Bit of a sinister turn? A frightening road to go down.
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WTF??
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Wow! That, erm, is quite something.
It’s not clear who is calling for this but to even see that such a thought is out there, I just find sinister!
Where did you find this please?
I found the link it's on the BBC news website.
Well people all rushed to get lanyards at the beginning of the pandemic….maybe these people now want armbands ?
Sinister is a good word for it.
OMG! Really. I can’t say what I really think as would be kicked off the forum but terrible history repeating itself If we are expected to wear something like this comes to mind x
My exact thoughts. I am equally upset and repulsed by such a visual.
The frightening bit for me is that society is so divided right now, that it’s difficult to dismiss as something that would never happen!
I completely agree with you about something that could sadly happen. This pandemic has left a society divided as you say. So very sad and makes me so angry and upset that society has become so divided when I had hoped that it would bring us together. x
Absolutely agree.
It’s so difficult to know not just when this will all end, but how!
Like many here, I had great hopes of us sticking together, helping our fellow
Man, and the vaccine - I’m just not sure that any of this is enough?
I do worry abut the way in which things are opening up, whilst cases rocket and that the more vulnerable in society will be the acceptable risk?
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its hart breaking to see people so worried about this. it is far too easy to get predicted figures mixed up with real numbers.headline < there could be > up to 200,000 new cases a day. people read it as fact.
if you are worried about covid, take vitamin D look after your health, eat well and exercise. Go out enjoy yourself.
Take sensible precautions, but don't live in fear.
Let’s hope never 🙏🏻
Wearing the lanyard to me was a matter of personal choice and even though I have Bronchial Asthma I chose not to wear it. Being forced to wear something like this is abhorrently wrong on so many levels.
It appears it was a suggestion, not any political mandate per se.
However, things always start with a suggestion and in this current climate, nothing would surprise me!
I thought the same as soon as I saw it 😑😳 xx
in reply to Summerrain14
Yes my thoughts too
My thoughts too
Can’t see enough of photo to see the logo of who has put this forward. But Ugh!!
Exactly!
I cannot make it out either HH.
But I find the idea that someone took the time to even produce this, bloody frightening and quite sinister.
The logo is FCP which is First Contact Practitioner - so first aider
Just looked it up, its 1 guy with compromised immune system who has thought of this idea and made a prototype himself 🙄
He thinks it would be a good idea
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And he's 64 so should at least have an inkling of what happened in 1930's/40's. I'm disgusted
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That’s good to know!
However, it always starts with just ‘one guy!’
It’s a timely reminder that people need to be kind, tolerant and good in to what makes us human x
I always thought folk were proud to wear armbands And wondered why you were all so upset. Then I thought of the Second World War. I’m sure they would be be a good idea So long as they were designed to look cheerful. Con amore Bx
No. Just no
No way am i wearing a armband like that. Its bad enough i wear a lanyard sayingi am excused from wearing a mask. xx
Oh no not for me .. I had a rather grim thought when I saw it. I would feel tainted or an outcast. Rather WW2 …. No no no!
Apparently over 100,000 anti-vaxxers demonstrated in France on Saturday against the vaccination certificate - saying it was equal to the yellow stars that Jew were forced to wear by the Nazi’s.
WTF indeed....The world really has gone mad!
Yep
There are people who are so scared of leaving their houses because of the way “keep your distance “ is ignored….they would likely agree with anything - including armbands …because it would (wrongly) make them feel safe?
There's so much political division and violence here in the states I think I'd feel more like a target.
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Yikes!
Whatever next will they think of...ringing a bell like they used to have lepers do in the middle ages. What have things come to... it makes me so sad.
Hi all. Just found the (offending) article on the BBC website-
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s...
The man is a historian which makes this seem even worse but on reading it I think he just wants to help but definitely not the right way to go about it.
OMG! A historian! He needs to refresh himself on the Nazis. What next? A colorful patch affixed to clothing?
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As Summerrain14 said I can't write what I think of this. But it is in keeping with what else is happening in this country.
