can anybody tell me what this ingredient is as i,m going through my cupboard and its in g/f w/f pastry mix i can,t eat any gluten as most of you may know hope someone can let me know as at the moment i,m terrified of eatting anything other than things that i know what is in it, really think i,d be better just drinking water i,m going camping for 2 weeks on sunday and want to know what to take,i,m getting sick of meat and veg,LUCKLY i love boiled rice may need to live on that

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  • Hi Dobido, It's used as an egg replacer and is used extensively in vegan food. It is also an emulsifier which means that it binds oil and water. So it helps food to bind and thicken foods. Hence it being used in gf mixes for pastry etc. I hope this helps and have a good camping holiday and I hope the weather is good for you.


  • Dobido I am intolerant to hydroxpropylmethylcellulose as well as glucose syrup. It means I cannot eat any of the GF products as they all seem to contain it. Some months ago - Pretender I think it was, told me about this stuff but I cannot find the post under the new system. Maybe it will come up on a search for hydroxpropylmethylcellulose. Sometimes like you I get fed up of eating the same things. Not being able to eat things with hydroxpropylmethylcellulose excludes oats for me which was a blow. I look through recipe books and adapt ingredients. Sometimes I use cream to make a sauce and use things like basil and oregano a lot. Sometimes I just run out of ideas and creativity. Besides I am a very fussy eater which doesn't help.

    Going camping is going to be a challenge. I have not been camping since being GF but I guess you will have to try and find some easy cooking camping food. Although you are fed up with meat, bacon and eggs are good camping food! If you can eat baked beans some of the brands are GF aren't they? I have found some crackers to eat from GF in Tescos that did not contain hydroxpropylmethylcellulose which were okay for a short period of time. They would be good with cheese (I can't eat some cheeses, bacon or eggs now but I used to). One of the things I loved about camping was eating in the fresh air and even the simplest stuff seemed to taste so good! We used to cook potatoes and mix them with bacon and grated cheese or tins of tuna! Not everybody's cup of tea but it was fun trying to make nice things for our family on two rings! If you like rice I wonder if the jars of vegetables you can get in Tescos or Sainsburys have any dodgy ingredients as they would be good to mix together. I hope you have a good time camping.

  • Hi dobido, one site I've found seems to say it's derived from pine-gum from pine trees! I have read on GFG that some people are sensitive to it. I guess it's just another one of those additives that we have to be wary of... it's in some gluten-free breads to help stop the bread from falling apart. I prefer to use either flaxseed or chia sees when I make gluten free muffins/rolls at home. It's a shame you don't like meat or vegetables as there are so many tasty dishes to make with them if you add herbs and spices/tinned tomatoes/cream. Do you eat tinned tuna? You can make a lovely tuna and rice dish? Good luck :) Enjoy your camping!

  • hi its not that i don,t like meat and veg just fed up with it as started doing stews so it do,s not look like a plate of meat and veg use to like tuna but at beginning i had been having tuna and rice or pasta for lunch nearly every day thanx and i,m sure i,ll enjoy my hols

  • I know what you mean - a lot of my meals these days are meat/fish and two veg, and I never used to eat like that. Stir-fries are good to mix it up a bit (though probably not for camping) and I also make giant salads with meat/veg/bacon/nuts/pesto sauce etc etc added in. If you want some ideas try googling paleo recipes, as there are loads of them (mainly on American sites) and they're all gluten free and mainly dairy free, though a bit meat heavy.

    These people do gluten free ready meals that are marketed as camping food (I'm not advertising them - had one once!) Not all are gluten free, though, I think.


  • It's E464 and derived from plant cellulose so here's some more info on it and it's adverse reactions:


  • thanx jerry just had look seems like more tummy problems

  • Perhaps when you have time take a look at recipes from different countries that have gluten free food, like Indian or Mexican food. They might give you some more ideas.

    I can't eat anything with the cellulose in it either. I find xanthan gum is a problem too.

  • Hello, you could add Chinese into your mix. Obvious things to avoid are wheat noodles (there are lots of other kinds of noodles eg bean, potato, rice) and soy sauce (gluten free tamari, rice wine/vinegar). Find a good chinese supermarket, you'll find the best labels on foods from Malaysia and Thailand, and browse the shelves. Useful foods in many forms are things like coconut, peanut, tofu and a great range of sauces (sriracha if you like spicy/chilli).

  • Hi,have you googled "Hydroxypropylmethylcellulose"? It is made from plant material etc. Its is used mainly in gf bread type products replacing gluten derivatives. It has many uses from ophthalmic to construction, its counterpart "Hypromellose" is used in medication so that the main drug is carried past the acids in the stomach and then the main drug is released. These ingredients known as HMPC also have leachable formaldehyde capabilities. Should you find you react to this ingredient medical help is suggested

  • Why not try our Isle's lovely selection of Fresh Fish? they can be mixed to make fish cakes seafood pies with potato toppings, can be served with rice ,GF pasta's or rice noodles, or simply on their own, there are a variety of Stir fry's using ingredients Mrs Pepperpot mentioned in a previous post, I to have found it a bore with menus when I first was diagnosed but I love the challenge of finding and creating exciting meals.

  • Bit late for you now, but I take packets of GF soup when camping for fast food after everyone else has cooked theirs.

  • as a manufacturer of HPMC ,introduce HPMC :Hydroxypropyl Methyl Cellulose product is a non-ionic cellulose ether made through a series of chemical processes, with the natural polymer cellulose as the raw material. The product is a non-ionic cellulose ether in the shape of white powder, odorless and tasteless. In cold water, it swells into a clear or slightly turbid colloidal solution. It has thickening, adhesion, dispersion, emulsification, film-formation, suspension, gelation, surface activity, water retention, providing protective colloids and other properties. Hydroxypropyl methyl cellulose (HPMC) can be used in building materials, synthetic resin, ceramic industry, medicine, food, textile, agriculture, daily chemicals and other industries.

    read more : celluloseether.com/sidleyce...

  • Hydroxypropylmethylcellulose is basically be derived from wood and has many uses including catering, it has replaced gluten in many products, making them truly gluten free. The equivalent Hypromellose is used in medication coatings allowing the main drug to pass the acids in the stomach. However there is a downside (like there is on most things) to some these items produce leachable formaldehyde. This is the downside for me, yes I have been clinically tested at the highest level and react to formaldehyde orally, respiratory & contact.

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