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Has anybody seen this book on BAT in Prostate Cancer??

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Greetings FPC'ers,

I was wondering if anybody had seen this book on BAT :

amazon.com/stores/Russ-Holl...

I think it is in Kindle form only... Anybody got a review??

Thanks,

DD

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KocoPr

To me it is a great book for BAT and prostate cancer. It is more for reference and many different protocols of BAT in different PCa stages. It is also excellent for every conceivable BAT drug with half lives and pathways for those drugs. It doesn’t read as a story but more like a manual so no fluff.

Also references all the clinical trials with links

I highly recommend spending the the few bucks.

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NPfisherman in reply toKocoPr

Thanks for your input, KP... for those looking for a cookbook, this sounds promising... KINDLE ONLY...

For some, this patient's guide by Denmeade and Antonarakis could be a good starter:

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...

Everyone is responsible for their own razzle dazzle play n=1. For me, it is something that I would consider as a possible addition in my razzle dazzle mdt bootleg.n=1..... I watch and see what works, and what doesn't... and add.... combination approach works...

Ahhhh, the Science.... (and the n=1 do count).... In medicine, it is called a patient case presentation... lol... anyone presenting today??

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NPfisherman in reply toKocoPr

KP,

Ummm, apologies !!! I did not mean you for the presentation as a direct question, but thank you.... it is good that people looking at doing BAT have some real live example(s) , since waiting for the completion of a Phase II/III is literally a life time for some of us..

Kudos, amigo

DD

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ragnar2020

I highly recommend this book and I have reviewed it on Amazon. Buy the Kindle edition because it has online links to the reference medical journal articles. I know Russ, and he is a serious PCa warrior. He has been updating tHe contents of the book as his own situation changes and adding to the reference information. It is one of the best books that I have seen from a PCa patient about his own situation and applying BAT in the DIY setting. You will not get a lot of support from the medical establishment who adheres to SOC protocol, so Russ’s book offers good clear guidance. He is not offering medical advice. He is simply telling other PCa gents what he has been doing.

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NPfisherman in reply toragnar2020

Thanks for the input, my friend...

The essential case presentation by the patient, as opposed to the physician... we are in unknown territory/ early stages in regards to specific biomarkers for BAT, and for HSPC, because of the way medical research is geared, this is the final frontier, and everyone is their own commander... Waiting for the science is 10 years away most likely... the FDA and their slow a-- ways... mother of pearl...

DD

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fast_eddie in reply toragnar2020

I already know that my urologist is dead set against BAT. Maybe I need to read this book to learn more about it. My life, my choices.

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NPfisherman in reply tofast_eddie

Everyone travels their own path... I wish there were biomarkers for who benefits and who doesn't, but the Science is lagging behind on how to utilize the answers for the specific patient population. We are at the beginning of things... frustrating...

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addicted2cycling in reply toNPfisherman

Been told that every journey begins with 1 step but I feel like I'm still crawling 9 years since mine began.

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NPfisherman in reply toaddicted2cycling

Right with you partner.... I will be telling my own tale of the search for El Dorado (a long remission/cure) ...Going into year 7 for this journey....I will put up my path when I get done writing my next post on Resistance... I kinda owe it to KocoPr after he put up his results... I asked him who would n=1 case present next, and he just jumped up and did it... Kudos to him on a popular post... and then Ichthus316 posted his path... If I don't put up my own path, then I am weak... Oh, the shame to be found wanting in the eyes of the forum... But,....on to Resistance...

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addicted2cycling in reply toNPfisherman

Holding my breathe so MAKE IT FAST!!! 🤣

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NPfisherman in reply toaddicted2cycling

Breathe... or you will turn blue and fall off your bike... it's a work in process, so it can not be rushed... but in process, and at a forum near you soon...oh yeah...

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addicted2cycling in reply toNPfisherman

" Breathe... or you will turn blue and fall off your bike... "

I had a crash ON THE BIKE Monday morning!!! and breathing at the time so maybe holding my breath will keep me safe.

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Ichthus316

Last year, I read a pdf version of Russ’ book from cover to cover. I read the chapters on BAT twice. His well-researched knowledge and insights gave me the understanding and courage I needed to try my own n=1 pBAT program, where I have recently begun cycle #3. (I hope to post 2nd cycle results on this forum soon.)

For hormone sensitive PCa guys like us, this is the only option because BAT is available only for castrate resistant men within clinical trials. Yet there are a number of HSPC men doing BAT, in part, because its mechanisms have the potential to delay (or even reverse) CRPC.

I highly recommend Russ’ book. An online version should be available if you join the facebook group he started (although he has suspended making new posts there):

facebook.com/groups/8909068...

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NPfisherman

I316,

Thanks for the reply and information... We look forward to your post, and appreciate your willingness to share...

As I love to say, we are at the mere beginnings of things in the golden age of oncological research and getting answers...

Long live the Science !!!

Don Pescado

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Cooolone

Glad to see Russ publishing the information as sharing information is key to many patients chosing their paths, especially those looking for alternatives to SOC!

I remember the scant information available just a few years ago in regard to BAT, but today how it's grown and how comparatively there are also multiple studies happening today when not too long ago could be counted on one hand.

Of course the most difficult thing is and will be trying to identify and discover which patients would most benefit from this path... But as with all things in life, it comes down to choices, and we should be free to chose as we wish, not just those hardened and entrenched SOC methodologies as our treatments.

All good stuff!

Thanks for posting :)

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NPfisherman in reply toCooolone

Mr C,

Indeed, it is great to see him be a guide to others on BAT.... This unknown territory is just n=1, and understanding the tenets on BAT, because there is nothing more in MHSPC... Good for him...

Sadly, he proved to be "way too dangerous" to the powers that be, and was eliminated... Such a loss of knowledge... Was he trolling?? not that I know of... No, a far greater crime.... presenting an alternative to SOC... Sounds like someone that has been supporting SBRT/MDT for years, and stayed just within the dangerous zone limits...

DD

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Hunterfugi1 in reply toNPfisherman

Using it to guide my exbat treatment w/ 1 year in and having stable psa and scans

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NPfisherman in reply toHunterfugi1

Glad to hear this... Everyone chooses their own path... May your path be smooth and straightforward... thanks for your input...

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MateoBeach

studied it carefully and applied it to my BAT regimen for substantial refinement. Russ is the most knowledgeable in applying pharmacology to BAT. He is currently taking time off from forums.

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NPfisherman in reply toMateoBeach

It's a resource that I wanted to draw attention to for those looking for information or looking at the option of doing BAT vs SOC... Thanks for your input...

Hope things are progressing well for you...

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MateoBeach

Yes, thank you Fish. Recovery progressing well. Quite a ride! My best to you. MB

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