Okra (Bhendi) water

[santoshi22]

From past 1 month i am drinking this sticky water of okra after 20 min of every meal and i have noticed that my pps levels have come down considerably.

I cut 4 okra into small slices and squeeze is in 150 ml water and drink it.

Even after taking metformin my pps was 190 -200. I used to take 1000mg in the morning and 500 at night. But with this drink my pps is not more than 150 ( i stoped taking the morning 1000mg tablet and the numbness of my fingers has also vanished.

It is working for me, PLEASE check if it works for you.

[sandybrown]

Try, boiling it first, drink the boiled water and also eat it, give it a try!

[santoshi22 in reply to sandybrown]

Will try. Thank you so much.

[Haldin21 in reply to sandybrown]

What's the rationale for boiling the okra in water first? I've not come across this and am therefore curious to know as to why you are recommending it.

Also, could you say how long one should boil (simmer?) the okra for, and confirm that it is a case of boiling first and then simmering the brew?

Thanks.

[gangadharan_nair]

Studies on okra and diabetes. ... We do know that according to one study, okra water improved the blood sugar levels of pregnant rats that had gestational diabetes. Roasted okra seeds, which have long been used in Turkey to treat diabetes, have also been studied and proven to have a positive effect on lowering blood sugar.

Take two to four small pods, cut off the tips, puncture or slice the sides, and soak them overnight in 8 ounces of water. Then take the pods and squeeze the goop into a new cup and add water to that.

Eating too much okra can have an adverse effect on some people.

Fructans and gastrointestinal problems: Okra is rich in fructans, a type of carbohydrate that can cause diarrhea, gas, cramping, and bloating in people with bowel problems. ...

Oxalates and kidney stones: Okra is also high in oxalates.

Links:-

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okra#...

[santoshi22 in reply to gangadharan_nair]

Thank you for the information sir.

[santoshi22]

Actually i had developed vitamin dificiencies after starting metformin, especially b12. I had a lot of numbness in my fingers. After I stopped taking my morning dose metformin of 1000mg my numbness stoped immediately. I take metformin+methylcobalamin(b12)

[Haldin21 in reply to santoshi22]

sorry, not clear on what is causing the numbness - metformin OR b12? Are you taking b12 separately now after stopping metformin + b12 combo pill? I developed numbness of the feet for half a year at least and recently read somewhere that it's caused by magnesium deficiency which most diabetics have due excessive magnesium discharge via the urine. Though I have been taking a lot of (powder-form) magnesium daily, it has not helped to reduce the numbness.

Eventually, I resorted to applying it on the skin instead. I bought some Epsom salt (magnesium sulphate), dissolved a tbsp in water and apply it on both legs and was amazed at how fast a relief that gave me. The overall numbness has been reduced by 80-90%. So, this transdermal approach to supplementing magnesium appears to be superior to oral intake. Try it if you have peripheral numbness.

However, I do not see how this is linked to either metformin or b12 since it seems to suggest that magnesium deficiency is the causative factor.

[mcenerny]

I have not tried Okra, but believe it is probably true that it helps control blood sugar levels - those mucilagenous plants are amazing in their health benefits. I stopped using Metformin years ago because it was causing peripheral nerve damage - one of the side effects you have to really dig to find. I have used powdered dried Neem leaf exclusively to control my blood sugar (which I harvest and dry from my own Neem tree) and have completely reversed my type 2 diabetes. I still take the Neem powder capsules (can be purchased on Amazon) for its many other benefits - it is an old Ayervedic remedy.

[santoshi22 in reply to mcenerny]

Thank you so much for the information.

[Haldin21 in reply to mcenerny]

Interesting info on neem usage, thanks. Could you pls say how much neem leaf powder you use on daily basis and the number of times as well? The powder form is readily available where I am.

I've tried drinking the tea form of neem before but have not found any glucose- lowering effects. Have you tried drinking the tea form - infusion of the leaves, that is. I read somewhere that long-term use of neem is not advisable. What do you think?

I've found no glucose-lowering effect with bendi too. I wonder why.

