Confused after reading Allen Carr - ok, makes me sound thick!

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Hi All

I will try to keep this simple and not waffle. I am on day 10, using patches and lozenges.

I decided to read 'the easy way to stop smoking' and am now feeling confused. He claims that what I am doing is using the will power method and that not many people manage to quit doing this.

Also ( I didnt really appreciate this before) nicotine is a poison, so what I am doing using NRT is still poisoning myself!!

I havent finished the book yet and not sure I want to continue as it is making me feel that I am already setting myself up to fail by using NRT.

I do agree though that by telling myself that I am freeing myself as apposed to quitting (and therefore denying myself something) I am feeling better about it.......stopping smoking that is.

I'm still confused as to what to do though

Advice greatfully received

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Thanks Kat

I will carry on with the book then

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Hi All

I will try to keep this simple and not waffle. I am on day 10, using patches and lozenges.

I decided to read 'the easy way to stop smoking' and am now feeling confused. He claims that what I am doing is using the will power method and that not many people manage to quit doing this.

Also ( I didnt really appreciate this before) nicotine is a poison, so what I am doing using NRT is still poisoning myself!!

I havent finished the book yet and not sure I want to continue as it is making me feel that I am already setting myself up to fail by using NRT.

I do agree though that by telling myself that I am freeing myself as apposed to quitting (and therefore denying myself something) I am feeling better about it.......stopping smoking that is.

I'm still confused as to what to do though

Advice greatfully received

Like Kat said, don't worry!!

TBH, I skipped that part 'cos I don't agree with him on NRT - he is very black and white (and male - apparently that makes a difference 'cos they have different brain chemistry to us) plus he was making himself seriously ill by smoking, all of which means it was easier for him to just stop. Good for him, but don't let that put you off quitting *your* way.

Take on board the psychological aspests he talks about, they're fab, but ignore the NRT part.

Personally, I think whatever works for you is the best option.

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Hi Gemma

I actually downloaded 'Allen Carrs Easy way for women to stop smoking'.....it was cheaper than the original on Kindle lol

I will continue with the book and my patches and lozenges

Thanks for the advice x

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Hi Gemma

I actually downloaded 'Allen Carrs Easy way for women to stop smoking'.....it was cheaper than the original on Kindle lol

I will continue with the book and my patches and lozenges

Thanks for the advice x

Ooh I was wondering about that - have just got the standard one, is it just replacing "he" with "she" or is it any different to the original?

You're doing fab hun, this time's going to be it xx

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Thank god for that. I was wondering if I was the only one :rolleyes:

I also found myself feeling as though I wasn't doing things right and I wasn't following the correct path.

It was our lovely Gemma who knocked it into my head that, while Allen Carr's books can be great motivation, it doesn't mean that I'm quitting wrong.

I'd like to finish his second book, as I put it to one side when I was really struggling, but I think I need to have more of an open mind the next time I indulge!

Some of the points are real eye openers, but I was definately left feeling like a bit of a failure when I'd finished the first book.

Maybe it's better for those people who are thinking of stopping, but are still smokers? People who haven't already started their own way? xxx

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It explains at the begining that women see things differently from men, he uses examples that women can relate to.............eg. watching their fella play football or going shopping lol

I must be male though because I hate shopping :confused:

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It explains at the begining that women see things differently from men, he uses examples that women can relate to.............eg. watching their fella play football or going shopping lol

I must be male though because I hate shopping :confused:

Lol, I like football (even understand the offside rule) and love shopping

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Lol, I like football (even understand the offside rule) and love shopping

Traitor. How can you like football?! *takes back frying pan*

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It explains at the begining that women see things differently from men, he uses examples that women can relate to.............eg. watching their fella play football or going shopping lol

I must be male though because I hate shopping :confused:

I like having the items I've bought from the shops, but I don't enjoy shopping one little bit.Don't worry Midwifey, you're not on your own there! x

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Thank god for that. I was wondering if I was the only one :rolleyes:

I also found myself feeling as though I wasn't doing things right and I wasn't following the correct path.

It was our lovely Gemma who knocked it into my head that, while Allen Carr's books can be great motivation, it doesn't mean that I'm quitting wrong.

I'd like to finish his second book, as I put it to one side when I was really struggling, but I think I need to have more of an open mind the next time I indulge!

Some of the points are real eye openers, but I was definately left feeling like a bit of a failure when I'd finished the first book.

Maybe it's better for those people who are thinking of stopping, but are still smokers? People who haven't already started their own way? xxx

That's the risk with it - and partly why a few years back I just read a few chunks on Amazon and didn't buy.

It *is* meant to be read while you smoke, but the points about the psychology apply just as well to non-smokers or people with e-cigs.

Glad I helped you hun, *he* isn't going to say it because it would dilute the message in his book, but there isn't a right or wrong way to stop smoking - maybe it would be easier if there was. We all have our own reasons for starting and for stopping, and our own triggers etc, so one size won't fit all.

For my part, reading Allen Carr knocked the part of me that still wanted to be a smoker somewhere into outer space - not bad going 'cos I'd (no idea why) wanted to smoke (and did in varying degrees, unfortunately) since my early teens and that part had never died until now.

xx

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Traitor. How can you like football?! *takes back frying pan*

Nooooooooooooooo *holds on tight*

I picked it up from my nan, same for cricket.

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I like having the items I've bought from the shops, but I don't enjoy shopping one little bit.Don't worry Midwifey, you're not on your own there! x

I like having the items, buying them, even like going and window shopping even if I don't buy anything - unless I'm skint then it depresses me

Hate paying though - and when the credit card bill comes through the door :/

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Don't be absurd Gemma

No female understands the offside rule :rolleyes:

A player is offside if he is in front of the penultimate defender, at the point the ball is kicked to him.

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Nooooooooooooooo *holds on tight*

I picked it up from my nan, same for cricket.

Lol. *gives up trying to pull frying pan from Gemma's iron grasp*

Fine. But no more talk of football allowed! Cricket, I don't mind (though I don't know how to play!). Also, you may talk about formula one. I quite like that!!

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A player is offside if he is in front of the penultimate defender, at the point the ball is kicked to him.

*hears Gemma mumble "I told you so" at Max*

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Offside - what about the phase of play? What if the defender gets a touch?

Allen Carr: I read his book before quitting (didn't agree with a lot of it...especially the 'yippee'' parts). Six months later my quit started. After a week on lozenges I read it again - it made a lot more sense then. I am now 18 months smoke free but don't think I would have cracked it without the lozenges in the dark days of week 1. I guess you should take away the bits that are relevant to you - anything helps!!!

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could be a theraputic exercise, to underline (or put stars in the margin) in green pencil what you strongly agree with and use a red pencil for what you consider a load of old tosh.

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could be a theraputic exercise, to underline (or put stars in the margin) in green pencil what you strongly agree with and use a red pencil for what you consider a load of old tosh.

Good idea Trea but i'm reading it on my kindle lol

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Good idea Trea but i'm reading it on my kindle lol

Hahaha! maybe not then, inyour mind you can call them red/green comments!!