I need Hiatal hernia permanent remedy

[AmFabulous]

I was diagnosed of HIATAL HERNIA,please I need anyone who can help me with the remedy,am going through alot of pain,my body doesn't accept all kinds of food or else it trigger the pain of the HERNIA

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Hi, all I can say is that with the Hiatal Hernia in most cases because the hiatus one way valve from you stomach to your oesophagus pushes it's way up into the lower part of the oesophagus the most common issue being acid reflux (otherwise known as heartburn) from the stomach contents and acid getting trapped and burning at the oesophageal lining. If you are having actual physical pain (which is rarer but not unheard of) you need to get it looked into asap.

[AmFabulous in reply to Hidden]

Have already got it looked into,and was given some medication but please do you have any ideal or medication to cure it permanently,because my doctor can't figure out the cure yet,was only given drugs to calm the pain.i need remedy please.

[Mum007 in reply to AmFabulous]

I have the same problem but I have a paraoesophagheal hernia so Nothing helps. If yours is a sliding hernia which is the most common you may get help from this. drrtannenbaum.com/index.php...

Just to add. Chocolate, alcohol, carbonated drinks, mint, tomatoes, caffeinated drinks and fatty foods may all make it worse, as does being overweight.

[focused1]

The only way forward for me was surgery which I had in Jan 2018 and since then I am a new person . Middle age spread maybe was a trigger but the only 'cure' was day surgery on the NHS called Nissan fundoplication .

[HappyGreenBean in reply to focused1]

Hi focused, How did you manage to get this through the NHS? Can I ask where you are in the UK? I'm in London and told by my Gastro that there's no way, my GP too. They want to use mesh IF they do surgery but they're suggesting no surgery only meds. I'm not overweight at all and I feel like I should be offered this procedure considering I'm in good shape.

I hope you're doing well now, are you? Take it easy.

[focused1 in reply to HappyGreenBean]

Hi . I had this procedure in Jan 2018 at Stepping Hill Hospital . Stockport / NW England . Covid has impacted on most surgery mainly by delay . I was rushed into hospital in Sept 2021 with trapped gall stones which were removed but still await day surgery to have gall bladder removed with no planned date or update of timescale . However my general health now is Ok . With hiatus hernia I felt miserable . It controlled so much of my life from actually being exhausted whilst working , broken sleep and enduring rather than enjoying life . I had various unpleasant tests before surgery. Tubes down my nose whilst awake with 24 hour monitor . Loads of camera procedures - more like the Krypton factor but I was determined . I probably became a nuisance but this was my body and my life. I think you have to be persistent and honest . Long term medication was for me - Lansoprazole which taken long term can do more harm than good and I could back my story by naming if required 2 local people who developed stomach ulcers taking this for a while with regrets .

Push for surgery if this is your ideal . It was the only cure for me and improved my life long term .

[HappyGreenBean in reply to focused1]

Thank you so much for your story and encouragement. I sincerely appreciate it. I think you're right, I'm currently dealing with gastritis & acid reflux. My gastro is being reluctant to do much if anything. But, I'm really suffering. I'm atm stuck in bed after a night of wheezing, coughing and debilitating pain. It's continued most of today and I'm wiped. It's a good thing I booked today off, just for a long weekend!

Thanks again I really appreciate it. Glad you're doing better now, really happy for you!

[focused1 in reply to HappyGreenBean]

This mirrors how I felt . I told my GP that my quality of life was poor and I was depressed- not medically but as a result of being exhausted and not being able to do anything apart from work then flop in a chair .Luckily my GP understood . I said I didn’t want to be suffering from depression too . It is hard to find the energy to be assertive but persistent going back and updating finally worked

[HappyGreenBean in reply to focused1]

Wow, your GP sounds great. Mine says things like depression causes the pain you're in. I've gone 'round the houses trying to find a good GP! I'll get there eventually, having the knowledge that you've come so far gives me hope!

[focused1 in reply to HappyGreenBean]

I don’t usually see the same GP all the time .There are several at my practice. Another way may be going via a walk in centre and telling them that you are exhausted. Sometimes it is who you see and their approach. Explain your symptoms etc . They can send referral to hospital.

[HappyGreenBean in reply to focused1]

Oh my days, you are a genius! I'll see if there's one around my way. I don't want to tread on my Gastro's toes though, that's the only issue I have. It's him & my GP that aren't pushing things forward. He's been really good up until now and now I have this blasted gastritis!

I can see why you're so persuasive! You think outside the box. This and keeping up the good attitude will see you through life my friend!

[focused1 in reply to HappyGreenBean]

Thanks . As women we seem to have difficulty putting ourselves first . Unless you have actually gone through this it is virtually impossible to understand what a grasp this has on life 24/7 . No medical training can put this into reality. I wouldn't apologise for stamping never mind treading on toes . I think swift intervention can help triggering other things too . Let us know how you get on.

