive care. This guy just got better.

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Parkie- in reply to Hikoi

" In my country 14 in hospital 74 recovered 2 intensive care."

What country is that?

Thank you

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LAJ12345 in reply to Parkie-

New Zealand

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Hikoi in reply to Parkie-

The point is that most people survive the virus even when they have symptoms. This man made out he would die as did the imterviewer - BS. He just had a bad time and got through it.

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bepo in reply to Hikoi

Great. I'm not willing to take the chance, are you? Has this theory been proven on patients many times over?

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Hikoi in reply to bepo

Yes the stats are ample proof that people survive. And yes I am willing to take the chance. There is no proof that Nebulisers make any difference. They are not life saving.

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bepo in reply to Hikoi

Where are you looking for the proof? There's plenty of proof out there, but you won't find it in mainstream medicine.

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Hikoi in reply to bepo

Proof they work for Corona virus?

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bepo in reply to Hikoi

The people who die from COVID-19 all die of pneumonia. Hydrogen Peroxide, and ozone infuse the body with oxygen. When you get pneumonia, what are you lacking? Oxygen.

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ParlePark in reply to bepo

As Hikoi ask”show us proof?” Don’t care if mainstream med or not, please support your statement. Is that really too much to ask? Links please...

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bepo in reply to ParlePark

drhyman.com/blog/2020/04/01... , ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/318...

Dr. Hyman addresses high dose Vitamin C IV therapy and ozone, which is oxidative. Over the years I have read many, many articles and podcasts.

secondopinionnewsletter.com...

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ParlePark in reply to bepo

His title says it can knock out any virus including Corona, yet he hasn't even treated it yet! That's quite a stretch bepo! I'm definitely not one to argue, and won't, but that's quite an optimistic stretch.

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bepo in reply to ParlePark

One could presume if it knocks out the efficacy of ebola and other serious viruses, it would probably work on COVID. The main treatment we have right now is to build up the immune. Tell me something that has worked as effectively.

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ParlePark in reply to bepo

I don’t presume anything. I think if you believe it so much you should be calling every hospital and the cdc and become hero of the day! Your link stating, again, that he hasn’t even tried it yet still makes a claim is ridiculous.

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bepo in reply to ParlePark

Ok. At the same time, who has had the time to study novel corona? It hasn't been around that long! These natural therapies are better than nothing. They do no harm. I certainly will be using oxidative therapies and building up my immune. I encourage others to do the same. You don't want to go to the emergency.

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ParlePark in reply to bepo

Did you ever think it possible that it could possibly do damage to the lungs which would possibly already be in a damaged state? Chartist recently replied to a ventilator post, I suggest you refer to that as a model how to recommend

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bepo in reply to ParlePark

I just "put stuff out there" as a catalyst. Everyone needs to do their own research and decide what works for them. Many of our doctors are using hydrogen peroxide with success. That's good enough for me.

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ParlePark in reply to bepo

Of course we do, that’s a given. And I’m not stating that it is or is not a viable option

But an article that says basically “trust me, it should work” isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. I know you have good intentions but to me that article is a joke.

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Hikoi in reply to bepo

1994, based on its investigation of several extremely serious complaints from his patients and their loved ones, the Medical Board of California found that Dr. Frank A. Shallenberger was subject to multiple disciplinary actions due to "gross incompetence," "repeated acts of gross negligence," and "acts of dishonesty and corruption which are substantially related to the qualifications, functions, or duties of a physician and surgeon." In response, Dr. Shallenberger chose not to contest the Board's findings, but to surrender his license to practice medicine in the state of California.

After losing his license in California, Dr. Shallenberger moved to Nevada, where he now runs the Nevada Center for Alternative and Anti-Aging Medicine in Carson City.

September 2007, Shallenberger pleaded guilty to one count of medical malpractice in response to another complaint against him. The case arose as a consequence of Shallenberger's mistreatment of David Horton, who died after Shallenberger misdiagnosed his colon cancer as hemorrhoids, treated him with witch-hazel and other ineffectual remedies, then, after Horton's cancer had spread, unsuccessfully tried to combat the disease with Insulin Potentiation Therapy, a controversial treatment ...

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bepo in reply to Hikoi

I am aware of all that; he is one of our doctors; we believe in his therapies. If a doctor says something will 'cure', and it is not a pharmaceutical, they will lose their license. They have to be exceedingly careful about their words. When someone is skeptical to begin with, I don't imagine they would try any of this therapies, anyway. Good luck to you.

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Hikoi in reply to bepo

These people would not have been sceptical or they wouldnt have gone to the doctor in the firt place. They still died.

Where I live he would not be allowed to call himself a dotor. A real doctor is very unlikely to claim anything cures. They are more likely t.o give the likelihood of this happening.