[mcenerny in reply to Haldin21]

I take a 500mg neem capsule twicea day - on empty stomache. I am no longer diabetic - nornal AIC (5.5). Iwas taking 2 capsules before meals before. I found the tea too bitter to take. My neem is organic, from my Neem tree, freshly picked, dried and put into capsules. No idea how the strength would compare to purchased product. Also had not heard about negative effects of long term us, but have not experienced any in the 6+ years I have used it.

[Haldin21 in reply to mcenerny]

Thanks for the quick response!

Questions : [1] Were you a newly-diagnosed diabetic when you FIRST started the neem regimen? If you were, that could explain why it worked well. For those who have had it for a long time, I am wondering if the +ve effect will also obtain or not.

I actually like the bitter taste of neem so it's not really an issue for me. I sometimes combine it with mango leaves, and agaru leaves (very, very bitter and nasty taste), pandan leaves and even dried pieces of karela - a brew strong enough to make some people faint :- )

[2] Do you reduce the whole leaves to powder before encapsulation - you mentioned only picking and drying and then go onto encapsulating, so I'm wondering how one can do push the dried leaves into a small capsule : - )

[3] How soon after you dosed on neem did you notice the glucose-lowering effect - I'm referring to the time you FIRST tried it. Immediately, or weeks and months later?

Thanks again.

[mcenerny in reply to Haldin21]

I had been on Metformin for quite a few years - 6+. I experienced the B12 impairment and nerve damage which Metformin can cause. I ended up with pernicious anemia and had to inject to build up levels. I had lost about 60 lbs before realizing from deeply researching side effects of Metformin that it was probably causing my problems. I dicovered Neem by accident. I had planted the Tree to harvest it for the insect repellent properties for my organic garden, but my son accidentally added some of my dried (and powdered) Neem to spaghetti sauce. Of course we immediately were aware of the foreign taste and when I found out he had added Neem I quickly did a search to see if we might be in danger of poisoning . That is how I discovered all the other benefits of Neem as a supplement, and was perticularly interested in the treatment for type 2 diabetes. I immediately began filling capsules to experiment with it for glucose lowering properties. I experienced immediate reduction - the next day, and had to stop taking metformin because my blood sugar was crashing. The supposedly permanent neuropathy in my feet was alleviated and my B12 levels improved. I do powder the dried leaves, in my blender which I then sift with a colander to get fine powder. I measured by weght, the amount I could get into #2 gelatin capsules and began taking 2 to get 1 mg 30" before each meal. The results for me were immediate and dramatic.

[Haldin21 in reply to mcenerny]

Thanks for the interesting story - I did read about neem's potential as diabetic therapy - the powder form is readily available. Do you want to go into the trouble of turning the leaves into powder - very admirable, I must say despite the time-consuming effort. So the impact was almost immediate - the next day as you say. Wonderful ! I also read that the neem fruit is even more potent. Have you tried it?

I think you mean 1 gm, and not 1 mg, half an hour before each meal. Does this mean you take 3 gm per day, to cover the 3 daily meals?

[mcenerny in reply to Haldin21]

Yes - 1 gram 3xday Important to take on empty stomache. I have not tried the seeds - they could be used to create oil - too much work since I have achieved my goal with the leaves. It is a time consuming process, but I do enjoy being able to provide all my own medicines. I also grow turmeric which I also dry and powder and that is a lot more work to prepare. I have been making herbal tinctures from my own home grown plant materials for anxiety, insomnia, antibacterial and anti-inflammation, wound and tissue damage, joint and bone repair - I am 76 years old and take no precription medications. Gentle, natural supplements and remedies.

[Haldin21 in reply to mcenerny]

OK, the specs you provide are very clear now. Re neem fruit - I believe the users just pop them into the mouth and eat right away. I've never seen my potted neem plant grow fruit, so no way of even dosing on that though it would be nice to taste it once to see what it is like.