[HappyGreenBean in reply to focused1]

I can't thank you enough. Just the words of encouragement are really needed tbh. You're right, women just don't stand up for themselves. I've often tried to be firmer, sometimes I freeze. I've got to learn to do better for myself. Thank-you.

I've just had another very disappointing apt with my GP& gastro. My GP has said they don't think anything is necessary and this is basically a pain condition and I need to learn to manage it with PPIs, meditation and diet. There's more to this but honestly, it would bore anyone to tears! My gastro, after telling me to call him if I was still having issues and he'd prescribe more PPIs and consider other options, turned around and told me to go to my GP.

I feel like I'm stuck between two clowns! haha. I genuinely don't mean any disrespect to anyone but this is getting ridiculous.

Just dust myself off and keep going!

Thanks and huge hi-fives/internet hugs for your support. Drop me a line whenever should you wish/need to.

[HappyGreenBean in reply to focused1]

Hey Focused! I wanted to ask you this because a)you've been so encouraging & helpful and b) you may have some experience and therefore solid advice.

I've been offered prokinetics as the next line of treatment. I'm already doing PPI etc but it's not resolving. I've read a little bit about them & they seem quite scary tbh, the side effects alone don't look great! But, both my GP & gastro have dismissed surgery or said it's not safe and they won't recommend it to anyone. Have you taken any of the prokinetic drugs? If so, how long for?

Thanks again. I'm now looking at going privately, though I sincerely can't afford it! I just don't think I'm getting anywhere with this.

I hope you and yours are doing well and enjoying the small amount of sun we've been having today!

[focused1 in reply to HappyGreenBean]

Hi -Are you in the UK ? I only ask as I wasn’t refused surgery but told the risks at the age of 58 . I have never had prokinetic drugs but any doubts and this is you and your body . Have they said why no surgery ? I was taking nothing else and had no other medical issues when I had surgery. I wonder whether Covid and waiting lists have anything to do with it ? Maybe out of frustration you could see a private surgeon and ask their advice . If you get the go ahead from them and the positive reasons why this would help you then this may trigger GP to change their mind. I can’t say surgery is for everyone but it was the only thing that finally worked for me . Recovery afterwards is a lot of determination. Liquid diet only for about 3 weeks . I promised to lose weight and the liquid diet alone helped me get used to less food so I maintain my 15-18kg loss so I suppose this has helped . Before surgery I was sluggish and couldn’t sleep well . After surgery I joined a gym at a reduced rate via the NHS - PARIS scheme which is rehab post surgery and I also started walking . It isn’t just the stomach and throat problems . My psychological health was awful too - worth mentioning to your GP . Battle on bug don’t be coaxed into taking medication that has awful side effects . My friends husband developed stomach ulcers with long term tablets so please watch out .

[HappyGreenBean in reply to focused1]

Yep, UKer here! I think you might be right re COVID and the NHS. No doubt they're all feeling the strain.

Your feedback is actually really helpful. Because, I don't know anyone else going through this or who has, I'm relying on strangers on the internet! Not a place I thought I'd be, but I sure am glad the feedback is coming from you!

They gave no reason other than it's the 'nuclear' option and that 'it's not something they'd ever recommend to any of their patients'. He quickly moved on and then said the apt was over. My Gastro said more-or-less something similar, he's convinced that this can be treated with long term PPI use (this echoes my GP). They've both poo-pooed the idea that long term PPI use is bad, especially for us gals who are post menopausal. Although I'm a little shorter in the tooth than you, my age wasn't brought up. They just reiterated that PPIs were safe long term and I shouldn't worry about bone loss etc.

My physical health has taken a huge nose-dive, I've hightlighted this to them and their response was 'you're getting older' and more non-sense about how I have to be driven to be active. Basically telling me that it's in my head. Ugh, these guys, seriously!?! Wish they'd spend the day dealing with this, they'd think twice!

Anyway, I'm not a moaner, so I better get all my ducks in a row and be more organized about advocating for myself. If this doesn't work, next stop is figuring out a private consultation. Might have to sell off my healthy kidney for it! lol!

Thanks again for all your encouragement! You make a good back-up buddy!

Have a lovely weekend Focused!

[focused1 in reply to HappyGreenBean]

Thanks for your reply . I went down the psychological road quite heavily in that I couldn't sleep well which was true but I had to also work , pay bills etc and this was really affecting me . Maybe pull up some negative stories about the long term negatives of the medication you are on . I didn't see the same GP every time I went to the surgery . Have you gained any weight ? Know I am grasping at straws here I would go armed with every piece of negative evidence I could find . To say avoid surgery ? For me it wasn't a hard decision . I felt lousy . Couldn't enjoy any food . Hated even going out for a coffee .

