Hi everyone,
I cannot believe i have actually got here!! Day 25!!
i fell great . I have smoked for 12 years about 15 a day. I used patches for the first 2 weeks and for the last week and a bit ive been using just willpower!! no need for patches my cravings dont seem to be that stong?? ive always got some on me just in case though!!
Heres to the next 3 weeks!!
26yo
stopped Friday 13th January 2012
I am just 2 days ahead...I am on day 27! Keep GOING...
do what you need to do to make it...I have a lozenge when
the going gets TUFF! 1/2 a tablet under the tongue gets
me thru any fit! I do this maybe 3 or 4 times a day, if that!
I am determined and I am NOT around other smokers!!
YOU CAN DO IT...God Bless!
Hi guys thanks for your messages!!
you are both doing so well! we WILL get there!
I have been using the 15mg invisi patch. I tried the 25mg but it made me sick. Dont really think about apart from my partner and friends all smoke. I am trying to get them to do it with me but its not there time yet and im not the type to force! Im sure they will c the light 1 day!!!!!!!
Well done again!
take care, Martin x
Just entered DAY 27! Get in!:):):)
Day 24
Greetings from down under. I think everone that has quit is doing great. I agree do whatever it takes. But..... after 3 weeks you really should try and stop all N.R.T's
Nicotine is the addictive part of smoking and by continuing on N.R.T's you are still feeding the beast. Don't quit one form of the drug by taking up another.
Don't believe me than you tube Allen Carr. The bloke should be posthumestly knighted.
I agree to do the 12 week course
Hi,
I have also completed one month of NRT patches before and then fallen off the wagon so this time I am going to follow the course and do the whole 3 months.
Good luck
Well done martin,
I'm less than a week behind on Day 19, can't believe it!
Well done, us!
I too tried the 25mg patch over 16 hours, that went kind of ok in a previous quit attempt, but another time I used the 21mg/24 hour nitquitin patch and had palpitations so that was an 'off you pop wrong strength' moment.
I really don't know why that is, as of course the 25 was so much stronger and delivering more per hour... oh well good to know anyhow.
Another time I struggled like Hell for a week only to cave in, I found the patches were out of date.......
... the patch dosage isn't harmful, it is always good to know though that the LD50 for nicotine is just 60mg so it pays to dispose of patches carefully and NOT down the loo (all been, I know I have).
The LD50 for kids has been calculated at just 10mg...
NRT big brother conspirasist
Hi again fellow non smokers,
Sorry I should have explained a bit more about my old habit in my previous post. I'm 45 and have been smoking for 30 years. The last 15 or so 50+ a day. I was a chain smoker and thought I would never stop. I didn't want to stop. When asked when I would stop my reply was "when I'm 6 foot under".
Decided to quit 25 days ago and haven't looked back. I wonder if there was such thing as a heroin patch, if an addict would ever give up???? Maybe they could just slowly cut down the amount they inject every time, then just stop?? I would like to hear of such a case.
Nicotine is said to be more addictive than heroin. Why would you continue to to use a drug to stop your use of a drug. NRT suppliers purchase their nicotine from the same place as tobacco companies. We see NRT suppliers as trying to help?? They are a company and have to make profits for their shareholders. Do you think they honestly want you to stop using their product? Am I being to cynical? It has obviously worked for some.
I am a proponent of cold turkey but again whatever blows your hair back. Keep on keeping on peeps
To NRT or not to NRT!!
Hi Deanoo
I don't know if heroin patches exist but I do know that gradually decreasing the dose of heroin administered would be preferable to cold turkey in some cases. The same argument applies to extreme alcohol addiction - stopping drinking abruptly can kill you - something to do with enzyme production.
Nicotine is different in that death would not result upon withdrawal. However, because of the frequency with which it is taken by people and the effectiveness of the delivery to the body by smoking a strong case can be made for NRT when stopping smoking. I don't believe nicotine is as addictive as heroin but as a habit form it's up there.
So long as people smoke there will be market for NRT so I think they'll always be in business.
By the way you've done very well with your quit. Well done.
Deanoo has read the Allen Carr book and Allen Carr does not agree with NRT's, If you read the book you will understand why, Its really an excellent book and helps a lot good luck all, you are all doing so well!!!!