What I would like to do is to mix neem powder with turmeric powder and with a pinch of black pepper. Research findings have reported the active ingredients of turmeric are not readily bioavailable because of poor absorption. Peperine, a black pepper extract, is often added to turmeric increase the bioavailability. Anyway, turmeric has been found to aid diabetics lower their BS / BG, among other things so it's a good idea to combine all three to give a more potent effect. We call turmeric 'kunyit' - used a lot in food. Western countries have become very enthusiastic about turmeric recently, and not a day goes by without some scientific papers extolling its marvellous properties and healing potential, while Indian nationals quietly go about using it in Devi worship rituals and relishing it in curries and else, as they always have been from time immemorial.

[mcenerny in reply to Haldin21]

I am not sure about mixing the Neem with Turmeric - What I learned about Neem is it is most effective taken alone without anything else - don't remember exactly the rationale, but seemed an important point when I was researching it. I always do the turmeric separately - I blend and freeze the fresh roots with fresh squeezed orange juice in ice cube trays. They are handy and refreshing. I also add peperine oll to it to increase bioavailability. I also dry the turmeric root to have powder on hand to add to pet foods and my own - but I like it fresh the best. I find that it is more effective in treating skin problems on my dog and it also helped him enormously in recovering from accidental pesticide poisioning from the neighboring coffee plantation. The dried powder added to his food did not have the same efficacy as the freshly prepared dose I had to squirt into his throat - he seemed to be dying when I began doing that - could not move his legs, just lay still breathing shallowly. A couple of hours later, giving him the turmeric root solution directly into his mouth, he began to recover, managed to stand up for a bit. two days later he was back to bouncing around the garden. A worrisome allergy reaction on his tummy also cleared up overnight with the turmeric dosing. It started to return when I switched back to powder in his food, so I started using the fresh preparation again. Using food as your medicine is hard work - but it is so needed and so woth the effort.

[sandybrown in reply to mcenerny]

Mixing is not a problem, when we eat rice and curry, how many items are mixed during the curry cooking process in small quantities!

Look up on moringa powder? when I was small my grand mother used to coo the leaf and also the stick!

In Europe moringa powder is super food.

[mcenerny in reply to sandybrown]

No, mixing is not a problem.

But using Neem for blood sugar control, as well as other diseases is more effective taken alone.

healthinputs.com/6-benefits...

[sandybrown in reply to mcenerny]

Curry leaf is used in cooking with other species. I use curry leaf in tomato and onion salad with olive oil.

Some people pick the curry leaf from rice and curry and put it to one side, I eat the cooked curry leaf because there is goodness in it.

[mcenerny in reply to sandybrown]

Yes, of coure everyone does that. We were discussing specific properties of Neem and Turmeric, and the most effective way to take for maximum therapeutic benefits. Noone here has claimed you cannot/should not mix different foods and herbal flavorings - just trying to gain maximum health benefits by proper administration for that purpose - different from using for cooking and flavoring.

[sandybrown in reply to mcenerny]

Wonderful, healthy discussion!

[Lakshmanan1954]

I have tried several times but no effect.

[santoshi22 in reply to Lakshmanan1954]

You should drink it along with or after meals and it should be sliced and squeezed to make it sticky. I'm loosing my weigh too and my tingling or numbness has vanished too in just a month. May be u should give 1 more try, it is easy and natural.

[Haldin21 in reply to santoshi22]

Lucky you ... I mean it worked for you. I normally diced the okra and eat it as salad along with other salad veges. I haven't noticed any effect as yet, same as what Lakshmanan1954 also reported above. Eating it just diced or ingesting the ooze as a separate item or drinking it like tea after boiling okra as suggested by sandybrown - I can't see how this matters as they all end up in the digestive system, no? Can someone throw some light or provide insight on the different preparatory methodologies?

@Lakshmanan1954

@sandybrown

[sandybrown in reply to Lakshmanan1954]

Try cooking methi and having it with food, boil cinnamon stick an drinking water in the evening an morning.

Eat raw fenegrik seeds, put it in water and when it is soft take it with breakfast or lunch!

[talwaria]

santoshi if this is true it will be great

but u r 22 u can manage easily what abt over 50 plus