BTW we are still only one virus death here using conventional medicine

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ParlePark in reply to bepo

Wait a sec. the link you sent above states clearly he can “knock out the coronavirus but he hasn’t even treated it”. He literally says “he can take care of it “. His words. Any doc that talks like that wouldn’t get my vote.

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rescuema in reply to bepo

It's baffling to me seeing some people's resistance to trying relatively harmless and inexpensive vitamin/supplement/alternative therapies. What have you got to lose trying a more natural route first?

The constant criticism of "no studies" is akin to appeal to authority fallacy under almost religious belief system of the current crippled allopathic medical practice.

The same critical people will blindly try hundreds of pharmaceutical drugs ordered by MDs that simply showed result without thorough understanding and scientific foundation of how they actually work, except that they help to abate certain symptoms (along with myriad toxic side effects that eventually end up in lawsuits) thanks to the millions spent on limited studies in hope of billions in profits.

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ParlePark in reply to rescuema

I have no aversion to trying new inexpensive and reasonable alternatives,say B1 for example. However when I read an article claiming a cure that hasn’t even been tried yet, I’m little hesitant to afford the author any credibility. Thank you, I’ll pass.

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rescuema in reply to ParlePark

He is just one of many even if he lacks the creds. There are many anecdotal testimonials out there. A nebulizer h202 therapy sounded hokey to me at first but I did my due diligence and it checks out especially seeing how h202 (food grade) breaks down to h20 and oxygen when interacting with lung tissue. It's worth a try especially at the fist onset of symptoms, and I definitely don't want to end up on a ventilator if possible.

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ParlePark in reply to rescuema

I’m not saying I wouldn’t try it. To be clear, the post lacks total credibility ( to me). I normally don’t read stuff like that. I did because it was entertaining. If you post a “cure” , support it with a study or similar not an article that states “that the doc hasn’t even tried it” but should work.

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rescuema in reply to ParlePark

Got it. I simply dismiss ridiculous claims and go straight to science after hearing enough word of mouth reports.

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Hikoi in reply to rescuema

Rescuema,

I am beginning to think that this clinging to miracles I see on here (which I believe is 90% from people from the USA) reflects the short comings in your capitalist medical system. We in the first world with so called socialist systems do not have the fear i feel is rampant in the USA. Yes you have top notch physicians but some people loose their homes to pay medical bills. I don't know of any other country where that happens. Every first world country i know you get care if you are sick. That is reassuring. Also medical litigation happens but is almost non existent compared to the US. I guess the combination of fear and expense has a different effect on trust than a sense of security gives

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rescuema in reply to Hikoi

I was under the care by the top medical Drs from Harvard and elsewhere while I was living in Boston for decades, but I got no answer to various health issues and the drugs they prescribed actually caused worse problems. I was able to resolve them all on my own (and of my family & friends) through alternative routes, and understood that the best educated Drs know virtually nothing of proactive health management outside what they were specifically taught. Many on this forum have been burnt similarly and have lost faith in the system.

It's not at all about being unable to access proper care or of medical expense. That would've been much cheaper than venturing and testing the alternative routes, spending countless hours learning the science behind how and why. True healers heal with nutrition, not just manage symptoms with toxic prescriptions.

I don't believe in miracles. I believe in helping the body heal more naturally by strengthening the innate healing capacity whenever possible while removing toxic variables. Unfortunately this is not the model the typical mainstream medical system operate under.

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Hikoi in reply to rescuema

I consider that a typical USA answer. Thankyou

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rescuema in reply to Hikoi

No, it's not the typical USA view. It's the view of people who realized better and actually benefited from alternative therapies when medical system failed or had no answer.

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Hikoi in reply to rescuema

I guess as an outsider looking in at your country I see different things that suggest lack of control of ones life (especially the reliance on God to make things right).

In my country for instance, the importance of exercise to health has been a part of the system for over 20 years. A doctor can write an exercise prescription called a green prescription which gives you access to a gym or similar and a support person. It began in 1998. It is your health professional's written advice to you to encourage you to become more physically active.

So when people go on here about not being told the importance of exercise I can partly agree re PD but in the wider context I think what care system are they talking about!

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rescuema in reply to Hikoi

I'm not sure what you mean by lack of control. I see it quite the other way and people exercise their freedom and individual right more compared to other nations especially under the constitution.

I was always fit and athletic so I wasn't personally told to exercise, but US Drs do their part to encourage exercise and better diet when applicable (obesity, diabetic, etc), some more gung-ho than others based on their personal experience, but people aren't always compliant.

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Hikoi in reply to rescuema

‘I’m not sure how to explain the lack of control over ones life but I feel it when I watch videos of people struggling to cope, to buy meds and put food on the table.

I know Americans place a huge emphasis on individual freedoms hence your gun laws. Other countries place more emphasis on the common good.

