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Very tired but cannot sleep

Hi! One of the weird things it’s happening to me lately is that even though I’m worn out, I cannot sleep more than 5 hours a night :S

I started taking regularly some Valeriana tea before going to bed to see if it helps but nothing yet... anyway, I’m not sure that sleeping more at night will make such a difference on my afternoon fatigue, it’s that waking up at 4 or 5 is just too annoying (I start working at 10 am!!!).

Hope we all have a nice and pain free Saturday!!

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I have the same problem, totally fatigued, but sleep for a few hours and cannot sleep any more no matter how tired I am. However, when the disease is better controlled I do sleep for longer.

Strangely going to bed earlier sometimes helps me sleep longer. I've also set a reminder at 10 pm, to start doing quiet things and switch off my phone and other IT equipment around this point.

When I wake during the night, I try not to get too anxious about it and often get out of bed, do something quiet , read for 10 minutes, have a drink, sit on the couch for a short time...I tend to sleep better when I go back to bed.

I also changed to darker curtains to keep the morning light out.

All small things , but they often help.


I was in the same boat as you. Extremely fatigued and unable to get to sleep. And once asleep, Could not get to a rejuvenation state. I ended up going to a bunch of sleep classes to get my sleep clock back on track. I started doing a sleep journal which I found helped quite a bit.

One thing they said which worked very well for me was to stop eating a few hours before going to bed and to get rid of the electronics in the bedroom. Any type of blue light (eg mobile phone, iPad screens emit blue light which bring you cortisol levels up which trigger you to be awake. Cortisol is a stress hormone. I also started to keep 12 hours without eating. So if I finished eating at 8pm I would not eat again until 8am or so. This includes coffee. Any time your liver has to work, it creates cortisol, which disturbs you circadian rhythm.

I would also suggest seeing your doctor about taking melatonin. 2.5 - 5 mg per night works wonders for a lot of people.

Anyhow, hope it all works well for you and you get some much needed rest.




I’m the same I only drink 2 cups of coffee on a morning and rest of day I have diluted juice sugar free.I don’t eat after six.have no electric items in my bedroom have blackout curtains at my windows.go to bed shattered.climb into bed eyes open like an owl 🦉.then I drop off and wake early.

I don’t sleep during day neither

So I’m overtired.

So your not alone 🙂



Just wondered if you had had a look at the section on Sleep on the NRAS website - hopefully some good suggestions which may be of help to you.



No, I haven't seen it. I will check it.

Thank you very much!


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