Allen Carr
Hi Carolyn05
I have read Allen Carr. Yes, he doesn't believe in NRT's. That's fine but if the difficulty in going cold turkey is stopping people from quitting smoking then I think there is a place for NRT"s.
Allen Carr doesn't believe in medications like Champix either yet Champix works for me. Cold turkey hasn't worked for me in the past because I could never resist that almost euphoric feeling that I would get when I had a cigarette for the first time after not smoking for about a week or so. I could feel the sensation going to my fingers and up the back of my neck - I loved it!!!
I won't get that feeling from smoking while on Champix so that is one of my major stumbling blocks gone. I'm hoping that after 12 weeks I'm going to feel so good that I would never ruin what I've achieved.
I understand what you are saying... you have to do what works for you because NRT's and all other methods work differently for different people, we are not all the same and one thing might work for me but it doesnt work for you, I agree 100%, Im also using Champix and I find it works for me! I have also tried going cold turkey in the past and I just cant do it, Its impossible, The cravings and withdrawal symptoms are just too strong and I cant cope so I have found champix to be an absolute blessing cos on it I have no cravings for a cigarette at all!!! Anyhow, Good luck we can do this!!
Hi there, I'm on day 43 using patches, I smoked for 10 years and I have tried every stop smoking method known to man, patches, gum, cold turkey, inhalators and in my humble opinion none will work unless you actually want to stop and stay strong in your resolve.
Its the most psychologically challenging thing I have ever experienced!
The arguements against any method are valid, NRT manufacturers want you to buy their product, Pzeizer want your doctor to purchase Champix, Allen Carr wants you to buy his book, its a multi faceted money making cycle. We can only try different methods until we find what works for us.
I work in a hospital and I see COPD, Respiratory failure, cancer etc, I've even seen a smokers lungs during surgery! They look awful as well.
My mum has lung cancer and I still struggle some days, if anyone can go a few days without a fag I have respect for them as it is hard.
Keep going everyone, its worth it in the long run.
Xxx
Thank you for sharing your story That was truly motivational.. Best of luck all...Keep it up
Hi Deanoo
I don't know if heroin patches exist but I do know that gradually decreasing the dose of heroin administered would be preferable to cold turkey in some cases. The same argument applies to extreme alcohol addiction - stopping drinking abruptly can kill you - something to do with enzyme production.
Nicotine is different in that death would not result upon withdrawal. However, because of the frequency with which it is taken by people and the effectiveness of the delivery to the body by smoking a strong case can be made for NRT when stopping smoking. I don't believe nicotine is as addictive as heroin but as a habit form it's up there.
So long as people smoke there will be market for NRT so I think they'll always be in business.
By the way you've done very well with your quit. Well done.
Well there are such things as fentanyl patches for constant pain relief but no heroin patches as such, their abuse potential would be frightening!!
As for me, the patch is as much a psychological shield as a physical withdrawal suppressant, to the point where at the end of my last period using them, I was able to come off them at 14mg, ok so my Dr being an experienced and wise man allowed me to stay on them for a bit longer than 6 weeks, but I think the point is even more valid really.
Then again, this is just a personal and subjective view.
Well done deano.
Good luck to all!:)6270
I quit back in oct 11 using patches for the whole 12 weeks they worked for me. iv been off them now for about 4 weeks so i guess im cold turkey now. i know that i couldnt have done it without them. every time i put on a patch i was banned from smoking and got my drug via another means. It was smoking that i was addicted to both physically and psychologically. nicotine is easy to stop . smoking is somewhat harder but only because i associated it with so many different things. using the patches enabled me to break the tie between smoking and associations like coffee , waiting for the train, worrying, boredom blah blah blah. every time i broke an associsation i was nearer to the end of my smoking career until eventually i was free of nicotine and able to walk unaided.
iv used patches before in previous quits and stopped using them earlier than was recomended ,of course i started smoking again and then for a while i was backwards and forwards stopping and starting, which is very damaging to your willpower and confidence.. staying the course for 12 weeks is what did it for me..
mash x
24 Days Nicotine free