We can't walk round wearing that. I understand that is idea is thoughtful but I myself would feel a little embarrassed and upset even though there's nothing to be embarrassed about 😪
I’m not sure I understand it as positive, in any way what’s so ever. Thoughtful, it may be- well thought out, it is not.
The armband is offensive.
But... If the world were full of human kindness then wearing some small badge to let people know that you are CEV and trusting that others would then be careful around you and give you space, would be a good idea. In an ideal world. We do not live in a world of kindness and care for all our fellow beings. The Pandemic has demonstrated this, if we actually needed a reminder.
I might wear something other than an armband in the area I live, because I would feel pretty safe, but it would be experimental. I would take the risk, just to see...
We have seen so many acts of bravery, kindness and care during these horrific times, but we have witnessed selfishness and carelessness too.
Just how strong is our faith in human nature.
Go gently
In essence, I appreciate what you’re saying.
For me however, it would set a dangerous precedent. X
I think it might work in the small village where I live but that's because everyone here supports one another and wants to help. However, it'd be subject to abuse - or ridicule- or both in most areas and why should I need to broadcast that I am CEV anyway? Why can't everyone just be sensible and treat everyone else with respect?
Ha, no way that's ridiculous, can't be serious
The whole post bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s...
All your comments have really cheered me up. Good to know that not everyone is cowering in fear and demanding even more draconian measures-which is what the opinion polls seem to show. Thankyou!
My work wants me to wear a dandelion lanyard and I couldn’t put into words my discomfort around their “kind gesture.” These images have given me the words - thank you for posting.
Not for me thanks.
WTF indeed!
I think we all need a diamond pin, at least 1 carat, supplied by the government 😂😂😂
in reply to Appletree12345
Like your thinking 😂😂
I feel bad now because the Scot gov shielding lot emailed me a questionnaire to fill in and it asked how I’d feel about wearing some kind of wrist band or badge to signify that I’d like people to stay 2metres away and preferably masked inside. I ticked yes but privately wondered what this would look like apart from the lanyard/ clip on wrist band things people wore a lot to raise awareness for causes of as visibility if jogging etc.
Seeing this post and image is a stark reminder of where we seem to be heading now in terms of libertarian values taken to ghastly extremes.
I have a brother in law who has a serious hereditary medical condition. He’s made my sister in law’s life impossible over the past 15 years and is still causing her hell even in estrangement. Despite having a disabled badge and having needed the NHS many times he has become a well known anti vax demonstrator and vocal conspiracy theorist person about Covid.
He’s a well off, educated bullying thug who would shout that small hospitality businesses, young people and children should be prioritised and advocate the survival of the fittest. It’s a very bizarre thing that someone who has a serious, life threatening disability himself can take this position. However I have another former brother-in-law who is disabled too and who was equally nasty to my sister and probably holds similarly foul eugenicist type views.
All sorts of the nastiest aspects of human behaviour have emerged since the pandemic but I don’t think it’s as simple as ableism. I do think a disproportionate amount of those leading or supporting extremist libertarian marches and campaigns are of the same gender and type as those would have been Nazis, who abuse on Twitter - maybe the people who feel most marginalised and disregarded by the infinitely more progressive and humanitarian world Greta Thunberg stands for. So I’m horrified by this image - but also unsurprised.
I wish I could send it to the Scot.gov team who sent me that questionnaire about opening up and how those in the shielding group are feeling.
What I actually think is that those who go on Covid denying, anti mask, anti vax marches and protest about vaccine passports and abuse people on Twitter need shielding. They are the ones who need to wear these exact armbands so that we know who to avoid when they are allowed out for basics during non curfew times.
If I wanted to be as nasty as they are I’d say that anyone who has been a vocal Covidiot should be made to wait for a hospital bed until those who have been shielding, volunteering or have caring responsibilities have been prioritised. But that would be doing as they do and we can do better unless push really comes fo shove.