Incidentally US ranks as 38th country for life expectancny at 78.9 average age at death putting it closer to China at 76.7 than to much of the rest of Europe and Japan (no1 at 84.5).

I guess the analysis of the pandemic and how health systems responded in the years to come will be very telling. Of course America is very large so you have challenges in abundance.

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rescuema in reply to Hikoi

If you're not well off enough or gamble to choose to not afford a medical insurance, you'll be in trouble if you ever get sick. I've never been without an insurance and the majority of people I know are risk-averse enough to have medical insurance. Medicare kicks in after 65. The whole thing with inflated medical charge for the uninsured, insurance write off for the insured, what's covered by insurance and what's not is a huge mess but the whole system is heavily burdened by moral hazard by the participants at the same time. It does need an overhaul.

S. Korea certainly looks to be leading in the efficiency and policy dealing with this pandemic. It's frustrating to see the lack of better global collaboration, each country fumbling along drowned in their own suboptimal policies.

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Hikoi in reply to rescuema

Agree with what you write except the lack of collaboration internationally. It’s far from perfect but I think US is out on a limb compared to the rest of the world.

Hope you stay well.

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MarionP in reply to Hikoi

It does often seem somehow "American." But that's just on the surface. Deeper, not that different than many places. Media does exaggerate the picture a little in the last generations due to making the operations more apparent in people's awareness.

The U.S. started out, and still dominant in what produces value that the people derive their living from (even those who derive their living from receiving benefits from government or develop the government as the resources from which they focus their commercial efforts, i.e., money as a natural resource to do business and thereby sometimes produce even more money...or not, if you find the money successfully gleaned from government to be sufficient to meet your desires on its own), on the largely laissez-faire and "social-darwinist" philosophy of capitalism, from which all things spring.

Underlying this notion of capitalism, which came from the development of the corporate (i.e., Dutch and British) colonialist business development model view of creating "crown-chartered companies" to economically develop an Empire to follow its military conquest and establishment, is the idea that ultimately individual independence provides the spirit wellspring that creates itself, and then downstream all other things we need or have, including the benefits of collective efforts...that at base a drive is needed, and the drive produces though a route of independence, individualistic effort, and that even those then created by corporatism, collectivism and cooperation must first arise through the road of individualism, the striving which produces material and thus best serves humanity.

Individualism carries the corollary principle of personal responsibility that is the other side of the same cloth, via the opposite side of the same coin of individualism, which is that the "other" is a sort of competitor ememy at base, i.e., conflict with other "individuals" acting as individual.

Within that individualism and personal responsibility of entitlement to retain the benefits, the fruits of such effort, the fruits that are the way all good things arise.

But within independence is the value that people are, in the end, "on their own," because necessarily the activity of individuals producing in a generically hostile environment (i.e., Darwinism, which has the dual core priniciples: evolution is produced by competition with a hostile environment) is thereby done by conflict of opposing forces, that the world is competitive of necessity of people doing the individual thing, and collective benefits necessarily derived after their production.

This part of the philosophy necessarily produces the opposite tension at the same time, i.e., that you are ultimately on your own, you against the world, and can never fully trust anybody, so you need a gun because there are going to be times that someone else exercising the very same principles that produces all these good things puts people in conflict and so part of surviving is protecting yourself from that conflict with the opposing hostile force.

Applied to every good thing in the world, that means you will find such evolutionary strains in every form of activity, which is why so many people see it woven into things "American." Ta-Da.

Want to get a good literary feel for the whole thing (though exaggerated in order to make the illustration more clear)? Read some Ayn Rand, the most pure and clear literary representation of the whole package. Even our socialists and communists act like the people in Ayn Rand, and we attract a great many similar minded people devoted to the same thing and when extremely successful, can cloud the picture a bit because the result of their success is in media, which tends to dominate others' perceptions to the extent media does or doesn't reflect entire society, just the one that the media controllers' message produces their wealth for them, such as the truly American-at-heart Stereotyped American Rupert Murdoch, who pretty much creates more of such visibility than actually exists for people to mistake.

So really it is a misnomer to call such things American (even though the impulse to do so suggests itself to Americans) when really they are just the old class replacement for European Medieval process that swept the world in the last few centuries as an alternative model to those that developed somewhat elsewhere (such as Caste and Anarchy). So it's just a (perhaps) more readily visible version of the basic class warfare system that has always existed pretty much everywhere after joining the Caste, Royalty, and Anarchy models that preceded it.

But that said, you will always see the following occur when a calamity such as this occurs and is reflected in, my example, business activity and job activity: Suppose there is a 2% pullback in the economy, and suppose our in our illustration that is reflected in a 2% drop in employment: In some other country, such a reflection looks more often by most people keeping their jobs but losing 2% of their compensation. In the U.S., the same pullback would show as 2% of the workers losing their entire job. In my eyes that's a fairly core picture that encapsulates the difference.