Good luck . Keep us posted but persistence does pay off .

Plan B - 1 visit to a private surgeon would would possibly give you all the positives . Armed with those - quote them to your GP and any NHS gastro team

[AmFabulous in reply to focused1]

Hello Focused I saw all your answers and were very helpful,but please am having same hiatal hernia and I can tell you this has frustrated my life,but doctor gave me Exonaprazole 40mg and famotidina,but this drugs only calm the pain but no cure,I asked for operation but was told that in future I will have complications after operation and the problem may get worst then,please I beg you if I do the operation will I have complications in years to come or not?Will I still be able to live longer in life,please I need better Prof and explanation before I decide for the operation.thanks

[focused1 in reply to AmFabulous]

Everything may be done on a case by case basis but after taking medication, feeling awful - bloated, unable to sleep , exhausted trying to work , miserable with everything and everybody I thought what is my life now . So I suppose I took a chance . I would want to know why life wasn’t going to be better after surgery or why do 1000’s like me have this - for me life changing day surgery. I had the Nissan fundoplication which was 5 small punctures round my stomach , rib area . These after surgery were more like a gastric band which although I wasn’t very overweight encouraged me to not overeat but you are on a liquid diet for a few weeks afterwards. I just bought a blender and they give you a strict diet sheet . I kept to this . I lost 15-18kg and now maintain this . It encouraged me to live a healthier lifestyle afterwards as I had more energy and was medication free . Mentally I felt liberated. I changed jobs as I had new build confidence. Joined a gym . I have the stamina to do 3 Zumba classes per week . I am nearly 62 years old . I am not saying my story is common. I don’t know anyone else who has has this surgery but I was desperate and really ill before it . Feel free to show this to anyone who you think will be able to help you . My op was done by the NHS but before Covid which I think has radically changed thinking , priorities and budgets.

[AmFabulous in reply to focused1]

Focused ......Thanks for the explanation,please tell me how many years have u done this surgery and how do you feel now do you still have to visit the doctor on several occasions?,can you eat anything and don't have allergies? because I have lot of allergies,like coffee,tea,milk,garlic,ginger,sugar,meanwhile am happy for your recovery am looking forward to be like you someday after my surgery,because right now my life is messed up,I fee depressed all the time,I can't even engaged in my former activities anymore like playing football,gym,associate with many friends,hiatal hernia is as worst as death.

[focused1 in reply to AmFabulous]

I had the surgery in Jan 2018 .My op was around 10am and I went home about 9pm that night as they check when you come fully round whether you can freely swallow a hot drink and with me a thick yogurt . I don't see a GP or any medics for anything to do with this . I had one out patients appointment in May 2018 - more of a how are you doing . I was discharged fully then .I don't even take Gaviscon or anything for indigestion but I don't eat the same richer foods anymore . I don't have allergies . I do eat differently to maintain my weight so I don't eat much bread or red meat which were the 2 things I found the most difficult to digest although I feel I could . I get fuller quicker as this seems to be slightly like a gastric band but these are my words . I watch portion sizes but this is now a choice too. I exercise freely but a trigger to this was I found out that the NHS / GP could refer me to the PARIS - rehab scheme post surgery . This was a stepped programme with access to a personal expert based at the gym nearby - I didn't have a choice of gyms - where I got reduced membership for 6 months then reviewed. The next 6 months was reviewed with another modest increased discount then the next 6 months was normal price but I still had the go to trainer which I rarely used as I did more dance classes than the gym .Light swimming helped too. You do need to look after yourself after surgery by keeping strictly to the liquid diet , weaning slowly onto solids , expanding your choice of foods - worst was the ban of onion as everything seemed to contain it but my determination was triggered by how well I felt afterwards - maybe a week of soreness from the 5 small puncture wounds , feeling a bit cautious and wary . Just taking a few - not all the prescribed painkillers as you have to be with it to instruct someone or yourself in food prep - what you can have etc . Slowly going for walks . In my case the surgery was about 4-4.5 hours as I was vaguely told mine wasn't straight forward but I didn't ask details .

It is a choice between putting up with meds which for me didn't work then maybe over reading and over talking the negatives of long term use of these or taking a leap of faith and having surgery . I would not push anyone but I know what worked for me.

[Mauser1905]

Hello there,

opa.org.uk/gord-landing-page/

Please do have a read into the GORD and acid reflux pages in the OPA website. There are detailed articles for the treatment options for such cases.

Surgical procedures (e.g. Nissen Fundoplication partial or full) and LINX magnetic bands could be more permanent features for the GORD.

Most of the medicine options are probably daily symptom management options.