This way the rest of us who have a care and respect for our fellow humans and for the planet we all inhabit would be able to go into hospitals and other medical facilities, work places, travel on public transport without fear. We should be the ones who reclaim the streets, adapt the shops, pubs and other types of hospitality and retail - wear washable and recyclable masks and go about our business in a civilised and thoughtful way. If only. The horrible reality seems to have landed us somewhere very Margaret Atwoodian.
GinnyE in reply to
I can't watch The Handmaid's Tale because of the assumption of how brutal men could be towards women. But Atwood said she didn't put anything in that didn't already happen somewhere in the world. Makes me feel sick to my stomach.
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Nor can I. My autonomic nervous system makes me faint if scared so I just watch it vicariously via Gogglebox!
bienassis in reply to
Your referral to Margaret Attwood is interesting. Asked once in an interview if she was writing about a possible future, she replied "No; about the present".
Bienassis x
Carl Sagan predicted this back in the 90s back when he did an interview on Johnny Carson. Frighteningly accurate. He died shortly afterwards. Rome is 🔥
Mmrr in reply to
I share your views, you put it so much more eloquently than I could.
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Perfect idea .. anti vaxers should wear a form of identification 🤔 what could it be .. have many things going through my mind .. my favourite of the moment is a AV branded on the forehead 😁can but dream 😂
Hey Eiiram - Yes just found the article on Stoke Bbc site - as only just seen post. Just had to find out who brought up the suggestion! Each to their own I guess. Lupus uk have purple wrist bands so maybe something like that might be good to wear for those v v high risk anyway. In the end we all know what to do to keep ourself safe.
Yes indeed reminds you of the yellow star. I’m surprised we have not been given a bell and told to shout unclean as we walk down the road.
Next step will be CEV tattooed on our arms with NHS serial number.
Emm nope
I had to check this out as it seemed OTT - it has been suggested by a man who has himself got a weakened immune system - bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s...
So nothing to do with officialdom gone nuts, or anything sinister.
Blood cancer UK have produced a badge asking people to keep their distance and that would seem a reasonable way to go.
Oh dear this is soo bad on soo many levels, looks like the man thought it was a good idea but bless he's very mistaken. I agree with everyone's comments.
Suggested in April 2020, by UK GOV viz Matt Hancock. Or certificates as Angela Merkel proposed. I certainly don’t want an armband! It does seem way OTT
Seriously?? Ominous tones! I would never be agreeable
I found a report in newspaper The Sun dated April 2020. Not good. thesun.co.uk/news/11312795/...
I'm not saying that I would wear one of these pink arm bands, I'm not keen on the word vulnerable, but at least this one is a bit more cheerful and doesn't look as sinister in a historical context as the yellow/orange one? Also the one that is posted on the BBC news site has a green cross on it which would indicate that the person is first aid trained. It's an international symbol. The last thing I would want is someone rushing up to me to ask them about the severity of their splinter or ingrowing toenail.
Sorry if I'm not making myself clear. Brain fog has got the better of me but I just thought I would share an alternative and see what people thought?
Pink armband
I hear what you’re saying.
For me however, it could have sparking diamonds on it and it would little difference. I believe, no matter the reason, but particularly in the current climate when society is so divided generally, that singling out one group of people as “different”, is a dangerous road to go down x
I completely agree and I think putting a "badge" on any community within society is not a good thing. It is essentially divisive. Although from the other side of the coin I can understand those who choose to wear one.
Bottom line. If we were still having to social distance and wear face coverings this probably wouldn't be needed.
Agreed
Wow! That leaves me a bit dumbfounded. Who in the world would come up with such an idea?
Umm... A bit like the patches that prisoners of war had to wear.
Horrifying. Yes it does seem so divisive, everything that is been implemented. We must all stick together against what we can feel in our hearts is not right. Stay true to each other with empathy and compassion.
No thanks! As my mother in-laws parents and relatives were all murdered in auschwitz, I think I’ll pass. People wearing yellow stars at marches were a disgrace. They caused immense pain and hurt to many in the Jewish community. They disgust me.