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bepo in reply to Hikoi

Allopathic medicine is great for everything but chronic diseases. That form of medicine is pharmaceutical directed. No one is cured through allopathic medicine. They and the pharma they prescribe, will keep you on those meds for the rest of your life. Why not look at what caused the problem , which is, in so many cases, diet and lifestyle. We helped a man who was on 25 medications for 30 years. We encouraged him to look at the side effects and to cut out those that were causing him problems, such as those that caused shortness of breath. He got off all 25 meds, and his blood pressure is better than ever.

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Hikoi in reply to bepo

Not sure what your point is bepo. Who said allopathic medicines cured chronic diseases? Yes diet and lifestyle will be contributors to illness as will genes. That doesnt mean diet and lifestyle will cure chronic conditions once you have them. Nothing we know of yet cures Parkinsons

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bepo in reply to Hikoi

Parkinson's may be the only disease I am aware of that can't be cured with lifestyle and diet and supplementation. We're working on it. Hopefully B1 is helpful for a lot of people.

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Hikoi in reply to bepo

Glaucoma, Arthritis, Muscular dystrophy, Multiple sclerosis, Menieres disease, cystic fibrosis, bronchiectasis, COPD, epilepsy, haemophilia, schizophrenia, bi polar, systemic lupus erythematosis, Addisons disease, hydrocephalus, spina bifida, ...... to name just a few other chronic conditions that can't be cured with lifestyle, diet and supplements

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bepo in reply to rescuema

Well stated.

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faridaro

I am not familiar with nebulizers and not sure what kind of nebulizer they were talking about. Apparently it would be good to get one.

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bepo in reply to faridaro

We have a nebulizer my husband bought to nebulize glutathione. I think that will work for hydrogen peroxide, as well. It has been suggested by many doctors I follow, and have followed for years.

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faridaro in reply to bepo

Can you please tell more about the nebulizer you have - like model, price, source?

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secondopinionnewsletter.com...

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bepo in reply to faridaro

Mabis nebulizer. There are many out there. We bought it many years ago for PD. It administered glutathione.

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Despe in reply to bepo

Thanks for sharing it, Bepo. Most of the people are asking the exact percentage of iodine and H2O2, the mixture for the nebulizer.

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bepo in reply to Despe

It works without the iodine, as well. Dr. Bronstein has studied iodine for years.

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Despe in reply to bepo

Wow! Simple and effective. I have been making nasal spray using distilled water, 1/8 tsp of sea salt, and a few drops of food grade 3% H2O2, all mixed in 1 fl oz glass sprayer. It has worked wonders for my husband's sinuses problems. It might be good for coronavirus, too, who knows. :)

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rescuema in reply to bepo

It seems Dr. Brownstein and Dr. Shallenberger use very diluted H2O2, but as long as it's below 3% and tolerable, it may be ok diluted way down somewhere inbetween without worrying about the exact dilution.

Dr. Shallenberger - "To a 100 cc bag of normal saline add 5 cc of pharmaceutical grade 3% hydrogen peroxide."

Dr. Brownstein - "Then, 3cc of that diluted mixture [3%] was further diluted in 250 cc of normal saline. Finally, 3 cc of the saline-diluted mixture can be nebulized."

drbrownstein.com/how-to-neb...

Straight food grade 3% H2O2 below - sounds quite irritating, but she recently started using 1.5% (half saline and half 3%) without irritation from reading the comments.

youtube.com/watch?v=IbkBN3N...

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faridaro in reply to bepo

I found Mabis steam inhaler/vaporizer on amazon, is it the same as nebulizer?

amazon.com/Personal-Inhaler...

With all variety of inhalers, vaporizers and diffusers it's hard to figure out what to buy.

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bepo in reply to faridaro

Ours was purchased back in 2014, when George was first diagnosed. I tired to find the exact model, but couldn't find it. I would look at the ratings. Right now, I think the best idea is to buy one that has good reviews. Build up the immune: Watch sugar and processed carbs and alcohol. Take vitamin D and and C.

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SilentEchoes

Can't find the video, please provide a synopsis of his therapy. Thanks!

SE

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rescuema in reply to SilentEchoes

It's based on the therapy using the "Vitamin D Hammer."

vitamindanswers.com/vitamin...

Also see the related article from a recent post.

thenewamerican.com/usnews/h...

Searching "christopher video 1" on youtube should work - first one on the list by "David Brownstein" on the link below.

youtube.com/results?search_...

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SilentEchoes in reply to rescuema

Thank you! ❤

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Erniediaz1018

Thank you bepo

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bepo in reply to Erniediaz1018

You're welcome.

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bepo

Thank you for that great post!

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Despe

articles.mercola.com/sites/...

Ozone therapy for COVID-19!

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